trooper 940 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 I think we're all starting to realise there is something more than Ben Arfur being a couple of lbs overweight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 (edited) Surely it's in everyone's interests to bury the hatchet, get him in the match day squad again instead of sticking him in with the stiffs. It's petty and way too punitive. What good will it do? He can do a job this season as part of that midfield outlined on the previous page or at the very least put himself in the shop window if the club have given up on him. That's what I don't get. This isn't going to increase his value, it's going to end up in him leaving for free or going for pennies. I suppose we'll see when the season kicks off what happens. If he's brought back into the first team then we'll know that they just wanted to move him on. If he isn't, it must have been something else. Seems a crying shame though given how good our team could be, that we're not prepared to make this work. That said, I wonder if the key issue is the problems in the dressing room. It might make bringing him back into the fold at this point a challenge. Edited August 1, 2014 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 It seems like there's no backing down from both sides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Pardew has finally opened up on the Hatem Ben Arfa situation at Newcastle United. The playmaker has been axed and is training with the reserves at Benton. And after leaving him out of the squad for the Schalke 04 Cup this weekend, Pardew has suggested that Ben Arfa’s lack of professionalism has cost him a place in the Toon squad this summer. “It’s a simple situation,” Pardew told BBC Newcastle. “We have a professionalism and a level of commitment to our work that he needs to fall into and until he falls into that he won’t be part of the first team. He isn’t at the moment and he’s injured today, ironically, but he’s still part of the club.” "We have a professionalism" bit rich coming from someone who was banned for misconduct last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Doesn't seem like Ben Arfa is the one being unprofessional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer 3 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Pardew is a fucking cheeky cunt coming out with that like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44888 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Immediately jumping on the manager with absolutely no idea of how the player is behaving. "No, YOU are the one what is the unprofessional, so called Mr Manager!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Immediately jumping on the manager with absolutely no idea of how the player is behaving. "No, YOU are the one what is the unprofessional, so called Mr Manager!" I think we're entitled to be a little sceptical when a manager that head butts opposing players calls one of his own out for being unprofessional Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 To be fair - Pardew's headbutt was class. A highlight of an otherwise dull second half to the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 6 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I have to question why Pardew has seemingly froze him out under a cloud of uncertainty. Surely Pardew should sit him or his agent down and make the path back into the first team clear - e.g. assign him a club appointed personal trainer, dietitian and psychologist. I can only assume Pardew has not made it clear because he's in the last year of his contract and he wants him to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 So what can we deduce from Ben Arfa being at the club at this time? No club wants him. Not even for a pissy nominal fee. Not even a club from the middle east. I rest my case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 6 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 So what can we deduce from Ben Arfa being at the club at this time? No club wants him. Not even for a pissy nominal fee. Not even a club from the middle east. I rest my case. AC Milan were quote 12m in the papers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Papers. Pffft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 To be fair, they could all be wondering the same things we are... "He's a really good player but there must be something wrong if Newcastle don't want to play him at all...I mean, they're not stupid..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lackie92 1 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 AC Milan were quote 12m in the papers If we get £12 million for Ben Arfa we are fucking laughing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 It's always a good ploy if you want to sell a player to speak out in the press about how unprofessional he is. Reminds me of the genius hand Souness and Shepherd played when we got about 1/4 of what Bellamy was worth (that's not a direct comparison between the two players btw). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 (edited) It's always a good ploy if you want to sell a player to speak out in the press about how unprofessional he is. Reminds me of the genius hand Souness and Shepherd played when we got about 1/4 of what Bellamy was worth (that's not a direct comparison between the two players btw). The club is run top to bottom by clowns (in purely football terms) bar that scout who hangs around French games. We must have the worst coaching staff in the league. Edited August 2, 2014 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7030 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 It does make you wonder what the likes of HBA and Cabella make of getting tech uncial advice from Carver, Stone and Pardew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 The club is run top to bottom by clowns (in purely football terms) bar that scout who hangs around French games. We must have the worst coaching staff in the league. Small steps for Ashley... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 It does make you wonder what the likes of HBA and Cabella make of getting tech uncial advice from Carver, Stone and Pardew When you think about how important the role of manager is (and how it's almost equally important that the manager is suported by able coaches) then it's ridiculous how little Ashley is prepared to spend on the manager / back room staff. Even more so when you consider what the likes of JFK and Wise were on for doing fuck all (or worse than fuck all in Wise's case). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7295 Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 It really is. More so when your transfer policy is built around developing young players to sell on for a profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 HBA missing a penalty against Barnsley reserves today. All a bit sad. Needs to move on for his own sake . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 What's so sad about him missing a pen for the reserves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 He was described as 'influential' by the club website so if anything he's had a decent match. Anyway - the penalty was saved, not missed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15531 Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 In case the distinction needs clarification: Microwaves 'save' a food's nutrition; as a result, its flavour and texture are 'missed'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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