Dr Gloom 22151 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 DrGloom, I don't agree that Sven had better players than other managers.Rooney can be discounted since he was never on the pitch when England were eliminated under Sven. Owen was never the player he was pre-2002. Joe Cole and Steven Gerrard were world-class, while Beckham was being demanded off the pitch, while Sven was sticking by him. And Becks was very productive under Sven, assisting and scoring frequently. I think the current English group of players is better than the one Sven had at his disposal. And remember, Rooney can be discounted completely from Sven's time, since England were never eliminated with him on the pitch; 2004 (metatarsel dragged him off in quarter-final). 2006, Red carded in quarter-final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerbarton 24 Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 I'm not sure Sven has really been that successful since leaving England but I've always liked him and would have preferred him to Allardyce when he was appointed. We were very unlucky in all the tournaments with him at the helm and always qualified comfortably. Since his departure, we've consistently been a shambles except for a couple of good wins in the poor qualifying group for the World Cup with Capello. Certainly he had his failings, but overall he's one of the best England managers of all time by my reckoning. As for Capello - he seems like he's just seeing his time out now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 43069 Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 how many more managers are england gonna have before success is brought i think none cause those england players dont give a toss about the england shirt as long as they get paid 100s of thousands at there clubs 54. If I'm wrong I'll change my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 how many more managers are england gonna have before success is brought i think none cause those england players dont give a toss about the england shirt as long as they get paid 100s of thousands at there clubs 54. If I'm wrong I'll change my mind. 42 tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 43069 Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 how many more managers are england gonna have before success is brought i think none cause those england players dont give a toss about the england shirt as long as they get paid 100s of thousands at there clubs 54. If I'm wrong I'll change my mind. 42 tbh Show me a post where I said that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 how many more managers are england gonna have before success is brought i think none cause those england players dont give a toss about the england shirt as long as they get paid 100s of thousands at there clubs 54. If I'm wrong I'll change my mind. 42 tbh Show me a post where I said that Ford Prefect told me you said it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 43069 Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 how many more managers are england gonna have before success is brought i think none cause those england players dont give a toss about the england shirt as long as they get paid 100s of thousands at there clubs 54. If I'm wrong I'll change my mind. 42 tbh Show me a post where I said that Ford Prefect told me you said it. Sorry... what? I've dropped my Babel Fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Love that book btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3974 Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 2 of the yes votes have to be from Scottish posters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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