sammynb 3343 Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 If they had not been banned from the US in the early years. Listening to a compile collection you can hear the change around the time of Waterloo Street, where they lose their British garage sound for that poxy pop folk sound. This was in that two year period when the Beach Boys released Pet Sounds and The Beatles counted with (the white album) - it's almost like The Kinks by being isolated from the US market were no longer being pushed to test the boundaries and settled for life in the Village green. Or was Ray Davies always heading in this direction as a song writer and their US ban is irrelevant? btw David Watts and Victoria are two great songs but I reached them through the Jam and the Fall, which takes away from the Kinks' originals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 I liked them too, but personally I don't think anybody can compare with the Beatles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Isn't Ray Davies a twunt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Isn't Ray Davies a twunt? Never did Paul McCartney any harm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 3343 Posted May 12, 2011 Author Share Posted May 12, 2011 Isn't Ray Davies a twunt? Never did Paul McCartney any harm. Except when he married that one legged makem twunt. Even Lennon was a twat but it was s different time and harder to find success. Now any old X Factor reject can release a single. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13766 Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Only band to match The Beatles in trying different styles and making them work but they just weren't as good IMO. Class all the same like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Was listening to Pet Sounds the other day and there I heard a pop album that rivals the Beatle's efforts from the same period. Kinks aren't as good as either imo, but the US ban was a disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Was listening to Pet Sounds the other day and there I heard a pop album that rivals the Beatle's efforts from the same period. Kinks aren't as good as either imo, but the US ban was a disgrace. Brian Wilson was on The One Show the other night. As much fun as watching Ali when he gets rolled out. Not all there. £65 a ticket at the sage for his Gershwin show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 I think the Beatles had more than just the music, their sense of humour and the resulting films made them even bigger than just the music alone. Cant imagine Ray and Dave ever getting that level of interaction that all 4 of the Beatles had on screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Was listening to Pet Sounds the other day and there I heard a pop album that rivals the Beatle's efforts from the same period. Kinks aren't as good as either imo, but the US ban was a disgrace. Brian Wilson was on The One Show the other night. As much fun as watching Ali when he gets rolled out. Not all there. £65 a ticket at the sage for his Gershwin show Might check a bit of that on I Player. It's a shame, but in a way it's nice that people like him and Peter Green can still get out there and play music despite their illnesses (I'm presuming Wilson is mentally ill, every fucker says he is). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13766 Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Brian Wilson is also on Jools Holland this coming Friday. I'd go and see him but it's always a crap shoot with shows like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Pet Sounds is quality like. I realise that's not an earth-shattering revelation btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Pet Sounds is quality like. I realise that's not an earth-shattering revelation btw. It's worth saying though, because the Beach Boys don't have a monopoly on publicity like, say, the Beatles do now. They're not mentioned enough, especially in England, when discussing the pop music from that era. I only listened to Pet Sounds all the way through a week or two ago, it's absolutely awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 As much as I like Wouldn't It Be Nice, Sloop John B and God Only Knows, I think I prefer Heroes & Villians and Good Vibrations. Shame he went dotty before Smile got finished, and shame a lot of it was messed with for Smiley Smile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Was listening to Pet Sounds the other day and there I heard a pop album that rivals the Beatle's efforts from the same period. Kinks aren't as good as either imo, but the US ban was a disgrace. Brian Wilson was on The One Show the other night. As much fun as watching Ali when he gets rolled out. Not all there. £65 a ticket at the sage for his Gershwin show Might check a bit of that on I Player. He finishes the show with In My Room. Which is a fucking gorgeous song... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 £65 a ticket at the sage for his Gershwin show I've been grossly unfair. £50 tops http://www.thesagegateshead.org/whats_on/e...=&match=any Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Not bad like, considering some of the price ranges these days. Assuming it's a good show that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 3343 Posted May 12, 2011 Author Share Posted May 12, 2011 See I was a Beatles fan at 13 years of age and then nothing, no connection at all. But a couple of weeks ago I was working on something that was using Here Comes The Sun and I could hear what was special about it, hence why I've been on a '60s music bender. For me The Beatles earlier releases weren't a patch on The Kinks' singles but it's obvious that '66/67/68 was the turning point for a lot of bands/artists and unfortunately for the Kinks it was their undoing. '66 saw the Stones move to Paint it Black and The Who to My Generation, so basically everyone else could hear the strength of the Kinks' fuzzed out guitars and yet Ray Davies because his songs weren't charting in the US couldn't see the strength and commercial success of the sound he basically pioneered. So he moved to a shitty Village Green! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13766 Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 £51 is the cheapest ticket for George Michael btw JFWTBH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Living on a thin line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 3343 Posted May 12, 2011 Author Share Posted May 12, 2011 Living on a thin line. Oi, 2twats, I know you're chilled marra but that doesn't exempt you from replying to PMs!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Living on a thin line. Oi, 2twats, I know you're chilled marra but that doesn't exempt you from replying to PMs!!! Shit, I forgot about that. I remember reading on my phone while I was out on the drink, and thinking I'll reply later... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dafydd 0 Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Beatles made so much money the taxes they paid feed the georides skol super ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 The total earnings of the Beatles as a group--and the individual members of the group after the breakup--is approximately 1% of the total amount that scousers claim per week in benefits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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