the next striker.......

[Park Life 71]

All of this leg work on the continent when Dean Sturridge will be on his bike for a bigger, more expensive name, who'll be half as good. He'd do me for a start.

[Papa Lazaru 0]

Whats the source for those quotes CT?

 

I've definitely read that interview a while ago, which was a good bit longer than those quotes, and it was either the sunday sun or the chronicle that talked to him about his past as a player, his lvoe of the toon and the like, and he does come acorss as a scout who knows what he's doing and backed by the club would get us soem top notch players.

[trophyshy 7084]

"We've got Graham Carr, We've got Graham Carr,

when it comes to unearthing European players for moderate fees he's the best by far"

 

Granted, it needs a bit of work.

 

don't be hard on yersel, it's spot on man!

 

[Christmas Tree 4858]

I think we will end up with a foreign striker who will turn out to be sensational (Graham Carr).

 

A bit like when Liverpool replaced Rush with Aldridge, we will laugh our little fat chops off next season as Carroll fails and warms the bench while striker Tiote 2 takes the premiership by storm.

 

Why is Graham Carr getting lots of props atm?

 

 

But seriously......

 

 

“When I was at Tottenham I worked under David Pleat and he was full of good football knowledge and little sayings. I remember him saying to me ‘Never waste a flight,’ and that has stuck with me.”

 

“So I go to a country and I’ll watch two or three games if I can. Last weekend I was in Lille, this weekend I’m going over to Germany to watch two games. You have to put that leg work in and get out to games – being passed a DVD of someone just isn’t the same.”

 

“And 90% of the players that agents pitch to you just aren’t up to it.” “So my passport is pretty well thumbed, but I love my job. My dad played for Newcastle United and I’ve always wanted to be here – now I am I’m desperate to help bring some success back to the club because it deserves it.”

 

“We are looking at a lot of players. We have teams of players that we’re looking at lined up in 4-4-2 formations because we want to have someone in every position,” “I think we need half a dozen players in summer, to be honest.”

 

“That is a personal opinion, mind, but that is what I’m working towards – having options to put before the manager when the season is over.” “And we won’t just watch a player once. With someone like Cheick, it was the result of four years watching him.”

 

“I’d first seen him playing for Roda against Arsenal in 2006 – they were hammered 4-0 I think, but you could tell he was going to be a good player. He never stopped running.” “So you keep an eye on him and track his progress, which is where we are with plenty of other players.”

 

“People will all look at Arsene Wenger and say he’s got the French market covered, but we’ve got a good handle on it, believe me. The same is true of other countries too.” “You know you’re not on your own – you know there is competition out there from other English clubs and you have to be realistic – you can’t keep everything you’re doing off the radar.

 

“A player that I was watching last weekend we’ve been watching for months, yet suddenly there were six scouts there from English clubs, all probably watching the same player.” “The key is to react quickly – that is what will get us our targets. That and the fact that Newcastle United is a big, big draw overseas.”

 

The guys working his nuts off so we'll see what happens in the summer. Not to say the powers that be will automatically take his recommendations, however if he did introduce Tiote to the board (I know KK gets a few mentions for that on here), then Im sure Ashley will fully back the man.

Are we the first club to have a 'trophy scout' then CT? You should pen a few chants for him, should be easy for you with your marketing background.

 

He's here, He's there, he's searching everywhere....Graham Carr, Graham Carr........

 

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

Whose that sitting in the back row.

Whose that scribbling things doon.

Well his name is Graham Carr

He's the greatest scout by far

He's the man that brought Tiote to the Toon!

 

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

 

And now the end is near

And so I face the final curtain

My friend I'll say it clear

I'll state my case of which I'm certain

 

I've lived a life that's full

I traveled each and every highway

And more, much more than this

I signed Tiote!

[Christmas Tree 4858]

Whats the source for those quotes CT?

 

Sunday Sun interview.

[Guest alex]

If Carr was that good, would he working for us? Probably not in all honesty. It's not like he hasn't been around for years doing this type of work. He's got good contacts on the continent etc. but he's not a miracle worker. I bet the bloke in this thread more or less saying he is one didn't know who the fuck Graham Carr was 12 months ago either.

[Christmas Tree 4858]

If Carr was that good, would he working for us? Probably not in all honesty. It's not like he hasn't been around for years doing this type of work. He's got good contacts on the continent etc. but he's not a miracle worker. I bet the bloke in this thread more or less saying he is one didn't know who the fuck Graham Carr was 12 months ago either.

 

Dear me you're getting back to your old school girl best

[The Fish 10977]

If Carr was that good, would he working for us? Probably not in all honesty. It's not like he hasn't been around for years doing this type of work. He's got good contacts on the continent etc. but he's not a miracle worker. I bet the bloke in this thread more or less saying he is one didn't know who the fuck Graham Carr was 12 months ago either.

 

Dear me you're getting back to your old school girl best

Is he right though?

[StoneColdStephenIreland 74]

If Carr was that good, would he working for us? Probably not in all honesty. It's not like he hasn't been around for years doing this type of work. He's got good contacts on the continent etc. but he's not a miracle worker. I bet the bloke in this thread more or less saying he is one didn't know who the fuck Graham Carr was 12 months ago either.

 

Exactly

[Guest alex]

If Carr was that good, would he working for us? Probably not in all honesty. It's not like he hasn't been around for years doing this type of work. He's got good contacts on the continent etc. but he's not a miracle worker. I bet the bloke in this thread more or less saying he is one didn't know who the fuck Graham Carr was 12 months ago either.

 

Dear me you're getting back to your old school girl best

CT, have a look in the Hughton sacked thread. I said then that Carr had scouted Ben Arfa and Tiote and from your comments in that thread it suggests you didn't even know who the bloke was at the time (back in December) even though he was already chief scout here. Linky Now you're making out he can walk on water or something.

Edited May 18, 2011 by alex

[Christmas Tree 4858]

If Carr was that good, would he working for us? Probably not in all honesty. It's not like he hasn't been around for years doing this type of work. He's got good contacts on the continent etc. but he's not a miracle worker. I bet the bloke in this thread more or less saying he is one didn't know who the fuck Graham Carr was 12 months ago either.

 

Dear me you're getting back to your old school girl best

CT, have a look in the Hughton sacked thread. I said then that Carr had scouted Ben Arfa and Tiote and from your comments in that thread it suggests you didn't even know who the bloke was at the time (back in December) even though he was already chief scout here. Linky Now you're making out he can walk on water or something.

 

 

First of all, when anybody "heard" of GC is irelivent. Yes he's a relative of yours so you knew him first. Have a star!.....I dont see anyone arguing with that...

 

Miracle worker Where did I say that? I think I said the guys being working his nuts off (according to interviews) and "we'll see what happens in the summer". Or maybe your referring to my jokey remark that he'll find us a sensational foreign striker in the summer, Tiote 2

 

The main point here is your childish reference which in all honesty seems a tad tardy.

 

You have once again turned what was a jokey thread half an hour before you turned up into something petty.

 

Another result for Captain Nasty.

[The Fish 10977]

If Carr was that good, would he working for us? Probably not in all honesty. It's not like he hasn't been around for years doing this type of work. He's got good contacts on the continent etc. but he's not a miracle worker. I bet the bloke in this thread more or less saying he is one didn't know who the fuck Graham Carr was 12 months ago either.

 

Dear me you're getting back to your old school girl best

CT, have a look in the Hughton sacked thread. I said then that Carr had scouted Ben Arfa and Tiote and from your comments in that thread it suggests you didn't even know who the bloke was at the time (back in December) even though he was already chief scout here. Linky Now you're making out he can walk on water or something.

 

 

First of all, when anybody "heard" of GC is irelivent. Yes he's a relative of yours so you knew him first. Have a star!.....I dont see anyone arguing with that...

 

Miracle worker Where did I say that? I think I said the guys being working his nuts off (according to interviews) and "we'll see what happens in the summer". Or maybe your referring to my jokey remark that he'll find us a sensational foreign striker in the summer, Tiote 2

 

The main point here is your childish reference which in all honesty seems a tad tardy.

 

You have once again turned what was a jokey thread half an hour before you turned up into something petty.

 

Another result for Captain Nasty.

You're right, it's not about when someone has heard about Graham Carr, it's about you being completely in the dark about our scouting system, but when you're spoon-fed the information you declare it long and loud as if it's you're own insight. You're like a 15 yr old kid copying out a love song for a girl you fancy because you haven't the intelligence or creativity to come up with something yourself. I swear you've yet to have an informed opinion about something that you haven't lifted straight from the pages of the Chronicle or wherever. You've nothing original to say.

 

I may be wrong, but alex wasn't saying "I knew it first", I reckon he was saying, how come you'd never heard of the guy 12 months ago, and yet now you're pinning the success of all our future signings on his chest, as if you're assured that he's got what it takes. Despite knowing precisely fuck all about him other than that which you've been shovelled.

 

The main point, CT, is that you're a know-nowt gobshite who delights in being contrary, who thinks they're being amusing when really it's just annoying and who has literally never had an original opinion of his own.

[Guest alex]

First of all, when anybody "heard" of GC is irelivent.

It's relevant in that you don't know much about him. You have high expectations for him but I bet you couldn't name many finds of his.

 

Yes he's a relative of yours so you knew him first. Have a star!.....I dont see anyone arguing with that...

That really is irrelevant.

 

Miracle worker Where did I say that? I think I said the guys being working his nuts off (according to interviews) and "we'll see what happens in the summer". Or maybe your referring to my jokey remark that he'll find us a sensational foreign striker in the summer, Tiote 2

I don't take any of your points about football seriously CT. I do find it amusing when I call your bluff though. Like I did when you made up that crack last night about having a season ticket years ago.

The main point here is your childish reference which in all honesty seems a tad tardy.

I don't see how referring to you as a bloke is childish like. Tardy means late or sluggish btw. You should really look up these words before you try to be clever when using them.

[Christmas Tree 4858]

If Carr was that good, would he working for us? Probably not in all honesty. It's not like he hasn't been around for years doing this type of work. He's got good contacts on the continent etc. but he's not a miracle worker. I bet the bloke in this thread more or less saying he is one didn't know who the fuck Graham Carr was 12 months ago either.

 

Dear me you're getting back to your old school girl best

CT, have a look in the Hughton sacked thread. I said then that Carr had scouted Ben Arfa and Tiote and from your comments in that thread it suggests you didn't even know who the bloke was at the time (back in December) even though he was already chief scout here. Linky Now you're making out he can walk on water or something.

 

 

First of all, when anybody "heard" of GC is irelivent. Yes he's a relative of yours so you knew him first. Have a star!.....I dont see anyone arguing with that...

 

Miracle worker Where did I say that? I think I said the guys being working his nuts off (according to interviews) and "we'll see what happens in the summer". Or maybe your referring to my jokey remark that he'll find us a sensational foreign striker in the summer, Tiote 2

 

The main point here is your childish reference which in all honesty seems a tad tardy.

 

You have once again turned what was a jokey thread half an hour before you turned up into something petty.

 

Another result for Captain Nasty.

You're right, it's not about when someone has heard about Graham Carr, it's about you being completely in the dark about our scouting system, but when you're spoon-fed the information you declare it long and loud as if it's you're own insight. You're like a 15 yr old kid copying out a love song for a girl you fancy because you haven't the intelligence or creativity to come up with something yourself. I swear you've yet to have an informed opinion about something that you haven't lifted straight from the pages of the Chronicle or wherever. You've nothing original to say.

 

I may be wrong, but alex wasn't saying "I knew it first", I reckon he was saying, how come you'd never heard of the guy 12 months ago, and yet now you're pinning the success of all our future signings on his chest, as if you're assured that he's got what it takes. Despite knowing precisely fuck all about him other than that which you've been shovelled.

 

The main point, CT, is that you're a know-nowt gobshite who delights in being contrary, who thinks they're being amusing when really it's just annoying and who has literally never had an original opinion of his own.

 

The problem with you Fish (and to be honest, the reason why I usually ignore you), is that you rarely have anything football related to say and spend most of your time hanging out of Alex's arse and bitching.

 

You accuse me of being spoon fed, however had you or your puppet master done a quick search, you would have seen that I have been talking about, reading and posting articles about Graham Carr since March 2010.

 

Over a year ago by any stretch of the imagination.

 

Heres one of them. http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?...&pid=726587

 

In case you cant be arsed to click, I say in March 2010 "I'll be happy with some clever signings from Carr in the summer"......What do you know....Tiote, yup......Ben Arfa, Yup.

 

Its quite clear to any, barring the clique, which one of us is a know nowt gob shite. :D :D :D

[Christmas Tree 4858]

First of all, when anybody "heard" of GC is irelivent.

It's relevant in that you don't know much about him. You have high expectations for him but I bet you couldn't name many finds of his.

 

Yes he's a relative of yours so you knew him first. Have a star!.....I dont see anyone arguing with that...

That really is irrelevant.

 

Miracle worker Where did I say that? I think I said the guys being working his nuts off (according to interviews) and "we'll see what happens in the summer". Or maybe your referring to my jokey remark that he'll find us a sensational foreign striker in the summer, Tiote 2

I don't take any of your points about football seriously CT. I do find it amusing when I call your bluff though. Like I did when you made up that crack last night about having a season ticket years ago.

The main point here is your childish reference which in all honesty seems a tad tardy.

I don't see how referring to you as a bloke is childish like. Tardy means late or sluggish btw. You should really look up these words before you try to be clever when using them.

 

 

Marvellous stuff. Lets recap

 

I was talking about him over a year ago.

Cant name many of his finds....Will Tiote and Ben Arfa do

Having brought us those two last summer, should my expectations of his abilities be high or low.

We agree I didnt say he was a miracle worker.

You've been trying to call my bluff and failing miserably for three years. (Happy to stand corrected if you could stick some facts up where you have).

 

I can only assume you have been on the drink tonight, hence you childish nonsense and glaring oversight as to when I was talking about Graham Carr. Not only do you look silly, you have dragged your pet poodle into the shit with you.

 

Big oh dear

Edited May 19, 2011 by Christmas Tree

[OTF 7576]

The problem with you Fish (and to be honest, the reason why I usually ignore you), is that you rarely have anything football related to say and spend most of your time hanging out of Alex's arse and bitching.

 

You accuse me of being spoon fed, however had you or your puppet master done a quick search, you would have seen that I have been talking about, reading and posting articles about Graham Carr since March 2010.

 

Over a year ago by any stretch of the imagination.

 

Heres one of them. http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?...&pid=726587

 

In case you cant be arsed to click, I say in March 2010 "I'll be happy with some clever signings from Carr in the summer"......What do you know....Tiote, yup......Ben Arfa, Yup.

 

Its quite clear to any, barring the clique, which one of us is a know nowt gob shite. :D

 

Someone's getting a bit too big for their britches.

 

The point was that you don't ever have an opinion of your own. It's always based off the media articles that you seem to take as gospel. You clearly don't have any idea about football, which in itself isn't a problem, but quickly becomes one when you attempt to masquerade as though you do. In the end it quickly comes crumbling down around you and everyone gets a quick laugh. The more it happens though the less likely people are to take anything you say seriously and that's precisely why you're routinely met with ridicule that unfortunately for you is just about always befitting.

[The Fish 10977]

The problem with you Fish (and to be honest, the reason why I usually ignore you), is that you rarely have anything football related to say and spend most of your time hanging out of Alex's arse and bitching.

 

You accuse me of being spoon fed, however had you or your puppet master done a quick search, you would have seen that I have been talking about, reading and posting articles about Graham Carr since March 2010.

 

Over a year ago by any stretch of the imagination.

 

Heres one of them. http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?...&pid=726587

 

In case you cant be arsed to click, I say in March 2010 "I'll be happy with some clever signings from Carr in the summer"......What do you know....Tiote, yup......Ben Arfa, Yup.

 

Its quite clear to any, barring the clique, which one of us is a know nowt gob shite. :D

 

Couple of things;

 

you don't ignore me, you froth at the slit if anybody replies to your banalities, especially someone who disagrees with you.

The point (yet again) is not that you've posted things about Carr, it's that you post other people's articles as if they're your insight, as if you have an original thought.

You are right, in one respect, I don't post a lot in the football side of things because

a) I agree with a lot of what's posted and I find streams of "I agree" to be tedious

I don't know as much about the financial side of football as, say, Matt or Chez

c) I've not got the encyclopaedic memory of games and players from decades ago that, say, Leazes or Craig does

d) I don't go to enough games to really put my two-penneth with regards to matches that aren't on tv AND I'm fully aware how the tv never shows the whole story anyway. So lads who go to many games won't have me telling them that they're wrong because I watched the game from my sofa and thought Mike Williamson was awesome.

 

I have no problem contributing to "Who should we sign" and "what is do we think about this football story" or "that game". I'm in a position to do that. To be honest I tend to stay quiet unless I see someone making a tit of themselves. It just so happens that you do, and you do it often.

 

You live close enough to attend every home game, you earn sufficient that you could afford to go, you work in a career that should afford you plenty of time to hear a myriad of opinions from which you could grow your own... and yet to trumpet the party line, you post articles by journalists as if they're both fact and t(more galling) an opinion you've always held. Fucks sake, in the article you mention in the link above you're saying it's nice to see a good bloke like Hughton in charge, yet the moment he was sacked you leapt straight in to say how clever the hierarchy was to get rid of him in time.

 

You're full of shit CT, like every other cabbie ever. You're a cliché and it's infuriating that I allow it to bother me.

[OTF 7576]

I don't go to enough games to really put my two-penneth with regards to matches that aren't on tv AND I'm fully aware how the tv never shows the whole story anyway. So lads who go to many games won't have me telling them that they're wrong because I watched the game from my sofa and thought Mike Williamson was awesome.

 

You definitely get a different perspective from watching a match live that can often paint a more complete picture of events, but by the same token there's some aspects of the game that are much better viewed on TV with the ability to more closely view, analyse and replay key incidents. You're at the will of the producers of the show though as to what they do and don't scrutinise.

 

Whatever the case I'll continue to add my 2 cents from my couch/bean bag

[sniffer 0]

The problem with you Fish (and to be honest, the reason why I usually ignore you), is that you rarely have anything football related to say and spend most of your time hanging out of Alex's arse and bitching.

 

You accuse me of being spoon fed, however had you or your puppet master done a quick search, you would have seen that I have been talking about, reading and posting articles about Graham Carr since March 2010.

 

Over a year ago by any stretch of the imagination.

 

Heres one of them. http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?...&pid=726587

 

In case you cant be arsed to click, I say in March 2010 "I'll be happy with some clever signings from Carr in the summer"......What do you know....Tiote, yup......Ben Arfa, Yup.

 

Its quite clear to any, barring the clique, which one of us is a know nowt gob shite. :D

 

Couple of things;

 

you don't ignore me, you froth at the slit if anybody replies to your banalities, especially someone who disagrees with you.

The point (yet again) is not that you've posted things about Carr, it's that you post other people's articles as if they're your insight, as if you have an original thought.

You are right, in one respect, I don't post a lot in the football side of things because

a) I agree with a lot of what's posted and I find streams of "I agree" to be tedious

I don't know as much about the financial side of football as, say, Matt or Chez

c) I've not got the encyclopaedic memory of games and players from decades ago that, say, Leazes or Craig does

d) I don't go to enough games to really put my two-penneth with regards to matches that aren't on tv AND I'm fully aware how the tv never shows the whole story anyway. So lads who go to many games won't have me telling them that they're wrong because I watched the game from my sofa and thought Mike Williamson was awesome.

 

I have no problem contributing to "Who should we sign" and "what is do we think about this football story" or "that game". I'm in a position to do that. To be honest I tend to stay quiet unless I see someone making a tit of themselves. It just so happens that you do, and you do it often.

 

You live close enough to attend every home game, you earn sufficient that you could afford to go, you work in a career that should afford you plenty of time to hear a myriad of opinions from which you could grow your own... and yet to trumpet the party line, you post articles by journalists as if they're both fact and t(more galling) an opinion you've always held. Fucks sake, in the article you mention in the link above you're saying it's nice to see a good bloke like Hughton in charge, yet the moment he was sacked you leapt straight in to say how clever the hierarchy was to get rid of him in time.

 

You're full of shit CT, like every other cabbie ever. You're a cliché and it's infuriating that I allow it to bother me.

 

Doesn't infuriate me. I quite like the fact you can't get your knickers untwisted.

[Guest alex]

Marvellous stuff. Lets recap

 

I was talking about him over a year ago.

Cant name many of his finds....Will Tiote and Ben Arfa do

Having brought us those two last summer, should my expectations of his abilities be high or low.

We agree I didnt say he was a miracle worker.

You've been trying to call my bluff and failing miserably for three years. (Happy to stand corrected if you could stick some facts up where you have).

 

I can only assume you have been on the drink tonight, hence you childish nonsense and glaring oversight as to when I was talking about Graham Carr. Not only do you look silly, you have dragged your pet poodle into the shit with you.

 

Big oh dear

Ok, so it was a bit more than 12 months, i.e. still after the club had announced to the world he was our new chief scout. And the signings you've heard of are the ones that NUFC has repeatedly said (post-Hughton) were down to Carr. I'm struggling to see how that demonstrates a knowledge of the man and his works beyond the platitudes dished out by the club's mouthpieces at Thompson House.

Anyway, my main point was about guarding against having unrealistic expectations about what Carr can achieve (especially given the inevitable restraints that'll be placed upon him this summer). And correct me if I'm wrong but this thread isn't the first time you've mentioned signing a 'Tiote to play upfront' or words to that effect.

Edited May 19, 2011 by alex

[sniffer 0]

I was under the impression that Tiote was recommended to us by Steve McClaren, so if anybody deserves a finders fee its him.

 

If true, then Tiote is hardly a scouting success.

[Guest alex]

Perhaps he'll recommend a centre-forward this summer.

[ChezGiven 0]

I thought it was McClaren who spoke to Tiote and recommended him playing in England? Or was that Sven?

[Ayatollah Hermione 14087]

I thought it was McClaren who spoke to Tiote and recommended him playing in England? Or was that Sven?

 

That McClaren thing rings a bell. Said that he'd suit English football or it would be good for him IIRC. Along those lines anyway.

Edited May 19, 2011 by Ayatollah Hermione

[StoneColdStephenIreland 74]

I'm sure i can remember seeing last summer that WBA were interested in him aswell

 

If thats the case we should blow most of our budget on WBA scouting system

 

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_6320736,00.html

Edited May 19, 2011 by StoneColdStephenIreland