Dafydd 0 Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 dadoon why dont you reply to anyones comments lad? Somemore Liverpool teams should be at the top as well by the way. Dont forget we won the European cup 5 times and we got banned for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 dadoon why dont you reply to anyones comments lad? Somemore Liverpool teams should be at the top as well by the way. Dont forget we won the European cup 5 times and we got banned for years. oh well if number of murders is being taken into account then Liverpool 85 has to be up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Only a Liverpool fan could bring up Heysel and play the victim card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dafydd 0 Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 oh well if number of murders is being taken into account then Liverpool 85 has to be up there.  Only a Liverpool fan could bring up Heysel and play the victim card.  Despite its status as Belgium's national stadium, Heysel Stadium was not a suitable venue for a match such as the European Cup Final. The 55-year-old stadium had not been well maintained for several years, and large parts of the stadium were crumbling. For example, the outer wall had been made of cinder block, and fans who didn't have tickets were seen kicking holes in it to get in. Liverpool players and fans later said that they were shocked at the abject conditions of the ground, despite reports from Arsenal fans that the stadium was a "dump" when the Gunners played there a few years earlier. Liverpool CEO Peter Robinson urged UEFA to choose another venue, to no avail.  The stadium was crammed with 58,000–60,000 supporters, with more than 25,000 for each team. The two ends behind the goals comprised all-standing terraces, each end split into three zones. The Juventus end was O, N and M. At the other end Liverpool were allocated X and Y, with the Z section (to one side) being reserved for neutral Belgian fans. The idea of this large neutral area was opposed by both Liverpool and Juventus, as it would provide an opportunity for fans of both clubs to obtain tickets from agencies or from ticket touts outside the ground and thus create a dangerous mix of fans.  At the time Brussels, like the rest of Belgium, already had a large Italian community, and many expatriate Juventus fans bought the section Z tickets. Added to this, many tickets were bought up and sold by travel agents, mainly to Juventus fans. A small percentage of the tickets ended up in the hands of Liverpool fans.  After an 18-month investigation, the dossier of top Belgian judge Mrs Marina Coppieters was finally published. In sharp contrast to the one-sided version of events on the UK side of the Channel, it concluded that perhaps blame should not rest solely with the English fans, but instead should be shared by the police and football authorities. Several top officials were incriminated by some of the dossier’s findings, including police captain Johan Mahieu, who had been in charge of security on 29 May 1985 and was now charged with involuntary manslaughter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Aye I remember the police charging the Italians and pushing a wall over too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Well done on quoting wikipedia there btw. I don't think anyone has ever suggested that the Belgian police or the suitability of the stadium itself should be exempt from criticism. That hardly excuses the behaviour of the Liverpool fans on the night or absolves them of the vast majority of the blame for what happened though, does it? To play the 'hard done to' card for being banned for Europe after that is a joke (albeit a sick one). Everton on the other hand have legitimate cause for complaint as they suffered for something that had nothing to do with them. Funnily enough I was actually in Liverpool on the night of the Heysel European Cup final. There were people in the city centre trying to sell cut-price 'Liverpool European Champions 1985' t-shirts in the city centre the next day. I shit you not. Then there were those banners at the game 'celebrating' Munich '58. There's that inimitable Scouse wit for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dafydd 0 Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 What happend "Alex" was not a joke but a tragedy. It could of happened to any team. It was a shit stadium and the police were fucking jokes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 What happend "Alex" was not a joke but a tragedy. It could of happened to any team. It was a shit stadium and the police were fucking jokes. Well, any team supported by rioting ticketless scallies. Â Worst supporters in Europe: OFFICIAL Â http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/footbal...ort-451610.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 What happend "Alex" was not a joke but a tragedy. It could of happened to any team. It was a shit stadium and the police were fucking jokes. And your fans were a fucking disgrace. A bit like your comprehension skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadoon 0 Posted May 20, 2011 Author Share Posted May 20, 2011 Good evening, everyone. here I'm back with poll's updates. so.... we are just in the end of the 4th week of the poll and here is the current situation top 10: #1. Liverpool 77'-78' #2. Milan 89'-90' #3. Real Madrid 56'-60' #4. Man Utd 99' #5. Ajax 71'-73' #6. Bayern Munich 74'-76' #7. Real Madrid 2002 #8. Arsenal 2004 #9. Ajax 95' #10. Santos 62'-63' Â Honourable mentions: #11. Juventus 85' & Man Utd 68' & Dortmund 97' #14. Liverpool 2005 #15. Benfica 61'-62' & Man Utd 58' Â keep on good work. next update- friday, next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadoon 0 Posted May 27, 2011 Author Share Posted May 27, 2011 Hello and good morning everyone. here I'm back with the last update. we are 1 week from the poll's end. here is the situation: Top 10: #1. Liverpool 77'-78' #2. Milan 89'-90' #3. Real Madrid 56'-60' #4. Ajax 71'-73' #5. Man Utd 99' #6. Bayern Munich 74'-76' #7. Real Madrid 2002 #8. Ajax 95' #9. Arsenal 2004 #10. Man Utd 68' Â Honourable mentions: #11. Juventus 85' #12. Man Utd 58' #13. Liverpool 2005 & Santos 62'-63' & Dortmund 61'-62' & Benfica 61'-62' Â that's all, dudes. next friday it will be the end and I will post the final results of the poll- top 10 and honourable mentions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7083 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Can the winning team get a long running "best player" poll? Â When this one ends it'll be like a death in the family on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Besty 4 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Congrats to all involved, we now have 10 votes in the poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieRoss 0 Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 The Ajax team fom the early seventies was the best club side in the last 50 years. There should be no credible argument about that, I can only assume that most people voting are too young to have actually seen them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30682 Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Stop derailing the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieRoss 0 Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Sorry. I just don't want fucking Liverpool to win... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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