Christmas Tree 4858 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 No, but like I said, he's not a perfect package yet... however would Harper standing on his line have done better in that situation? When Alex was always gonna be the first to the ball? Narh, that woulda gone in anyway, at least Krul tries putting his body in front of the ball, and looks like he cares He could've easily saved it if he'd been stood on his line instead of in a heap on the corner of the six yard box. I'm not saying a keeper should never come off his line btw, more that there is a time & place for it, and if you do it you MUST make it to the ball. Pardoo acknowledged that it was a individual error on Krul's part in his post-match interview. Nothing wrong with errors. All players have them, even the best, but it deosnt stop that player being first choice. Who was responsible for the first goal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7576 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Krul has a long time to mature and get the errors out of his game. He's a long way off being at his peak as a keeper. Is a good shot stopper, which is a great fundamental to build on. With his height and reach he should be able to control the area well but obviously needs some improvement in his decision making. What you have to hope is that he will learn from each mistake he makes. If that's the case then he should have learnt quite a bit this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4858 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 A learning and maturing Krul is far better than an over the hill and declining harper imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 No, but like I said, he's not a perfect package yet... however would Harper standing on his line have done better in that situation? When Alex was always gonna be the first to the ball? Narh, that woulda gone in anyway, at least Krul tries putting his body in front of the ball, and looks like he cares He could've easily saved it if he'd been stood on his line instead of in a heap on the corner of the six yard box. I'm not saying a keeper should never come off his line btw, more that there is a time & place for it, and if you do it you MUST make it to the ball. Pardoo acknowledged that it was a individual error on Krul's part in his post-match interview. Nothing wrong with errors. All players have them, even the best, but it deosnt stop that player being first choice. Who was responsible for the first goal? You'd surely agree that better players make fewer errors though? For their first the marking in general was a bit shambolic and Colo let Ivanovic get in front of him iirc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7576 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 For their first the marking in general was a bit shambolic and Colo let Ivanovic get in front of him iirc. It was a well worked set-piece as well. Colo's marking wasn't great, but then Torres should not have been able to so freely flick the ball on. It was more so great commitment and focus from Ivanovic to be so ready and aware for the opportunity that arose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1260 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 You should never underestimate the importance of experience for a keeper, it's why most of them don't peak until theyre getting on for thirty. Krill is likely to keep making mistakes (he's certainly made more than that one yesterday this season) until he matures as a keeper which is something Harper does a lot less of. Also Krul doesn't seem to make many saves. There's not many shots that have gone past him that I have thought he should have got to (and I can't make my mind up as to whether he's doing something wrong which is causing so my deflections to go past him) but he just doesn't seem to be stopping much. I was very keen for him to get a run in the side earlier this term because he's looked a top prospect and thinking for the future, you'd think we'd be much better off with him and Forster in the squad than Harper who will only have a few top flight seasons left. But the thing that his time in the team showed to me was that Harper is currently the more reliable choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaythesouthernmag 0 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 They looked decent against a Chelsea side that wasn't as competitive as in other circumstances. I'd like to see them do it at Stoke on a cold Wednesday morning. Aaahhh, those Wednesday morning games, real killer them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaythesouthernmag 0 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 yea lets hope so ashley will do anything to sell our best players and i reckon theres gonna be some suprises I'm sure he will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaythesouthernmag 0 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 I know its not a priority but if Brum go then I'd have Foster if he's cheap enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 I know its not a priority but if Brum go then I'd have Foster if he's cheap enough Can't see Ashley paying the English player premium. He could get much better abroad for £4m - £6m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaythesouthernmag 0 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 I know its not a priority but if Brum go then I'd have Foster if he's cheap enough Can't see Ashley paying the English player premium. He could get much better abroad for £4m - £6m. True but if we can get a decent price off Celtic for Forster then maybe. Foster has been class for Brum and has prem experience. I'm not convinced by Krul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaythesouthernmag 0 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 What about when he came out to punch, missed, and they got their second goal? Would Harper have done that? Forster punches too much for my liking too, from what I've seen of him mind. No but then again why was Alex being, #1 marked half arsed at the back post resulting in basically a free header #2 being marked by Danny Simpson who is shite in the air and half Alex's size... maybe Krul went for it thinking "it's better than nothing" as for "harper making less mistakes"..wise up, it was a month ago when he decided to turn into beckenbauer and lost the ball, he's had plenty of spills. Even if they make the same amount or are currently of a similar standard Krul will improve...Harper won't, so why not let the lad improve. Let him improve somewhere else, his mistakes could be costly next season. We need a reliable,experienced keeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 They looked decent against a Chelsea side that wasn't as competitive as in other circumstances. I'd like to see them do it at Stoke on a cold Wednesday morning. Aaahhh, those Wednesday morning games, real killer them Think you might've been whooshed in the stampede to make a cutting remark there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 from .com Of the 15 players used, seven have previously appeared at Academy level for the club - messrs Ameobi, Ameobi, Ferguson, Ranger, LuaLua, S.Taylor and Krul (although the latter played just once). Unused subs Soderberg and Tavernier take that total to 9. Eight of the 18 players named were signed for a transfer fee (or in a part-exchange deal) - messrs Krul, Simpson, Coloccini, Enrique, Gutierrez, Barton, R.Taylor and Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleeToonFan 1 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 from .com Of the 15 players used, seven have previously appeared at Academy level for the club - messrs Ameobi, Ameobi, Ferguson, Ranger, LuaLua, S.Taylor and Krul (although the latter played just once). Unused subs Soderberg and Tavernier take that total to 9. Eight of the 18 players named were signed for a transfer fee (or in a part-exchange deal) - messrs Krul, Simpson, Coloccini, Enrique, Gutierrez, Barton, R.Taylor and Smith. Just goes to show how great our youth system is. I mean I know the lack of ambition this shows our board have etc etc etc... but can we ignore that for once and just appreciate the way our club is bringing up some excellent youth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17729 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 from .com Of the 15 players used, seven have previously appeared at Academy level for the club - messrs Ameobi, Ameobi, Ferguson, Ranger, LuaLua, S.Taylor and Krul (although the latter played just once). Unused subs Soderberg and Tavernier take that total to 9. Eight of the 18 players named were signed for a transfer fee (or in a part-exchange deal) - messrs Krul, Simpson, Coloccini, Enrique, Gutierrez, Barton, R.Taylor and Smith. Just goes to show how great our youth system is. I mean I know the lack of ambition this shows our board have etc etc etc... but can we ignore that for once and just appreciate the way our club is bringing up some excellent youth. The same was said of all the young uns at Boro a few years back....they sold the best and the ones that remained weren't good (or maybe experianced?) enough to keep them in the Prem. The ones who played yeaterday did ok, but it was basically little more than a training ground game for Chelsea. Ferguson looks ok, but anyone who thinks he's more than Wayne Routlegde with a left foot is mistaken if you ask me. Too small, to make it at the top with his build nowadays you need to be in the Messi/Iniesta mould and I dont think anyone would claim he's got the potential to be that good. Not seen enough of the rest to form any worthwhile opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinofbeans 91 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 One mistake by Krul... that's less than Harper over the season... I still like him and want him starting next season, over Harper or Fraser "Doing half decent against the Scottish league" Forster Krul is a mile better than Harper. Learnin sure, but will keep on getting better and better. Don't be fucking stupid. Krul has potential but to say he's currently better than Harper is nothing short of ridiculous. not yet. needs to improve his decision making. when harper becomes completely immobile ( april next year) the balance will have tipped!.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 I reckon Fergie already looks better than Routledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4858 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 I reckon Fergie already looks better than Routledge. Of course he does and he's hard as nails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonFilet 0 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 One might say that our young goalie is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerbarton 24 Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 Anyone who thinks Krul is better than Harper must be having a bubble. Harper, for my money, is one of the best keepers in the league. I can recall one mistake from him all season, against Stoke. As for Krul, I like him and he has potential, but he's shown some naivety when he's been in the team this season. He's not ready for our first team yet by any stretch. We should farm him out on loan somewhere where he can get regular first team football next season and have Forster on the bench behind Harps. At Stevie's age, as has been shown this year, he will pick up injuries and that'll provide us with a chance to see how good Forster is. To be fair, he's been playing in a pressure cooker this season at Celtic Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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