Park Life 71 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 He's at Hull cause he told Pardnoclue to his face that he was a crap manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 He's at Hull because Steve Bruce convinced him to move there. Steve Bruce will have looked at his side and spotted it is crying out for some flair, hence Ben Arfa, Tom Ince and Gaston Ramirez, He's signed three players who are not renowned for their defensive work. He'll no doubt have a similar centre to last year; Huddlestone and Livermore providing steel in the centre, allowing the flair players license to attack. Β Tell you what, I'd rather watch Bruce's Hull than Pardew's Newcastle. Β Oh, and while Ben Arfa is there now, it's unlikely he'll be there next season. Wouldn't be surprised to see him playing European football on the continent. We won't be. Spot on Fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4857 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 He's at Hull cause he told Pardnoclue to his face that he was a crap manager. Β that might be the worst one yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15716 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Takes me back to the heady days of "manc-foplite", that does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46027 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 We should get Fish a Hull Ben Arfa top for his next birthday. That or Hull club shop vouchers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 "Neither love, friendship, or respect, unite as much as common hatred." Β Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10963 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 We should get Fish a Hull Ben Arfa top for his next birthday. That or Hull club shop vouchers. Good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 It's funny how they're trying to pin the Ben Arfa thing on Colo to ease the pressure on Pardew, yet what was the influential Coloccini's input when the club were dealing with Jonas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35574 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 It's funny how they're trying to pin the Ben Arfa thing on Colo to ease the pressure on Pardew, yet what was the influential Coloccini's input when the club were dealing with Jonas? While you might be right about them trying to shift the blame it's not really the same thing, i.e. the captain telling the manager, owner or whoever that player HBA is a disgrace and should be binned is likely to get a more sympathetic hearing than trying to get his mate a new contract / 1 year extension or whatever. As far as the owner is concerned, certainly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 While you might be right about them trying to shift the blame it's not really the same thing, i.e. the captain telling the manager, owner or whoever that player HBA is a disgrace and should be binned is likely to get a more sympathetic hearing than trying to get his mate a new contract / 1 year extension or whatever. As far as the owner is concerned, certainly. His mate's under contract though and not even allowed to train with the group. Hardly showing Colo up as someone with massive influence enough to decide the fate of HBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35574 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) His mate's under contract though and not even allowed to train with the group. Hardly showing Colo up as someone with massive influence enough to decide the fate of HBA Even if he did have enough sway you could argue that he could have wanted Ben Arfa out of the picture but was also able to accept that his mate wasn't good enough for the first team anymore. The two positions aren't contradictory. Edited September 12, 2014 by Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Even if he did have enough sway you could argue that he could have wanted Ben Arfa out of the picture but was also able to accept that his mate wasn't good enough for the first team anymore. The two positions aren't contradictory. But it's not about him being dropped it's about him being outcast and training alone in Argentina! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35574 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 But it's not about him being dropped it's about him being outcast and training alone in Argentina! Fair enough, I don't think it's a particularly classy move by the club by any means and I doubt Colo thinks so either but I think the point still stands, since it's more about (I think) him not being good enough any more. I suppose we don't know what happened behind closed doors and the captain could've made noises about it and we haven't found out. I think your point about Colo being given the blame for HBA is probably a legitimate one, in that I have little doubt the story has come from an official club source and been fed to Ryder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKANDWHITEGEORDIE 0 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Whether Colo was captain or not it would not make any difference whatsoever to Pardew. He takes advice from no one. Jonas is very near the number of games he needs to trigger a new contact. That is the only reason he is not in Pardew's 'plans'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7169 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 It's like a counselling session for Pardew from Gale here man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7169 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Cabella is actually lazier than HBA. Β£12mil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Cabella is actually lazier than HBA. Β£12mil French International though #astute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7485 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Bit harsh to judge any one player in our current side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Not harsh at all, they can all be judged on the merits of their individual performances which in Cabella's case has been "shite" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4826 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Is he playing today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonatine 11542 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Hull don't play until Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Cabella is actually lazier than HBA. Β£12mil Haven't seen anything so far. Early days, but might be one of those that might not thrive under the close and high intensity attention of the PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 I'd already worked that out just off watching him on YouTube, I'd dig out the quote but I think we're all comfortable with everything I say being correct now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4826 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 So is he getting a game tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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