ajax_andy 0 Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Given that you still have Man U, Man City and Chelsea still to play I wouldn't get too cocky. Well we usually stuff Man City so thats not a fixture i'm concerned by, but yeah the other 2 will be tricky to say the least. Look i'm not trying to say Everton are the greatest team ever, i've already stated that we have underchieved this season, and i've said the Toon have done well. But its about setting realistic expectations. Finishing 7th just isn't particularly realistic, neither is continually expecting moyes to perform miracles on fuck all budget, but then i'm not saying he can. I wouldn't say Everton should be aiming to finish in the top 4 because its not a realistic expectation, and neither is Newcastle United finishing top 7 next year. Top 12? Now there's something thats achievable, maybe even top 10 if someone wanted to be ambitious, but I just don't get the thinking behind "buy one or two players and we'll be better than Everton, Villa, Bolton etc etc" because it's just not true, and pretty disrespectful to those other teams, who have built up their squads over several seasons and have earned the right to be considered amongst the top 8 or 9 teams in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajax_andy 0 Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Andy - I've given you an Everton badge to avoid confusion. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 I think Andy's normally alright tbh but it's him rather than Chez losing it and not making a coherent argument here. Chez only loses it if Ben Arfa is in the room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano 0 Posted April 21, 2011 Author Share Posted April 21, 2011 Given that you still have Man U, Man City and Chelsea still to play I wouldn't get too cocky. Well we usually stuff Man City so thats not a fixture i'm concerned by, but yeah the other 2 will be tricky to say the least. Look i'm not trying to say Everton are the greatest team ever, i've already stated that we have underchieved this season, and i've said the Toon have done well. But its about setting realistic expectations. Finishing 7th just isn't particularly realistic, neither is continually expecting moyes to perform miracles on fuck all budget, but then i'm not saying he can. I wouldn't say Everton should be aiming to finish in the top 4 because its not a realistic expectation, and neither is Newcastle United finishing top 7 next year. Top 12? Now there's something thats achievable, maybe even top 10 if someone wanted to be ambitious, but I just don't get the thinking behind "buy one or two players and we'll be better than Everton, Villa, Bolton etc etc" because it's just not true, and pretty disrespectful to those other teams, who have built up their squads over several seasons and have earned the right to be considered amongst the top 8 or 9 teams in the league. We've built our squad up over several seasons too, its took dropping a league to reset the balance and to knit the squad together, also for some players to settle and come good. We WILL finish above your lot next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajax_andy 0 Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Of the Everton side, only Arteta, Howard, Saha, Cahill, and maybe one of Coleman or Heitinga, just because we don't quite have a suitable partner for Coloccini. I wouldn't trade Tiote, Barton, or Nolan for Rodwell or Fellatio in a second. Rodwell is decent and I'd have him at Newcastle as a backup for Coloccini. And don't even start with Baines, Jose Enrique outclasses him by miles. And Beckford is shit. I'm not going to agree all out and say that Newcastle are in an entirely better position to succeed going forward than Everton, I don't have enough (any) faith in the Fat Man to justify that. But what I will say is that given proper investment of the £35 million, it its not outside the realm of believability to think Newcastle could be challenging for the Top 7 next year. Oh, and 'walk before you can run' bit that Chez was alluding to was that its a common phrase that gets bandied about regarding Newcastle, and just because you hear this soundbite you think saying it makes you sound smart. Not the fact that you've heard it before. Oh dear how unbelievable embarrasing for you! Baines - scored 4 goals and created 11 Enrique? - Over to you! If I wanted to sound smart i'd use a much more complex saying than "walk before you can run" which lets face it isn't the most mind blowing of sayings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Baines is a good player like but I think Enrique has the ability to play for a top club. Not sure Baines does. I honestly don't think Enrique would look at out of place in one of the top 10 sides in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Enrique is off to Milan anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajax_andy 0 Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Given that you still have Man U, Man City and Chelsea still to play I wouldn't get too cocky. Well we usually stuff Man City so thats not a fixture i'm concerned by, but yeah the other 2 will be tricky to say the least. Look i'm not trying to say Everton are the greatest team ever, i've already stated that we have underchieved this season, and i've said the Toon have done well. But its about setting realistic expectations. Finishing 7th just isn't particularly realistic, neither is continually expecting moyes to perform miracles on fuck all budget, but then i'm not saying he can. I wouldn't say Everton should be aiming to finish in the top 4 because its not a realistic expectation, and neither is Newcastle United finishing top 7 next year. Top 12? Now there's something thats achievable, maybe even top 10 if someone wanted to be ambitious, but I just don't get the thinking behind "buy one or two players and we'll be better than Everton, Villa, Bolton etc etc" because it's just not true, and pretty disrespectful to those other teams, who have built up their squads over several seasons and have earned the right to be considered amongst the top 8 or 9 teams in the league. We've built our squad up over several seasons too, its took dropping a league to reset the balance and to knit the squad together, also for some players to settle and come good. We WILL finish above your lot next season. Dropping a league to help knit a squad together is certainly an interesting way of doing things! Some would argue that if a squad was so good it woulnd't need knitting together and wouldn't need relegation to "reset" the balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Enrique is off to Milan anyway. Would make sense like. I'd rather see him there than Liverpool anyway. Just. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13766 Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 It's an odd trend on the internet that sees someone losing an argument then referring to the winner as being incredibly angry as if it gets him some points on board. I think Chez is the last person on here to get worked up over it tbh. Enrique is definitely better than Baines as well, don't be mental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 So long as he doesn't move to an English club it's not that bad. To be fair to him he stuck with us in the Championship and had great banter with the fans so I don't really think he owes us anything especially when it comes to a club like Milan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajax_andy 0 Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Baines is a good player like but I think Enrique has the ability to play for a top club. Not sure Baines does. I honestly don't think Enrique would look at out of place in one of the top 10 sides in Europe. Its all subjective though based on who you watch on a regular basis. Baines this season has been immense and brings so much to our team in an attacking sense: "So far this season he has assisted 11 Premier League goals and only Nani (18) has more. As for defenders there is no contest. He has seven more than closest rivals Iain Evatt and Branislav Ivanovic, who both have four. Perhaps a better insight comes when you compare the 26-year-old to the players perceived to be the division’s best in his position. In the time it has taken Baines to create 27 assists, Ashley Cole and Patrice Evra lag behind on 11 apiece. Indeed, the Everton man’s tally over that period can only be bettered by four men in England’s top flight – Cesc Fabregas, Frank Lampard, Ashley Young and Nani. Concentrating just on this season again, Baines’ 11 assists gives him the fifth best tally across all of Europe’s top divisions. Nani (18), Lionel Messi (17), Dani Alves (14) and Cagliari’s Andrea Cossu (12) are the only players to have created more." I gotta be honest and say I can't think of anyone I'd want to swap Baines with at this moment in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7243 Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Everton are seemingly floundering, and as always financially skint. They've got about as many strikers as us, and about as much quality in the bunch. Yet ours have scored more goals this season - Everton Beckford 7 Anichebe 0 Saha 7 Total: 14 Newcastle Ameobi 5 Best 6 Lovenkrands 4 Total: 15 That's obviously not including the 11 from Carroll before he left. Nolan too has Cahill beaten 12 goals to 9. Everton do have some good players; Jagielka, Arteta before this season, Baines good in attack, Coleman also handy getting forward, Rodwell promising, Cahill instinctive match winner. Fellaini deviates from shite to quality, but all the while he's a foul committing machine that can't spell run let alone do it. With 35m properly spent next season we'd have a better side than them. That would complete the hat-trick - better side, better stadium, higher turnover. But I suppose Everton are nice and established as a top 5-8 team in their falling down stadium with their manager that half the fans want to see the back of. They've been bouncing off the ceiling of their potential for a few years now with no signs of doing anything to further themselves. 8th last season and likely to finish 7th this year. Not horrible, but always failing to live up to their own expectation. There's virtually no difference between finishing 7th and 17th in the league this season with 7th getting no European football a few extra pounds which the oweners are absolutely desparate for. Just my thoughts, don't care if I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonTheMag 4 Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Given that you still have Man U, Man City and Chelsea still to play I wouldn't get too cocky. Well we usually stuff Man City so thats not a fixture i'm concerned by, but yeah the other 2 will be tricky to say the least. Look i'm not trying to say Everton are the greatest team ever, i've already stated that we have underchieved this season, and i've said the Toon have done well. But its about setting realistic expectations. Finishing 7th just isn't particularly realistic, neither is continually expecting moyes to perform miracles on fuck all budget, but then i'm not saying he can. I wouldn't say Everton should be aiming to finish in the top 4 because its not a realistic expectation, and neither is Newcastle United finishing top 7 next year. Top 12? Now there's something thats achievable, maybe even top 10 if someone wanted to be ambitious, but I just don't get the thinking behind "buy one or two players and we'll be better than Everton, Villa, Bolton etc etc" because it's just not true, and pretty disrespectful to those other teams, who have built up their squads over several seasons and have earned the right to be considered amongst the top 8 or 9 teams in the league. Ha! Spending several seasons cultivating mediocrity doesn't mean you've got a 'right' to be there. Its not disrespect when you have the squad. Bolton have only been decent this year, and have spent most previous years after Allardyce being shit, what gives them the "right" to be considered for the Top 7? I'd rank those three teams youre considering as Aston Villa, Everton, then Bolton, and I firmly believe that right now NUFC are about 1-2 players behind Bolton, 2-3 behind Everton, and 3-4 behind Aston Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Baines is a good player like but I think Enrique has the ability to play for a top club. Not sure Baines does. I honestly don't think Enrique would look at out of place in one of the top 10 sides in Europe. Its all subjective though based on who you watch on a regular basis. Baines this season has been immense and brings so much to our team in an attacking sense: "So far this season he has assisted 11 Premier League goals and only Nani (18) has more. As for defenders there is no contest. He has seven more than closest rivals Iain Evatt and Branislav Ivanovic, who both have four. Perhaps a better insight comes when you compare the 26-year-old to the players perceived to be the division’s best in his position. In the time it has taken Baines to create 27 assists, Ashley Cole and Patrice Evra lag behind on 11 apiece. Indeed, the Everton man’s tally over that period can only be bettered by four men in England’s top flight – Cesc Fabregas, Frank Lampard, Ashley Young and Nani. Concentrating just on this season again, Baines’ 11 assists gives him the fifth best tally across all of Europe’s top divisions. Nani (18), Lionel Messi (17), Dani Alves (14) and Cagliari’s Andrea Cossu (12) are the only players to have created more." I gotta be honest and say I can't think of anyone I'd want to swap Baines with at this moment in time. That's an excellent return, I agree. It's completely atypical compared to the rest of his career prior to now though, isn't it? I think he's a good player having an outstanding season rather than an outstanding player. I'd say the others mentioned - Cole, Evra and Enrique are all better defensively too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonTheMag 4 Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Of the Everton side, only Arteta, Howard, Saha, Cahill, and maybe one of Coleman or Heitinga, just because we don't quite have a suitable partner for Coloccini. I wouldn't trade Tiote, Barton, or Nolan for Rodwell or Fellatio in a second. Rodwell is decent and I'd have him at Newcastle as a backup for Coloccini. And don't even start with Baines, Jose Enrique outclasses him by miles. And Beckford is shit. I'm not going to agree all out and say that Newcastle are in an entirely better position to succeed going forward than Everton, I don't have enough (any) faith in the Fat Man to justify that. But what I will say is that given proper investment of the £35 million, it its not outside the realm of believability to think Newcastle could be challenging for the Top 7 next year. Oh, and 'walk before you can run' bit that Chez was alluding to was that its a common phrase that gets bandied about regarding Newcastle, and just because you hear this soundbite you think saying it makes you sound smart. Not the fact that you've heard it before. Oh dear how unbelievable embarrasing for you! Baines - scored 4 goals and created 11 Enrique? - Over to you! If I wanted to sound smart i'd use a much more complex saying than "walk before you can run" which lets face it isn't the most mind blowing of sayings Being a left back isn't about creating goals and scoring, you should know that. Sure, Baines might be more prolific going forward and has better freekicks, but is no match to Jose Enrique defensively. And I'd like my leftback to prevent goals, I have strikers to score them! (Well, not at the moment, but you know what I mean ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajax_andy 0 Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Everton are seemingly floundering, and as always financially skint. They've got about as many strikers as us, and about as much quality in the bunch. Yet ours have scored more goals this season - Everton Beckford 7 Anichebe 0 Saha 7 Total: 14 Newcastle Ameobi 5 Best 6 Lovenkrands 4 Total: 15 That's obviously not including the 11 from Carroll before he left. Nolan too has Cahill beaten 12 goals to 9. Everton do have some good players; Jagielka, Arteta before this season, Baines good in attack, Coleman also handy getting forward, Rodwell promising, Cahill instinctive match winner. Fellaini deviates from shite to quality, but all the while he's a foul committing machine that can't spell run let alone do it. With 35m properly spent next season we'd have a better side than them. That would complete the hat-trick - better side, better stadium, higher turnover. But I suppose Everton are nice and established as a top 5-8 team in their falling down stadium with their manager that half the fans want to see the back of. They've been bouncing off the ceiling of their potential for a few years now with no signs of doing anything to further themselves. 8th last season and likely to finish 7th this year. Not horrible, but always failing to live up to their own expectation. There's virtually no difference between finishing 7th and 17th in the league this season with 7th getting no European football a few extra pounds which the oweners are absolutely desparate for. Just my thoughts, don't care if I'm wrong. If you spend £35m next season you'll have a better team? Well yeah obviously unless you spunked it all on shite lol! If we spent £300 billion we'd probs have a better team than Man U... but doesn't mean its going to happen. I have no problem admitting you have a higher turn over or better ground, your ground is fantastic in my opinion. Only a small few want Moyes out, thats not a particularly accurate point... same with any club really, can't have everyone happy all at the same time I disagree with a lot of your thoughts, but I like the fact you dont care if you're wrong or right so i'll not argue them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajax_andy 0 Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Given that you still have Man U, Man City and Chelsea still to play I wouldn't get too cocky. Well we usually stuff Man City so thats not a fixture i'm concerned by, but yeah the other 2 will be tricky to say the least. Look i'm not trying to say Everton are the greatest team ever, i've already stated that we have underchieved this season, and i've said the Toon have done well. But its about setting realistic expectations. Finishing 7th just isn't particularly realistic, neither is continually expecting moyes to perform miracles on fuck all budget, but then i'm not saying he can. I wouldn't say Everton should be aiming to finish in the top 4 because its not a realistic expectation, and neither is Newcastle United finishing top 7 next year. Top 12? Now there's something thats achievable, maybe even top 10 if someone wanted to be ambitious, but I just don't get the thinking behind "buy one or two players and we'll be better than Everton, Villa, Bolton etc etc" because it's just not true, and pretty disrespectful to those other teams, who have built up their squads over several seasons and have earned the right to be considered amongst the top 8 or 9 teams in the league. Ha! Spending several seasons cultivating mediocrity doesn't mean you've got a 'right' to be there. Its not disrespect when you have the squad. Bolton have only been decent this year, and have spent most previous years after Allardyce being shit, what gives them the "right" to be considered for the Top 7? I'd rank those three teams youre considering as Aston Villa, Everton, then Bolton, and I firmly believe that right now NUFC are about 1-2 players behind Bolton, 2-3 behind Everton, and 3-4 behind Aston Villa. You dont have the squad though thats the whole point of this argument isnt it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajax_andy 0 Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Of the Everton side, only Arteta, Howard, Saha, Cahill, and maybe one of Coleman or Heitinga, just because we don't quite have a suitable partner for Coloccini. I wouldn't trade Tiote, Barton, or Nolan for Rodwell or Fellatio in a second. Rodwell is decent and I'd have him at Newcastle as a backup for Coloccini. And don't even start with Baines, Jose Enrique outclasses him by miles. And Beckford is shit. I'm not going to agree all out and say that Newcastle are in an entirely better position to succeed going forward than Everton, I don't have enough (any) faith in the Fat Man to justify that. But what I will say is that given proper investment of the £35 million, it its not outside the realm of believability to think Newcastle could be challenging for the Top 7 next year. Oh, and 'walk before you can run' bit that Chez was alluding to was that its a common phrase that gets bandied about regarding Newcastle, and just because you hear this soundbite you think saying it makes you sound smart. Not the fact that you've heard it before. Oh dear how unbelievable embarrasing for you! Baines - scored 4 goals and created 11 Enrique? - Over to you! If I wanted to sound smart i'd use a much more complex saying than "walk before you can run" which lets face it isn't the most mind blowing of sayings Being a left back isn't about creating goals and scoring, you should know that. Sure, Baines might be more prolific going forward and has better freekicks, but is no match to Jose Enrique defensively. And I'd like my leftback to prevent goals, I have strikers to score them! (Well, not at the moment, but you know what I mean ) I'd say its about both attacking and defending in this day and age, Baines is good defensively and outstanding going forward... he's the complete package which surely counts for something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonTheMag 4 Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Ha! Spending several seasons cultivating mediocrity doesn't mean you've got a 'right' to be there. Its not disrespect when you have the squad. Bolton have only been decent this year, and have spent most previous years after Allardyce being shit, what gives them the "right" to be considered for the Top 7? I'd rank those three teams youre considering as Aston Villa, Everton, then Bolton, and I firmly believe that right now NUFC are about 1-2 players behind Bolton, 2-3 behind Everton, and 3-4 behind Aston Villa. You dont have the squad though thats the whole point of this argument isnt it? Not at the moment, but the whole point of what I just said was that given 2-3 quality players, we will be better than Everton. If we had the squad now, we'd be in 7th now, simples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajax_andy 0 Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Baines is a good player like but I think Enrique has the ability to play for a top club. Not sure Baines does. I honestly don't think Enrique would look at out of place in one of the top 10 sides in Europe. Its all subjective though based on who you watch on a regular basis. Baines this season has been immense and brings so much to our team in an attacking sense: "So far this season he has assisted 11 Premier League goals and only Nani (18) has more. As for defenders there is no contest. He has seven more than closest rivals Iain Evatt and Branislav Ivanovic, who both have four. Perhaps a better insight comes when you compare the 26-year-old to the players perceived to be the division’s best in his position. In the time it has taken Baines to create 27 assists, Ashley Cole and Patrice Evra lag behind on 11 apiece. Indeed, the Everton man’s tally over that period can only be bettered by four men in England’s top flight – Cesc Fabregas, Frank Lampard, Ashley Young and Nani. Concentrating just on this season again, Baines’ 11 assists gives him the fifth best tally across all of Europe’s top divisions. Nani (18), Lionel Messi (17), Dani Alves (14) and Cagliari’s Andrea Cossu (12) are the only players to have created more." I gotta be honest and say I can't think of anyone I'd want to swap Baines with at this moment in time. That's an excellent return, I agree. It's completely atypical compared to the rest of his career prior to now though, isn't it? I think he's a good player having an outstanding season rather than an outstanding player. I'd say the others mentioned - Cole, Evra and Enrique are all better defensively too. Always been a good going forward and gets a decent amount of assists, but this season he's taken that next step to become an outstanding all round player. He's 26 so approaching his prime so I expect him to continue this next year rather than it being a blip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajax_andy 0 Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Ha! Spending several seasons cultivating mediocrity doesn't mean you've got a 'right' to be there. Its not disrespect when you have the squad. Bolton have only been decent this year, and have spent most previous years after Allardyce being shit, what gives them the "right" to be considered for the Top 7? I'd rank those three teams youre considering as Aston Villa, Everton, then Bolton, and I firmly believe that right now NUFC are about 1-2 players behind Bolton, 2-3 behind Everton, and 3-4 behind Aston Villa. You dont have the squad though thats the whole point of this argument isnt it? Not at the moment, but the whole point of what I just said was that given 2-3 quality players, we will be better than Everton. If we had the squad now, we'd be in 7th now, simples. But thats going on the logic that we wont also improve our team with 2-3 quality players, and that Bolton and Villa dont, which isn't realistic. If everyone else improves by 2-3 players you'll be no closer unless they are world class which obviously costs £20m+ per player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonTheMag 4 Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Ha! Spending several seasons cultivating mediocrity doesn't mean you've got a 'right' to be there. Its not disrespect when you have the squad. Bolton have only been decent this year, and have spent most previous years after Allardyce being shit, what gives them the "right" to be considered for the Top 7? I'd rank those three teams youre considering as Aston Villa, Everton, then Bolton, and I firmly believe that right now NUFC are about 1-2 players behind Bolton, 2-3 behind Everton, and 3-4 behind Aston Villa. You dont have the squad though thats the whole point of this argument isnt it? Not at the moment, but the whole point of what I just said was that given 2-3 quality players, we will be better than Everton. If we had the squad now, we'd be in 7th now, simples. But thats going on the logic that we wont also improve our team with 2-3 quality players, and that Bolton and Villa dont, which isn't realistic. If everyone else improves by 2-3 players you'll be no closer unless they are world class which obviously costs £20m+ per player Well then its a good thing we've got 35 million pounds then! Its not easy to improve by 2-3 players, but Newcastle are in a significantly better position to do this in the offseason than Everton given your financial situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7243 Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 If you spend £35m next season you'll have a better team? Well yeah obviously We have guarantees that it will be spent. From our manager who has no idea, own chairman who lies and Tiote's Nutz who's sum is gullibility plus positivity ...unless you spunked it all on shite lol! Well yeah, there is that possibility. You've pretty much admitted that we're already not far behind you on the field if £35m makes us obviously better. Not bad for a newly promoted side eh? ...When you've had to bust your guts for years to earn the right for people to consider you relatively likely to finish in the region of 5-8 in the league. Must upset you when you've granted Bolton the same status when their league position in the last 3 seasons was 16th, 13th, 14th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajax_andy 0 Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Ha! Spending several seasons cultivating mediocrity doesn't mean you've got a 'right' to be there. Its not disrespect when you have the squad. Bolton have only been decent this year, and have spent most previous years after Allardyce being shit, what gives them the "right" to be considered for the Top 7? I'd rank those three teams youre considering as Aston Villa, Everton, then Bolton, and I firmly believe that right now NUFC are about 1-2 players behind Bolton, 2-3 behind Everton, and 3-4 behind Aston Villa. You dont have the squad though thats the whole point of this argument isnt it? Not at the moment, but the whole point of what I just said was that given 2-3 quality players, we will be better than Everton. If we had the squad now, we'd be in 7th now, simples. But thats going on the logic that we wont also improve our team with 2-3 quality players, and that Bolton and Villa dont, which isn't realistic. If everyone else improves by 2-3 players you'll be no closer unless they are world class which obviously costs £20m+ per player Well then its a good thing we've got 35 million pounds then! Its not easy to improve by 2-3 players, but Newcastle are in a significantly better position to do this in the offseason than Everton given your financial situation. In all likelyhood Moyes will ship out a lot of the deadwood this summer + one of either Fellaini or Rodwell for £20m. So the chances are we will also have money to spend... maybe not the £35m you quoted (if Ashley will actually spend that and I wouldn't be so sure), and i'd trust Moyes with £15m more than I'd trust Pardew with £35m thats for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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