Happy Face 29 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Who are the Palace journalists? I want to tweet them to ask Pardew what he thinks of the season Ben Arfa's having. After Tevez and Mascherano does he not worry that he fixates on hard work and is therefore incapable of exploiting pure talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobos 298 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 lol, go on son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44853 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 They'd probably reply with a picture of the league table. I wouldn't bother just now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Heh. I suppose handling talent wouldn't be a problem if he did get the England job. *pow* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2964 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) It was a very, very difficult period. The worst of my career, It was as if (my) hell began (at) Newcastle. There, on the first day back in August 2014, I was placed directly with the reserves. A terrible humiliation. Weeks passed and I was always with these young 16 and 17-year-olds on land away from those pros. I did not understand. They gave me a nightmare. It was full of little cheap shots. And when I believed in me (getting out) by signing for Nice, they were forbidden to hire me (until July). They gave me a letter with a fine because Id apparently put weight on over the summer. I had, Id put on 2.5kg, but thats because Id done a lot of weights. Id even made my body fat percentage drop! They also took away my number 10 and gave me number 26 without telling me. I had the feeling of being locked in a dark room without a door, or in an endless tunnel. I saw hell and especially no solution to my problems. At that time, I was wrong, I did not see any light. I was a prisoner. I was slapping myself every day to not let go. I tried to convince myself that the light was coming back, I was going to find the right path. By signing this summer with Nice, I really felt out of hell. In fact, thats it, I come back from hell. Edited November 10, 2015 by ohhh_yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10856 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 No coincidence he fell out with 2 managers in 6 months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10856 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 No coincidence he fell out with 2 managers in 6 months Nope, no coincidence, they're both shitcunts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobos 298 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 And he's a brilliant player - end of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 End of what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2204 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 It was a very, very difficult period. The worst of my career, It was as if (my) hell began (at) Newcastle. There, on the first day back in August 2014, I was placed directly with the reserves. A terrible humiliation. Weeks passed and I was always with these young 16 and 17-year-olds on land away from those pros. I did not understand. They gave me a nightmare. It was full of little cheap shots. And when I believed in me (getting out) by signing for Nice, they were forbidden to hire me (until July). They gave me a letter with a fine because Id apparently put weight on over the summer. I had, Id put on 2.5kg, but thats because Id done a lot of weights. Id even made my body fat percentage drop! They also took away my number 10 and gave me number 26 without telling me. I had the feeling of being locked in a dark room without a door, or in an endless tunnel. I saw hell and especially no solution to my problems. At that time, I was wrong, I did not see any light. I was a prisoner. I was slapping myself every day to not let go. I tried to convince myself that the light was coming back, I was going to find the right path. By signing this summer with Nice, I really felt out of hell. In fact, thats it, I come back from hell. What a load of self regarding shit. He had a disagreement with his employer, he wasn't on a quest for the holy grail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44853 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 It's that time of the month where we all have to get down on our knees and pipe that little fat cunt off, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33166 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 End of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2978 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I always believed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer 3 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 A talent I would love to see again in black and white. End of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3892 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 A talent I would love to see again in black and white. End of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42413 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Dad jokes are the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2978 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 He'll score for France next, because the universe enjoys making fun of Gemmers as much as the rest of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44853 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 If he does, I hope he dedicates it to all the crybabies on toontastic who jamais stopped believing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2204 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 He'll dedicate it to his miraculous escape from the nine circles of suffering all by himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2978 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 One for Ant. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTbKIII7Qbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2964 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Olivier Bernard: When he is well managed, Hatem Ben Arfa is up there with the very best in the world on his day and Newcastle United simply did not get the most out of him because they messed him around. Alan Pardew did not allow Ben Arfa to express himself and play his own game and that affected his performances and his attitudes. If he had been allowed a free role on the pitch, Ben Arfa would have thrived at St James Park. I dont just think he was poorly managed, I think he was wrongly managed. Hes back in the France squad now, because hes that talented. We saw in glimpses and flashes on Tyneside exactly what he is capable of but we never saw him at his very best, and that, to me, was down to bad management. Wherever he goes, Ben Arfa needs to be delicately managed there is no doubt about that but if you are able to do that then you will reap the rewards. Youve got to manage him properly. Its like when I was at Newcastle and Laurent Robert was there. You dont sign Robert and then play him at left-back. You cant sign a David Ginola and tell him he has to defend. When you sign that sort of flair player, who is capable of doing something out of this world, you have got to allow them to play their own natural game out on the field and not shackle them. You dont ask Lionel Messi to defend, do you? Potential matchwinners have got to be allowed to just play as they naturally do and to inspire the game in their own unique way. If you try to dictate to them then youre missing the whole point in them being there. And Newcastle missed the point with Ben Arfa. Absolutely 100 per cent they missed the point. A lot of people said that he doesnt love football anymore earlier this year but the fact is he now has a manager at Nice who knows how to get the best out of him. He is a top-quality player who needs to be approached differently to others. A lot of managers understand that, but I do not believe Pardew did with Ben Arfa. You cant get the quality Ben Arfa offers by asking him to be an all-round player. He is very good at what he does, so just leave him to do that, rather than encourage him to do things he doesnt like to do. Flair players need to be played week in, week out. You cant just drop them after a couple of bad games because, if they are out on the pitch, they can win you games. A system should be formed around those players, rather than pigeon-holing them into a formation you have already preconceived. You either sign them knowing that, or you simply dont sign them at all. For me, Ben Arfa was definitely ready to be back involved in the French national side and I would have liked to have seen more from him in the last two games in all honesty. He fully deserves his place in the France squad at the moment because he is in superb form. Not only is he in superb form for Nice, not only can he makes things happen out of nothing, and not only would he add something extra to the France starting line-up - he would add something extra to any team in the world. Ben Arfa was not on the field long enough at Wembley but, even in that short space of time, because if he had been - and there hadnt been the awful events of last Friday hanging over the game - then the English public would have been able to see exactly what they are missing with him being across in France rather than gracing Premier League football grounds. He is a special, special player - and Newcastle simply managed him wrongly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2978 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 He's a very special player. That's pretty obvious though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Gemmill's not going to be happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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