Tom 14011 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 I thought Hughton might work out, he didnt. When Hughton was sacked he was 11th. Pardew landed us 12th. Have a think Nanny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Christmas Tree 4725 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 I thought Hughton might work out, he didnt. When Hughton was sacked he was 11th. Pardew landed us 12th. Have a think Nanny. Doesnt make Hughton a good manager numpty....... And lets not forget we were an Alan Smith of 9th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 If taking a newly relegated team over, getting them up as champions (with ease), instilling the team with a great spirit and confidence, getting them into 11th place in the premier league and absolutely thrashing your biggest rivals along the way isn't a sign of a job well done then I don't know what is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 (edited) As others have pointed out I expressed Hughton should be given a go when others were adamant he shouldnt. I did caution about him being too nice possibly to succeed. After the good start to the promotion season, lots then agreed with me. However none of us at the time really new how much influence the senior players had put in and were putting in in the overall running of things. Again it became clear that he was merely a caretaker, a yes man and so his sacking in my eyes was not a great loss. I know I really shouldn't bother but there has been speculation, more than once and from many, that in fact he wasn't a yes man and it was because he said NO that he was escorted from the building. The notion that Pardew is aything but a yes man is hilarious. You think he has any say whatsoever on who comes and who goes CT? Do you not think it's the intended structure? Managers come and go, the squad is a higher level vision, to avoid expensive restructuring with every new man...like Chelsea. Funny that Just so happens I suggested the same thing yesterday in this very thread, here http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?...st&p=916265 :lol: Ahead of the curve again I guess Honestly a gift or a curse????? Here man, you're shite at this. That's the opposite of why you were glad Hughton was sacked. You said Hughton "was merely a caretaker, a yes man and so his sacking in my eyes was not a great loss" You're glad Pardew isn't a yes man, and your glad he is, cos it fits the structure you believe in, where the manager doesn't have full control, but you're glad Pardew is putting his stamp on the dressing room, which he isn't. You liked Hughton and wanted him to stay, but he had to go because he was a yes man, and it needed someone stronger...to fit a structure where the manager has no say. But he was sacked so they could sell Carroll without complaint from the manager. Edited June 6, 2011 by Happy Face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 FUCKING HELL I would like to think that they had someone lined up and it wasnt any of the names Stevies being mentioning. I feel sick to the stomach thinking whats going to come next. Suppose at some point there will be speculation about what was going on behind the scenes.Were players picking the team? Does Nolan have too much say? Had infighting broken out following Chris's weekend comments that it was him picking the team? Was this taken onto the pitch, hence the shitty display? Who shot cock robin? It would be nice to see the players grow some balls and come out and say what a wanker Ashley is.......Not holding breath though! Who put him on the spot, who took the shot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Christmas Tree 4725 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 More virtual reality from Happy Face Sometimes you should just admit when you are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Heading towards the gold section at this rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 They're called opinions Tom. You should try it one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Heading towards the gold section at this rate. Just waiting on a mary mary for house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 They're called opinions Tom. You should try it one day. In your opinion should the manager have final say over players in his dressing room? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 They're called opinions Tom. You should try it one day. In your opinion should the manager have final say over players in his dressing room? Is that his current opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 They're called opinions Tom. You should try it one day. They all directly contrast with your contemporary opinion. This is the issue. All of the quotes above are from the Hughton sacking thread - in which you express disgust and shock at Hughton's sacking. In which you cite player power as a problem whilst on the same day none the less you say the players should get together and abuse your friend Mike. In which you say you hope it isn't Pardew and that you feel sick at the prospect. etc etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 (edited) Heading towards the gold section at this rate. Just waiting on a mary mary for house. Oh, so you can read my posts in this thread? Edited June 6, 2011 by alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 you feel sick at the prospect. He's got Stockholm Syndrome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Deano 0 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Wouldnt go as far as saying the entertainers are back...we have shown similarities to that side in the sense of quite a few high scoring wins, topsy tervy draws and some good attacking football but we are a long way from being as settled a side and nowhere near as flabouyont or dominant as we were then. However, signs ARE good. We have a solid base and spine to the team and if we get that together and add quality in key areas (which sounds promising) we CAN build next season, become a little more dominant and flambouyant whilst learning to hold our nerve and see out games late on. Certainly looking good. ---Krul--- Simpson---S.Taylor---Coloccini---Enrique Barton---Cabaye---Tiote--Jonas ---Ben Arfa--- ---Ameobi--- Presuming we can keep hold of both Barton and Enrique who both are very influencial in how we play the game and add two quality strikers to the squad, one of which replacing Shola in the side, then we have a very solid team with an ever growing understanding of each other and plenty of goal scoring potential with a stealy and calm defensive spine to the team. Cover out wide and another RB would be crucial for us to get closer to being "the entertainers" again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33163 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Wouldnt go as far as saying the entertainers are back...we have shown similarities to that side in the sense of quite a few high scoring wins, topsy tervy draws and some good attacking football but we are a long way from being as settled a side and nowhere near as flabouyont or dominant as we were then. However, signs ARE good. We have a solid base and spine to the team and if we get that together and add quality in key areas (which sounds promising) we CAN build next season, become a little more dominant and flambouyant whilst learning to hold our nerve and see out games late on. Certainly looking good. ---Krul--- Simpson---S.Taylor---Coloccini---Enrique Barton---Cabaye---Tiote--Jonas ---Ben Arfa--- ---Ameobi--- Presuming we can keep hold of both Barton and Enrique who both are very influencial in how we play the game and add two quality strikers to the squad, one of which replacing Shola in the side, then we have a very solid team with an ever growing understanding of each other and plenty of goal scoring potential with a stealy and calm defensive spine to the team. Cover out wide and another RB would be crucial for us to get closer to being "the entertainers" again. Signs are to me it could go either way. We could lose proven performers and get even better in or, we could lose proven performers and get replacements in who are either not good enough or who may not adapt as well as Tiote did. Who will be our striker/s? Who will get goals from midfield? What will our options be like for full back cover? I need to be a bit more convinced to say things are looking good. Things might turn out well and I really hope this is the case but you're putting a lot of faith in the people running the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Agreed, NUFC are in a transitional period atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33163 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 (edited) We had the makings of a good side the year we finished eleventh when Bobby got in Bellamy and Robert.* Now I'm not saying two good signings would take us to the CL but we could certainly challenge for the the UEFA cup, equally the shit could hit the fan were we to lose Enrique, Tiote, Barton and Nolan, (On top of Carroll going). *On the flip side, we had the makings of a good side the year we finished eighth under McFaul but sold Gazza, Goddard etc and ended up 20th the year after. Edited June 6, 2011 by Howmanheyman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citizenerased 0 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 (edited) They're called opinions Tom. You should try it one day. They all directly contrast with your contemporary opinion. This is the issue. All of the quotes above are from the Hughton sacking thread - in which you express disgust and shock at Hughton's sacking. In which you cite player power as a problem whilst on the same day none the less you say the players should get together and abuse your friend Mike. In which you say you hope it isn't Pardew and that you feel sick at the prospect. etc etc... And now we enter the final phase of the Christmas Tree cycle of retardation in a thread. When the hammer blow is delivered, the thread is fled and is only returned too when a few pages have past and he can talk about other things. Edited June 6, 2011 by citizenerased Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Was mine the hammer blow? Get In. I shot Cock Robin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44848 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 They're called opinions Tom. You should try it one day. They all directly contrast with your contemporary opinion. This is the issue. All of the quotes above are from the Hughton sacking thread - in which you express disgust and shock at Hughton's sacking. In which you cite player power as a problem whilst on the same day none the less you say the players should get together and abuse your friend Mike. In which you say you hope it isn't Pardew and that you feel sick at the prospect. etc etc... Ww And now we enter the final phase of the Christmas Tree cycle of retardation in a thread. When the hammer blow is delivered, the thread is fled and is only returned too when a few pages have past and he can talk about other things. To be fair, his 6 year old is currently watching Scooby Doo and he needs to be around to predict that every character did it (outside of those travelling in the Mystery Machine). This will allow him to be right no matter who gets unmasked at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 To be fair, his 6 year old is currently watching Scooby Doo and he needs to be around to predict that every character did it (outside of those travelling in the Mystery Machine). This will allow him to be right no matter who gets unmasked at the end. Very Good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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