Renton 20550 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Grayling on the book: "The Good Book mirrors the Bible in both form and language, and is, as its author says, “ambitious and hubristic—a distillation of the best that has been thought and said by people who’ve really experienced life, and thought about it.” Drawing on classical secular texts from east and west, Grayling has “done just what the Bible makers did with the sacred texts,” reworking them into a “great treasury of insight and consolation and inspiration and uplift and understanding in the great non-religious traditions of the world.” He has been working on his opus for several decades, and the result is an extravagantly erudite manifesto for rational thought." Fair enough, I didn't realise it was a serious attempt at producing a literal secular Bible. I'll stick to the Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster to guide my morality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 The King James is meant to be a great literary effort anyway, according to people who dig that sort of shite. He won't better it, but books dealing with atheism seem to sell well these days and he will have seen Dawkins, Hitch and the other lot get rich doing so. RE the existence of aliens. I've said this before, it'd make fuck all difference to a lot of religious people if there were concrete proof of extraterrestrial life. They'd make up some new bullshit to fit it in with their faith, or just flat out deny it. In fact, I was just watching an interview the other day with Billy Graham (famous US evangelist) and he said he believed there are many planets in the universe that are inhabited, but earth is the only planet whose inhabitants are in rebellion against god. So there you go, a fresh crock of shite to go with the scriptures and rhetoric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4281 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 RE the existence of aliens. I've said this before, it'd make fuck all difference to a lot of religious people if there were concrete proof of extraterrestrial life. They'd make up some new bullshit to fit it in with their faith, or just flat out deny it. In fact, I was just watching an interview the other day with Billy Graham (famous US evangelist) and he said he believed there are many planets in the universe that are inhabited, but earth is the only planet whose inhabitants are in rebellion against god. So there you go, a fresh crock of shite to go with the scriptures and rhetoric. The Vatican came out with some stuff a while ago about how they were confident any aliens would be God's children too - no word on why we got his "only son" and what the poor aliens had to do with instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 (edited) Well, that's because they're not in rebellion against god like us; they don't need to be saved. BG's line covers the bases pretty nicely. I'd like to see his fucking house, the filthy conniving bastard. He must be sitting on a few hundred mill, if not more. Edited April 6, 2011 by Kevin S. Assilleekunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21496 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 all religion's a load of crap at the end of the day innit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 20550 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 The King James is meant to be a great literary effort anyway, according to people who dig that sort of shite. He won't better it, but books dealing with atheism seem to sell well these days and he will have seen Dawkins, Hitch and the other lot get rich doing so. RE the existence of aliens. I've said this before, it'd make fuck all difference to a lot of religious people if there were concrete proof of extraterrestrial life. They'd make up some new bullshit to fit it in with their faith, or just flat out deny it. In fact, I was just watching an interview the other day with Billy Graham (famous US evangelist) and he said he believed there are many planets in the universe that are inhabited, but earth is the only planet whose inhabitants are in rebellion against god. So there you go, a fresh crock of shite to go with the scriptures and rhetoric. That mad bastard filled Roker Park back in the day iirc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10538 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 The King James is meant to be a great literary effort anyway, according to people who dig that sort of shite. He won't better it, but books dealing with atheism seem to sell well these days and he will have seen Dawkins, Hitch and the other lot get rich doing so. RE the existence of aliens. I've said this before, it'd make fuck all difference to a lot of religious people if there were concrete proof of extraterrestrial life. They'd make up some new bullshit to fit it in with their faith, or just flat out deny it. In fact, I was just watching an interview the other day with Billy Graham (famous US evangelist) and he said he believed there are many planets in the universe that are inhabited, but earth is the only planet whose inhabitants are in rebellion against god. So there you go, a fresh crock of shite to go with the scriptures and rhetoric. That mad bastard filled Roker Park back in the day iirc. That going towards their average attendance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Truth has been in flux since KK left. End of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted December 11, 2012 Author Share Posted December 11, 2012 2011 Census results make interesting reading.... There were four million fewer Christians in England and Wales in 2011 than 10 years ago, the census found. Among those who stated a religious affiliation, Christians remained the largest group - 33.2 million, representing 59% of residents. This compares with 37.3 million (72%) in 2001. The second-most common category was "No religion", comprising more than a quarter of the population (25.1%; 14.1 million), up from 7.7 million (14.8%) in 2001. The third-most popular category was Muslim, with numbers rising from 1.5 million (3%) to 2.7 million (4.8%) over the 10 years. All English regions and Wales saw a percentage decline in residents who described themselves as Christians over the period. The highest percentage of Christians was found in the North East of England, where 1.8 million worshippers represented 68% of residents. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20677321 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4510 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Surprised that only a quarter are no religion. Sure the church leaders will be wondering where the 59% are on a Sunday morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4281 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 The question was very badly worded as well (deliberately) as it mentioned how do you identify rather than what do you believe so a lapsed catholic for example would probably still say Christian. There was a campaign to change it but the Tories rejected it. Other data with better questions suggest a 10% lower "true" figure. Still good news though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 41474 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 God Bless Atheism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10538 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 How do UK stats compare to other European countries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4281 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 How do UK stats compare to other European countries? I think the trends are similar everywhere but the further north you go, the less people believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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