Matt 0 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Watched this tonight- wasn't sure what to expect as a documentary- absolutely fascinating, using never-aired archive FIA footage. The tussles with Prost, coping with being a demi-god in his own country, the ill-fated move to Williams and the circumstances leading up to his death and the impact it has on the whole of Brazil. Definitely one to see on the big screen. http://www.sennamovie.co.uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4729 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Watched this tonight- wasn't sure what to expect as a documentary- absolutely fascinating, using never-aired archive FIA footage. The tussles with Prost, coping with being a demi-god in his own country, the ill-fated move to Williams and the circumstances leading up to his death and the impact it has on the whole of Brazil. Definitely one to see on the big screen. http://www.sennamovie.co.uk/ Got a very good review off the good doctor who cant stand F1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Off to see it next week when it goes on general release. Having admired Senna through most of his F1 career and felt a true sense of loss when he died, I'm not too sure how I'll digest it. I've seen the trailer and seen footage in there that people are claiming to be 'never before seen' but if they're making reference to the drivers briefing at Japan in 1990, it was in the end of season review video that year! For anyone who was a fan of the sport back then, you couldn't help but feel the sense of loss after he died. He brought something to the sport that had never been seen before or since and I doubt we'll ever truly have someone to match him. At the time I wasn't a fan as I followed Mansell but even so you couldn't help but admire his determination, his focused attitude and more so his absolute brilliance behind the wheel. And you couldn't help but feel the sport was robbed of several years of talent that he still had to offer. The bloke was a genius and still in my mind the best 'racing driver' the world has ever seen. That's in quotes because, whilst Schumacher may have better stats, I still attribute some of his success to negotiation rather than driving. Putting it into context what happened at Imola in 1994 would be on a level with Messi dropping dead on a football pitch in 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Putting it into context what happened at Imola in 1994 would be on a level with Messi dropping dead on a football pitch in 2011. Good analogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10876 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Putting it into context what happened at Imola in 1994 would be on a level with Messi dying while trying to take a corner in 2011. Shirley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Just reading about the accident and the other drivers, one who died and one who was seriously injured, in the days leading up to it. A few fans were injured in an accident too with a tyre flying into the crowd. Nasty stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Putting it into context what happened at Imola in 1994 would be on a level with Messi dying while trying to take a corner in 2011. Shirley? Aye... cue the age old joke of what's the difference between Senna and CTB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Just reading about the accident and the other drivers, one who died and one who was seriously injured, in the days leading up to it. A few fans were injured in an accident too with a tyre flying into the crowd. Nasty stuff. Was an altogther weird weekend. In fact it was a seriously fucked up season. The driver seriously injured was Barrichello who is still racing today. 2 weeks later Karl Wendlinger was seriously injured at Monaco and spent months in a coma. Other drivers broke bones during the season too - Montermini notably at Spain. When you consider motorsport is inherently dangerous it's no surprise that events like this do occur but that 24 hours aside, there hasn't been a death in the sport for 25 years and it's almost 30 since a driver had died on a race weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Just reading about the accident and the other drivers, one who died and one who was seriously injured, in the days leading up to it. A few fans were injured in an accident too with a tyre flying into the crowd. Nasty stuff. Was an altogther weird weekend. In fact it was a seriously fucked up season. The driver seriously injured was Barrichello who is still racing today. 2 weeks later Karl Wendlinger was seriously injured at Monaco and spent months in a coma. Other drivers broke bones during the season too - Montermini notably at Spain. When you consider motorsport is inherently dangerous it's no surprise that events like this do occur but that 24 hours aside, there hasn't been a death in the sport for 25 years and it's almost 30 since a driver had died on a race weekend. Is that because they employed more safety measures after Senna copped it? Just watched a video on him from Top Gear on youtube, seemed like he had some sociopathic qualities, like when he crashed Proust off the course to win the WC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonraider 0 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Yeah I've been watching clips of the Movie for a couple months now trying to toughen myself up a bit, as I'm not too sure about going to see the film because Senna was my absolute hero and I still cannot get over the fact he's gone I'm afraid I'll make a complete tit of myself crying in the cinema. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Safety did tighten up in the wake of his death. A plank was mandatory on the base of the car to avoid them being completely flat and thus reducing the risk of massive downforce loss (which was the primary reason for his crash). Cockpit sides were raised - although IMO that was more as a result of Wendlinger's accident than Senna's. HANS devices were introduced in an attempt to protect the drivers Wheel tethers introduced to stop wheels flying off in high speed accidents - more as a result of the accident at Monza in 2000 when a marshall was killed though. Senna's belief in himself is what set him apart IMO. If nothing else, read up about his qualifying laps at Monaco in 1988 when he claims he was driving the car subconciously and scared himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Yeah I've been watching clips of the Movie for a couple months now trying to toughen myself up a bit, as I'm not too sure about going to see the film because Senna was my absolute hero and I still cannot get over the fact he's gone I'm afraid I'll make a complete tit of myself crying in the cinema. I doubt very much you'll be the only one in your cinema with tears in your eyes Bev. Like I said when he was alive he was never my favourite - a bit like Alonso these days but on a much larger scale. The guy was an absolute genius behind the wheel. Never more so than the 1993 season when he got 5 wins out of a car that was effectively the equivalent of today's Renault against a Williams that was more dominant than the 2011 Red Bull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10876 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 don't thikn I got enough credit for the corner joke... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 don't thikn I got enough credit for the corner joke... You want credit for a 17 year old joke? Getting as bad as Berb, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonraider 0 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Yeah I've been watching clips of the Movie for a couple months now trying to toughen myself up a bit, as I'm not too sure about going to see the film because Senna was my absolute hero and I still cannot get over the fact he's gone I'm afraid I'll make a complete tit of myself crying in the cinema. I doubt very much you'll be the only one in your cinema with tears in your eyes Bev. Like I said when he was alive he was never my favourite - a bit like Alonso these days but on a much larger scale. The guy was an absolute genius behind the wheel. Never more so than the 1993 season when he got 5 wins out of a car that was effectively the equivalent of today's Renault against a Williams that was more dominant than the 2011 Red Bull. Definitely Craig, one of his best seasons imo and its often forgotten too. He was always my favourite driver. I have lots of F1 memorabilia, loads of Williams stuff, most of it signed by various drivers and test drivers, fireproof gear my son wears racing to this day and even parts off Damon Hill's Arrows....(another team I loved) But my most treasured piece is a painting of Senna with his McLAREN. Yes IF I go to see the Movie I will have to take a packet of tissues for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Have you been to the F1 museum at Donnington Bev? Loads of stuff but poingnantly from Senna's perspective is the Toleman he raced at Monaco in 1984 (and almost won) and also the McLaren he raced at Australia in 1993 (his final race victory). Sense of awe when I was up close with both cars knowing it was him who'd driven them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonraider 0 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Have you been to the F1 museum at Donnington Bev? Loads of stuff but poingnantly from Senna's perspective is the Toleman he raced at Monaco in 1984 (and almost won) and also the McLaren he raced at Australia in 1993 (his final race victory). Sense of awe when I was up close with both cars knowing it was him who'd driven them. Yes I have Craig, I know exactly how you felt. Did you ever see the video of Lewis and Jenson viewing Senna's MP4-4? I loved that, it shows clearly how Lewis feels about his team and his hero Senna. When he sat in the car it meant so much to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonraider 0 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 And when he actually got to drive it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Yep I'd seen both clips before. The first was somewhat staged IMO - they knew the cameras were there and played up to them. The thing that gets me in the second clip is Lewis' helmet. Seeing the MP4/4 driven at anger by a man with a predominately yellow helmet sends a chill down your spine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonraider 0 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Yep I'd seen both clips before. The first was somewhat staged IMO - they knew the cameras were there and played up to them. The thing that gets me in the second clip is Lewis' helmet. Seeing the MP4/4 driven at anger by a man with a predominately yellow helmet sends a chill down your spine. Yeah, likewise when you see Bruno's eyes looking out of his helmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Saw some footage from inside his car as he raced on that TG tribute to him also, it was absolutely terrifying, the speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonraider 0 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 I could watch his qualifying lap at Monaco for ever! Completely at one with the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Besty 4 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Just watched this, didn't know much beforehand but feeling pretty sad now, probably not good to watch before bed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I've still got it to watch actually. Might try and get round to it this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44995 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 It's class. And I hate F1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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