Phil 6 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Anyone else surprised to see where we are. http://www.premierleague.com/page/FairPlayTable Mr Tiote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonGoodwyn 1 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Nearly posted this the other day. It's not just our cards that are dragging us down, but our respect towards refs and opponents is the lowest of any team. I guess Barton/Nolan/Tiote/Jonas moaning about near enough every decision drags that down quite a lot, even though there isn't usually a lot of malice in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13766 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 I wouldn't say we're a dirty team though; a lot of those have been for silly fouls. Danny Simpson is quite bad for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Nearly posted this the other day. It's not just our cards that are dragging us down, but our respect towards refs and opponents is the lowest of any team. I guess Barton/Nolan/Tiote/Jonas moaning about near enough every decision drags that down quite a lot, even though there isn't usually a lot of malice in it. I find that hard to believe tbh. Not that I give a shit about this anyway, beyond the suspensions etc. And I actually think Nolan does a good job of reminding the ref of persistent fouling of players by the opposition. Something a captain should do but not something I noticed others doing for us in the past very often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 6 Posted May 16, 2011 Author Share Posted May 16, 2011 I thought Chelsea moaned an awful lot at the ref and they are top! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 I thought Chelsea moaned an awful lot at the ref and they are top! The refs are desperate to be pals with the top players in the top teams like which may account for that. I assume the ref scores that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonGoodwyn 1 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Nearly posted this the other day. It's not just our cards that are dragging us down, but our respect towards refs and opponents is the lowest of any team. I guess Barton/Nolan/Tiote/Jonas moaning about near enough every decision drags that down quite a lot, even though there isn't usually a lot of malice in it. I find that hard to believe tbh. Not that I give a shit about this anyway, beyond the suspensions etc. And I actually think Nolan does a good job of reminding the ref of persistent fouling of players by the opposition. Something a captain should do but not something I noticed others doing for us in the past very often. It all depends on how the scoring works really. I guess you lose points for most things, no matter how trivial, so a few nothing fouls or wags of the finger will lose you more points than if 5-6 players crowd round the ref yelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WordPlay 0 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 (edited) Surprised by Chelsea. Their players are always getting booked on accounts of unsupporting behaviour Edited May 16, 2011 by WordPlay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Nearly posted this the other day. It's not just our cards that are dragging us down, but our respect towards refs and opponents is the lowest of any team. I guess Barton/Nolan/Tiote/Jonas moaning about near enough every decision drags that down quite a lot, even though there isn't usually a lot of malice in it. I find that hard to believe tbh. Not that I give a shit about this anyway, beyond the suspensions etc. And I actually think Nolan does a good job of reminding the ref of persistent fouling of players by the opposition. Something a captain should do but not something I noticed others doing for us in the past very often. It all depends on how the scoring works really. I guess you lose points for most things, no matter how trivial, so a few nothing fouls or wags of the finger will lose you more points than if 5-6 players crowd round the ref yelling. Should be based purely on cards imo. If the ref deems the moaning etc. to be bad enough he can always book a player for dissent. Otherwise it's just too subjective. As are the other indicators in the table. Our 'positive play' rating is a joke in comparison to some of the others on there, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 So on reds and yellows we are the second cleanest team in the league after Man City? How the fuck can you come bottomof the fair play league if that's the case. Daft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonGoodwyn 1 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Nearly posted this the other day. It's not just our cards that are dragging us down, but our respect towards refs and opponents is the lowest of any team. I guess Barton/Nolan/Tiote/Jonas moaning about near enough every decision drags that down quite a lot, even though there isn't usually a lot of malice in it. I find that hard to believe tbh. Not that I give a shit about this anyway, beyond the suspensions etc. And I actually think Nolan does a good job of reminding the ref of persistent fouling of players by the opposition. Something a captain should do but not something I noticed others doing for us in the past very often. It all depends on how the scoring works really. I guess you lose points for most things, no matter how trivial, so a few nothing fouls or wags of the finger will lose you more points than if 5-6 players crowd round the ref yelling. Should be based purely on cards imo. If the ref deems the moaning etc. to be bad enough he can always book a player for dissent. Otherwise it's just too subjective. As are the other indicators in the table. Our 'positive play' rating is a joke in comparison to some of the others on there, for example. Aye, its clearly a load of pish. Its a joke that you can get into Europe via it, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 So on reds and yellows we are the second cleanest team in the league after Man City? How the fuck can you come bottomof the fair play league if that's the case. Daft. I couldn't work the table out like but didn't want to appear stupid As I read it you get points for negative things, i.e. red and yellow cards, but you also get points for positive things, like 'positive play' so I couldn't really tell how they worked out the top and bottom on a points basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonGoodwyn 1 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 So on reds and yellows we are the second cleanest team in the league after Man City? How the fuck can you come bottomof the fair play league if that's the case. Daft. I think you start with 10 points, then lose 1/3 or each yellow/red - so a high score is better, and we're actually the second worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 So on reds and yellows we are the second cleanest team in the league after Man City? How the fuck can you come bottomof the fair play league if that's the case. Daft. I couldn't work the table out like but didn't want to appear stupid As I read it you get points for negative things, i.e. red and yellow cards, but you also get points for positive things, like 'positive play' so I couldn't really tell how they worked out the top and bottom on a points basis. Think I've got it...you start a game with 10 points and lose them for every yellow and red. So our low score is a bad thing. Worse systyem than AV that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 So on reds and yellows we are the second cleanest team in the league after Man City? How the fuck can you come bottomof the fair play league if that's the case. Daft. I think you start with 10 points, then lose 1/3 or each yellow/red - so a high score is better, and we're actually the second worst. Thanks. Got there eventually. I'm sure it made sense to whoever at the FA came up with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Ah right, cheers you two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30219 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 I thought Chelsea moaned an awful lot at the ref and they are top! The refs are desperate to be pals with the top players in the top teams like which may account for that. I assume the ref scores that. It's scored by the referee's assessor I believe. Anyway, the team that finishes top will qualify for the Europa League next season, it's currently Fulham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 I thought Chelsea moaned an awful lot at the ref and they are top! The refs are desperate to be pals with the top players in the top teams like which may account for that. I assume the ref scores that. It's scored by the referee's assessor I believe. Anyway, the team that finishes top will qualify for the Europa League next season, it's currently Fulham. Is that right? Ridiculous that like. I thought you used to just go into the hat and one (or a few) teams were picked out of all the winners of the fair play league across all the Uefa countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30219 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 It's based on the Fair Play of each country's clubs in Europe. Just been announced today that England came second. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13409159.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Load of fucking shite. Respect? My arse. We're a soft target for the assessors, simple as that. At least we're not letting folk walk all over us. Propar hard us, like. As I said, a load of bollocks imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 3343 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 How the hell are Blackpool 5th? After watching Adam called the ref a fucking cunt every decision that went against them, you have to wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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