Christmas Tree 4858 Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 NEWCASTLE United scouts are out in force at the Continent’s top games again this weekend – but realistic Alan Pardew knows their extensive efforts are unlikely to turn up an army of Cheick Tiotes this summer. United dispatched a team of 12 scouts to scour the Championship, the SPL and several European leagues this weekend as Pardew’s £35m recruitment drive continues. And their efforts have thrown up a number of interesting names that the Toon believe could make a big impact in the Premier League. Ivory Coast striker Gervinho is on the list of forwards in the mix to fill the gap left by Andy Carroll, while the Sunday Sun can reveal Toulouse hard man Cheikh M’Bengue is also being watched in case Jose Enrique departs this summer. PSV winger Jeremain Lens was another winger linked this week. But while Newcastle believe there ARE bargains out there, Pardew knows the Continental route is unlikely to yield as much success as the club enjoyed with Tiote this summer. “I would say we will have 10 to 12 scouts at games. It is a decent number,” he said. “We’re making a lot of effort but we’re naive if we think we’re going to unearth four or five Cheick Tiotes in the summer. “That deal was brilliant for this football club and his first year in the Premier League, if you’d have paid £15million for him you’d have been fairly pleased with him. “To pay what we did, you would be ecstatic. To find four of those is impossible. Could we find one more of those? Possibly. Could we find two? Maybe. “But we’re not going to be able to fill all of the bases with players like Cheick. They don’t come along often.” Interestingly, Pardew also paid credit to Graham Carr for pushing through a deal for Tiote. The Ivorian hard man, such a revelation for Newcastle this term, was made available at the start of last summer and touted around to every Premier League club. Most took a close look at him and decided against a move. It was only United and fellow promoted side West Brom who tabled bids – with Newcastle’s higher profile persuading Tiote to join. Pardew said: “I’m very, very pleased with him, and Graham Carr must take a lot of the credit because he pushed very hard for him. “Cheick Tiote is part of our team now – we’ve got some other names that we hope can be like Cheick. But it’s only hope really.” Pardew admits Europe is probably the limit of United’s ambition in terms of transfers this season. While other clubs have had success spreading the net out to South and Central America, Newcastle’s view is that visa and passport issues make it difficult to justify sending scouts further than the big European leagues. “There is a problem with passports,” he said. “It is all well and good looking at the Brazilian market and Argentinian market where there is talent – perhaps more than any other countries – but they just can’t get passports that make them eligible.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 NEWCASTLE United scouts are out in force at the Continent’s top games again this weekend – but realistic Alan Pardew knows their extensive efforts are unlikely to turn up an army of Cheick Tiotes this summer. United dispatched a team of 12 scouts to scour the Championship, the SPL and several European leagues this weekend as Pardew’s £35m recruitment drive continues. And their efforts have thrown up a number of interesting names that the Toon believe could make a big impact in the Premier League. Ivory Coast striker Gervinho is on the list of forwards in the mix to fill the gap left by Andy Carroll, while the Sunday Sun can reveal Toulouse hard man Cheikh M’Bengue is also being watched in case Jose Enrique departs this summer. PSV winger Jeremain Lens was another winger linked this week. But while Newcastle believe there ARE bargains out there, Pardew knows the Continental route is unlikely to yield as much success as the club enjoyed with Tiote this summer. “I would say we will have 10 to 12 scouts at games. It is a decent number,” he said. “We’re making a lot of effort but we’re naive if we think we’re going to unearth four or five Cheick Tiotes in the summer. “That deal was brilliant for this football club and his first year in the Premier League, if you’d have paid £15million for him you’d have been fairly pleased with him. “To pay what we did, you would be ecstatic. To find four of those is impossible. Could we find one more of those? Possibly. Could we find two? Maybe. “But we’re not going to be able to fill all of the bases with players like Cheick. They don’t come along often.” Interestingly, Pardew also paid credit to Graham Carr for pushing through a deal for Tiote. The Ivorian hard man, such a revelation for Newcastle this term, was made available at the start of last summer and touted around to every Premier League club. Most took a close look at him and decided against a move. It was only United and fellow promoted side West Brom who tabled bids – with Newcastle’s higher profile persuading Tiote to join. Pardew said: “I’m very, very pleased with him, and Graham Carr must take a lot of the credit because he pushed very hard for him. “Cheick Tiote is part of our team now – we’ve got some other names that we hope can be like Cheick. But it’s only hope really.” Pardew admits Europe is probably the limit of United’s ambition in terms of transfers this season. While other clubs have had success spreading the net out to South and Central America, Newcastle’s view is that visa and passport issues make it difficult to justify sending scouts further than the big European leagues. “There is a problem with passports,” he said. “It is all well and good looking at the Brazilian market and Argentinian market where there is talent – perhaps more than any other countries – but they just can’t get passports that make them eligible.” Half of Argentina have got either a Spanish or Italian passport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithJ 0 Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Whether those passports are real or not are the questions though! Only players I can see from the SPL being of interested is Hooper, Emelio from Celtic. The other player I like the look of is Booth from Hibs who is a young left back. He seems to have the confidence to take players on and got a good cross. Weiss on loan from Man City looks quite a lively bag of tricks and I think city would let him go for not much money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Wasn't there supposed to be some sort of 'deal' arranged a couple of years ago where by we got first choice of S.American kids? When Shithead Wise was here? Can someone confirm this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Wasn't there supposed to be some sort of 'deal' arranged a couple of years ago where by we got first choice of S.American kids? When Shithead Wise was here? Can someone confirm this? Cali cartel aren't playing ball apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 10047 Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 (edited) Björn Vleminckx Make a song out of that one ye bugga !! Edited March 6, 2011 by Toonpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Kalou anyone? I'd take him, attainable for us too imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Wasn't there supposed to be some sort of 'deal' arranged a couple of years ago where by we got first choice of S.American kids? When Shithead Wise was here? Can someone confirm this? wasnt it the main reason Keegan stated for leaving? the fact we agreed a purchase based on youTube so we could do a South American agent a "favour" in return for first pick of the new talent from round that way. Well that worked fucking wonders didnt it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano 0 Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Kalou is a good shout, good pals with Tiote too i think. Can play as a front man or across the midfield...6mil? Hooper is another good shout, looks quick and composed upfront...celtic will probably want 4mil for him, they would probably want to tie Forster into the deal though. Lens would be one of my top targets. Not sure on Gervinho though...not seen much of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobbySol 7 Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Elia & Alexis Sanchez would be nice but massiely unlikely to happen Wouldn't mind Kalou and a big strong decent striker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 There's no chance Chelsea will sell Kalou. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smoggeordie 0 Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 There's no chance Kalou would sign for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 I bet we don't use the Carroll money as effectively as Liverpool did the Torres money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 There's no chance Chelsea will sell Kalou. There's talk of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smoggeordie 0 Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 I bet we don't use the Carroll money as effectively as Liverpool did the Torres money. Month's worth of Aspers trips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 I bet we don't use the Carroll money as effectively as Liverpool did the Torres money. I don't think they did use it effectively, especially when they're unlikely to have a big warchest to strengthen their defence and midfield. They could have done much much more with £50million. The only thing that is commendable is that they didn't let Torres go without having a replacement, but in terms of using the money effectively I don't think they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 What about that Jarvis lad from Wolves for a winger? I'll be honest ive never seen much of him, but whenever pundits etc go on about Wolves he always seems to get a mention, anyone know much of him and if he's alright? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 I bet we don't use the Carroll money as effectively as Liverpool did the Torres money. I don't think they did use it effectively, especially when they're unlikely to have a big warchest to strengthen their defence and midfield. They could have done much much more with £50million. The only thing that is commendable is that they didn't let Torres go without having a replacement, but in terms of using the money effectively I don't think they have. I'd say bringing in Suarez and Carroll is using it effectively. They'll give them a big edge compared to in the past few seasons when they've been massively over-reliant on Torres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 I bet we don't use the Carroll money as effectively as Liverpool did the Torres money. I don't think they did use it effectively, especially when they're unlikely to have a big warchest to strengthen their defence and midfield. They could have done much much more with £50million. The only thing that is commendable is that they didn't let Torres go without having a replacement, but in terms of using the money effectively I don't think they have. I'd say bringing in Suarez and Carroll is using it effectively. They'll give them a big edge compared to in the past few seasons when they've been massively over-reliant on Torres. They'll need better wingers to play to Carroll's strengths imo. Nowt wrong with the two they've bought but they've missed an opportunity to strengthen elsewhere, £50m is a huge sum, especially for a club claiming they won't be spending what they don't earn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobbySol 7 Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 There's no chance Chelsea will sell Kalou. I think there's every chance. Not much of one that we'd be the club he'd end up at though. We're in desperate need of two decent strikers, two decent midfielders and a decent left back and centre half. That's just to consolidate mid table which is depressing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabit71 0 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 jarvis is a good shout. mulumbu from west brom ridgewell from brum o'hara going further than that i really couldnt tell you, most players i fancy from europe will be in european football next year. no idea for a striker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 I bet we don't use the Carroll money as effectively as Liverpool did the Torres money. I don't think they did use it effectively, especially when they're unlikely to have a big warchest to strengthen their defence and midfield. They could have done much much more with £50million. The only thing that is commendable is that they didn't let Torres go without having a replacement, but in terms of using the money effectively I don't think they have. I'd say bringing in Suarez and Carroll is using it effectively. They'll give them a big edge compared to in the past few seasons when they've been massively over-reliant on Torres. More effectively than we'll use the Carroll money anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 What about that Jarvis lad from Wolves for a winger? I'll be honest ive never seen much of him, but whenever pundits etc go on about Wolves he always seems to get a mention, anyone know much of him and if he's alright? I think he's a good player but it will take a lot more than that to convince me anything other than the club is in decline. In fact, why would he want to leave Wolves for NUFC may be what he thinks, especially when Enrique leaves and Barton makes his dissatisfaction with the club known publicly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 What about that Jarvis lad from Wolves for a winger? I'll be honest ive never seen much of him, but whenever pundits etc go on about Wolves he always seems to get a mention, anyone know much of him and if he's alright? I think he's a good player but it will take a lot more than that to convince me anything other than the club is in decline. In fact, why would he want to leave Wolves for NUFC may be what he thinks, especially when Enrique leaves and Barton makes his dissatisfaction with the club known publicly. Don't worry i wasn't saying the club was on the up far from it, i'm probably the most pessimistic fan about, i was just throwing his name in and see what people thought of him and if we should get him. I've done the old Dennis Wise scouting technique and watched a few videos on the net of him and he's a got a hell of a lot pace about him and from the games ive seen of him, he does the total opposite of what Jonas does and runs at the defence with a bit of meaning to it and when he gets the chance to cross he actually does and doesnt faff on and let the attack fizzle out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 3124 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Next season's best XI with no new signings or players sold: Forster Simpson Colo S.Taylor Enrique Tiote Barton Jonas Ben Arfa Nolan Best So we need a backup lefback (youngster), backup centreback (youngster), backup centre mid (Dorrans), backup right and left winger (N'Zogbia? & Larsson), backup attacking mid (Ireland?), and a replacement for Best and a backup (Gervinho? & youngster). So that would be Dorrans, N'Zogbia, Larsson and Ireland to compete for first team position and Gervinho to replace Best, plus some decent young fringe players at the back and front. Can't see it happening but that would be ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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