Neil Taylor Transfer Saga & Other Adventures...

[Billy Whitehurst 935]

I think I know how this Neil Taylor thing will pan out.

 

He'll desperately want to sign for Everton but we'll offer him £70k a week (so flippant are we currently with our wage bill) so he'll begrudgingly join us.

 

Either that or he'll sign for us to be a back-up left back and Ajax Andy will flounce off with his tail between his legs once again.

[ajax_andy 0]

I think I know how this Neil Taylor thing will pan out.

 

He'll desperately want to sign for Everton but we'll offer him £70k a week (so flippant are we currently with our wage bill) so he'll begrudgingly join us.

 

Either that or he'll sign for us to be a back-up left back and Ajax Andy will flounce off with his tail between his legs once again.

 

 

Aye that'll be it... might even be more than 70k according to my ITK

[McFaul 35]

I think I know how this Neil Taylor thing will pan out.

 

He'll desperately want to sign for Everton but we'll offer him £70k a week (so flippant are we currently with our wage bill) so he'll begrudgingly join us.

 

Either that or he'll sign for us to be a back-up left back and Ajax Andy will flounce off with his tail between his legs once again.

Quite correct only logical reason he would choose such minnows as us over a goliath of a club like Everton FC.

[ajax_andy 0]

I think I know how this Neil Taylor thing will pan out.

 

He'll desperately want to sign for Everton but we'll offer him £70k a week (so flippant are we currently with our wage bill) so he'll begrudgingly join us.

 

Either that or he'll sign for us to be a back-up left back and Ajax Andy will flounce off with his tail between his legs once again.

Quite correct only logical reason he would choose such minnows as us over a goliath of a club like Everton FC.

 

 

i really wish you'd seen things like this the other day, it would have saved a lot of arguing!

 

Oh well better late then never I suppose

[KeithJ 0]

On the Evra part, he is starting to get on a bit now. He turned 30 in May and Man Utd will no doubt be looking for the next player to fill in at left back.

[Guest alex]

On the Evra part, he is starting to get on a bit now. He turned 30 in May and Man Utd will no doubt be looking for the next player to fill in at left back.

I was making it up like but I could see them looking at a younger model.

[ajax_andy 0]

On the Evra part, he is starting to get on a bit now. He turned 30 in May and Man Utd will no doubt be looking for the next player to fill in at left back.

I was making it up like but I could see them looking at a younger model.

 

 

Age doesn't bother Fergie though when you think about it... Giggs & Scholes are testimant to that.

[Guest alex]

On the Evra part, he is starting to get on a bit now. He turned 30 in May and Man Utd will no doubt be looking for the next player to fill in at left back.

I was making it up like but I could see them looking at a younger model.

 

 

Age doesn't bother Fergie though when you think about it... Giggs & Scholes are testimant to that.

Scholes has retired.

[KeithJ 0]

On the Evra part, he is starting to get on a bit now. He turned 30 in May and Man Utd will no doubt be looking for the next player to fill in at left back.

I was making it up like but I could see them looking at a younger model.

 

 

Age doesn't bother Fergie though when you think about it... Giggs & Scholes are testimant to that.

 

He doesnt exactly use Schole or Giggs fully like he would do when they were younger. If you look at Giggs, he only made 25 appearances in the EPL last season. He likes to have some fresh players and blend them in gradually.

 

Nice thing to have as big club with quality in depth. The human body reaches muscular peak at 25-30 years of age and then it starts to decline. Obviously everyone is different but thats the general understanding.

[ajax_andy 0]

On the Evra part, he is starting to get on a bit now. He turned 30 in May and Man Utd will no doubt be looking for the next player to fill in at left back.

I was making it up like but I could see them looking at a younger model.

 

 

Age doesn't bother Fergie though when you think about it... Giggs & Scholes are testimant to that.

Scholes has retired.

 

Indeed he has, but he played until he was what? 35?

[ajax_andy 0]

On the Evra part, he is starting to get on a bit now. He turned 30 in May and Man Utd will no doubt be looking for the next player to fill in at left back.

I was making it up like but I could see them looking at a younger model.

 

 

Age doesn't bother Fergie though when you think about it... Giggs & Scholes are testimant to that.

 

He doesnt exactly use Schole or Giggs fully like he would do when they were younger. If you look at Giggs, he only made 25 appearances in the EPL last season. He likes to have some fresh players and blend them in gradually.

 

Nice thing to have as big club with quality in depth. The human body reaches muscular peak at 25-30 years of age and then it starts to decline. Obviously everyone is different but thats the general understanding.

 

Aye but they played until they were probably 33 on a regular basis (i.e. 1st choice in their position), which would give the 2 Brazilian lads a few years yet to establish themselves.

 

I really can't see Man U having any interest in Baines.

[Tom 14013]

My ITK tells me Everton has offered him £250k a week and that's why he wants to go there. He's never wrong.

[Guest alex]

On the Evra part, he is starting to get on a bit now. He turned 30 in May and Man Utd will no doubt be looking for the next player to fill in at left back.

I was making it up like but I could see them looking at a younger model.

 

 

Age doesn't bother Fergie though when you think about it... Giggs & Scholes are testimant to that.

Scholes has retired.

 

Indeed he has, but he played until he was what? 35?

I reckon his game was less reliant on pace than Evra's though.

[Guest alex]

I really can't see Man U having any interest in Baines.

Neither can I.

[ajax_andy 0]

My ITK tells me Everton has offered him £250k a week and that's why he wants to go there. He's never wrong.

 

 

If its Everton we're talking about I think the figure would usually be written more like this tbh - £2.50 a week

[Tom 14013]

I think Newcastle and Everton's relative outlay for wages is going to be very very close.

 

Everton are skint and Ashley is running a very tight ship.

[ajax_andy 0]

I think Newcastle and Everton's relative outlay for wages is going to be very very close.

 

Everton are skint and Ashley is running a very tight ship.

 

 

Yeah our wage limit is about £50k a week for a key 1st team player. Arteta is on £70k a week but that looks like it was a mistake after being crap for most of last season. The rest are on about £50k - £55k or less.

 

We too are looking to reduce costs though, and with Piennar off the books now, and Yak & Yobo looking likely to be shipped out we clearly can't afford to have so many players on such large contracts... I agree with that though tbh, but I can't understand Ashley's stance with some of your more established key players.

 

We seem to be shipping out the deadwood (bar piennar who wanted to leave), whereas Ashley's approach seems to be to get rid of key players and bring in relative unknowns. Seems a risky strategy to me?

[Tom 14013]

Yeah our wage limit is about £50k a week for a key 1st team player. Arteta is on £70k a week but that looks like it was a mistake after being crap for most of last season. The rest are on about £50k - £55k or less.

 

Pretty much the same here - although with exceptions. Collocini is on about £85k p/w and Barton and Smith are on £60k - Smith on his way out.

[ajax_andy 0]

Yeah our wage limit is about £50k a week for a key 1st team player. Arteta is on £70k a week but that looks like it was a mistake after being crap for most of last season. The rest are on about £50k - £55k or less.

 

Pretty much the same here - although with exceptions. Collocini is on about £85k p/w and Barton and Smith are on £60k - Smith on his way out.

 

 

Smith on £60k?

 

Looks like Collocini is going to be the next in line for the chop at £85k a week. Good player, but I'm not sure anyone is worth that much a week, unless they are an absolute superstar at a team with huge resources.

 

Barton is the player I think you need to keep the most, he's the kind of player that will pull the team up by its boot laces and make his team mates work hard... something I think you'll need if you keep bringing in foreign players, as they might take time to settle and adjust to the league (look at Malouda who took the best part of 3 years to settle).

[Tom 14013]

Yeh I reckon Smith must be the worst signing in our history tbh!

 

I agree that Barton will be very important to us next season - the board just need to give their heads a shake.

[Noelie 103]

All quiet on the Swansea front.

The talk of Naylor being close to signing for Newcastle seems to have ridden off into the sunset unless I'm missing something.

Are we still in pursuit of him of him or has the pursuing posse being held up?

[McFaul 35]

I think Newcastle and Everton's relative outlay for wages is going to be very very close.

 

Everton are skint and Ashley is running a very tight ship.

 

 

Yeah our wage limit is about £50k a week for a key 1st team player. Arteta is on £70k a week but that looks like it was a mistake after being crap for most of last season. The rest are on about £50k - £55k or less.

 

We too are looking to reduce costs though, and with Piennar off the books now, and Yak & Yobo looking likely to be shipped out we clearly can't afford to have so many players on such large contracts... I agree with that though tbh, but I can't understand Ashley's stance with some of your more established key players.

 

We seem to be shipping out the deadwood (bar piennar who wanted to leave), whereas Ashley's approach seems to be to get rid of key players and bring in relative unknowns. Seems a risky strategy to me?

So your best player is on £20,000 a week more than our best player, who would be your best player if he played for you. No one signed in the last 3 years at Newcastle is on more than 50k a week, I'd be astonished if Ba's basic is more than 40k for instance. Our wage bill will be less than yours without a doubt, yet our turnover this year will easily be £20m more there's the difference.

 

Our last reported wage bill was £50m, Nolan has left since, and Smith on the way, which probably covers the three new buys plus another possibly. You last reported wage bill is £54.3m. So despite having a significantly smaller income, infrastructure and everything else that goes with it, you are stretching yourself wage wise more than we are, and clearly pay the extra dollar to get players in to the club, which highlights the irony of your massive histrionics regarding the Ba salary the other day. Argument over - no come back.

[ajax_andy 0]

I think Newcastle and Everton's relative outlay for wages is going to be very very close.

 

Everton are skint and Ashley is running a very tight ship.

 

 

Yeah our wage limit is about £50k a week for a key 1st team player. Arteta is on £70k a week but that looks like it was a mistake after being crap for most of last season. The rest are on about £50k - £55k or less.

 

We too are looking to reduce costs though, and with Piennar off the books now, and Yak & Yobo looking likely to be shipped out we clearly can't afford to have so many players on such large contracts... I agree with that though tbh, but I can't understand Ashley's stance with some of your more established key players.

 

We seem to be shipping out the deadwood (bar piennar who wanted to leave), whereas Ashley's approach seems to be to get rid of key players and bring in relative unknowns. Seems a risky strategy to me?

So your best player is on £20,000 a week more than our best player, who would be your best player if he played for you. No one signed in the last 3 years at Newcastle is on more than 50k a week, I'd be astonished if Ba's basic is more than 40k for instance. Our wage bill will be less than yours without a doubt, yet our turnover this year will easily be £20m more there's the difference.

 

Our last reported wage bill was £50m, Nolan has left since, and Smith on the way, which probably covers the three new buys plus another possibly. You last reported wage bill is £54.3m. So despite having a significantly smaller income, infrastructure and everything else that goes with it, you are stretching yourself wage wise more than we are, and clearly pay the extra dollar to get players in to the club, which highlights the irony of your massive histrionics regarding the Ba salary the other day. Argument over - no come back.

 

Are u still banging on about this? I thought we'd moved on... That must be a tasty bone eh? Grrr!

 

I'll indulge you one last time though just for shits n giggles.

 

If you knew what you were talking about you'd realise that the players on large contracts are ones that have been at the club for many years I.e Arteta, Cahill, Baines, Jagielka, Howard, Neville etc, and have been rewarded for their loyalty and dedication to the club. It's how you build a good team that constantly finishes in the top 6 or 7 of the league.

 

We don't pay big wages to new signings, but dont let that get in your way of a good rant eh?!

Edited June 21, 2011 by ajax_andy

[Tom 14013]

We don't pay big wages to new signings, but dont let that get in your way of a good rant eh?!

 

Neither do we anymore.

[ChezGiven 0]

I think Newcastle and Everton's relative outlay for wages is going to be very very close.

 

Everton are skint and Ashley is running a very tight ship.

 

 

Yeah our wage limit is about £50k a week for a key 1st team player. Arteta is on £70k a week but that looks like it was a mistake after being crap for most of last season. The rest are on about £50k - £55k or less.

 

We too are looking to reduce costs though, and with Piennar off the books now, and Yak & Yobo looking likely to be shipped out we clearly can't afford to have so many players on such large contracts... I agree with that though tbh, but I can't understand Ashley's stance with some of your more established key players.

 

We seem to be shipping out the deadwood (bar piennar who wanted to leave), whereas Ashley's approach seems to be to get rid of key players and bring in relative unknowns. Seems a risky strategy to me?

So your best player is on £20,000 a week more than our best player, who would be your best player if he played for you. No one signed in the last 3 years at Newcastle is on more than 50k a week, I'd be astonished if Ba's basic is more than 40k for instance. Our wage bill will be less than yours without a doubt, yet our turnover this year will easily be £20m more there's the difference.

 

Our last reported wage bill was £50m, Nolan has left since, and Smith on the way, which probably covers the three new buys plus another possibly. You last reported wage bill is £54.3m. So despite having a significantly smaller income, infrastructure and everything else that goes with it, you are stretching yourself wage wise more than we are, and clearly pay the extra dollar to get players in to the club, which highlights the irony of your massive histrionics regarding the Ba salary the other day. Argument over - no come back.

Nicely put.