jaythesouthernmag 0 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 So we'll get double the money in the summer. Great! I really REALLY just don't get this mindset My first thought was exactly the same as Isegrim -I wish I had your ability to see the best in Ashley Remind me how long ago Carroll signed his new contract again He did sign a new one recently but there's not many people who think the club were wrong to sell him for 35 mil, the timing was shit and as long as its reinvested then its good business. As for Tiote it shows he's happy here but everyone has a price. Let's not get negative, one of our best players has just signed a new contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4711 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 The Carroll deal was utterly obscene. I personally would have sold him for £30 million up front, plus £5 million at a later date, plus a 25% sell on clause. You can't really blame Ashley for that. If we get a similar offer for Tiote chances are we probably would accept it too, not because the FCB is trying to fuck us over but because making £70 million on two players which cost around £3 million for us is the type of deal that is near enough impossible to turn down. Thankfully I don't currently think anyone would match the valuation the club will put on him. While contracts nowadays are all about making sure club and player profit in the event of a transfer rather than commitment the Carroll situation isn't that common. And nowt wrong with that in the financial world we now live in. If a player does leave, we might as well get as much as we can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4711 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 So we'll get double the money in the summer. Great! I really REALLY just don't get this mindset My first thought was exactly the same as Isegrim -I wish I had your ability to see the best in Ashley Remind me how long ago Carroll signed his new contract again It's not about seeing good in Ashley at all. Firstly - Carroll signed a new deal in October and then 3 months later wanted a new one or he was offski. What's not to like about this deal, really??? IF a champions league level teams comes in for a player you're basically fucked anyway, that's a fact of life in the modern game. What this deal means is that IF someone is/was considering making an offer they'd better have VERY deep pockets because he's going to cost a shedload of cash. It's a reasonable deterent unless silly money's on the table. Silly money as in £35 mill for Carroll. To me it says we don't want to sell, unless you knock our socks off, which is how it should be. Would it have been better to leave it be ?? Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 So we'll get double the money in the summer. Great! Indeed we will. Sign them up to long term contracts and then you can demand a bigger transfer fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4711 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Aye, putting Ashley etc to one side, big congrats to the lad for signing when all around him are stalling and his agent must know the big boys would be sniffing in the summer. Well done Tiote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9737 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Where did I say that I do not like the deal or that it is not a good thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaythesouthernmag 0 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Aye, putting Ashley etc to one side, big congrats to the lad for signing when all around him are stalling and his agent must know the big boys would be sniffing in the summer. Well done Tiote. Agree mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Where did I say that I do not like the deal or that it is not a good thing? Ooooooooh. Don't try and pull any of your 'lost in translation' shit, Wolfman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 9298 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 So we'll get double the money in the summer. Great! Indeed we will. Sign them up to long term contracts and then you can demand a bigger transfer fee. Which narrows down the number of potential suitors to those you can do fuck all about anyway and even then it's gonna cost them and maybe make them think twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7009 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Nailed on he will be sold in the summer now. Wise up people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwynuk42NUFC 0 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Do you think this might help Barton and enrique to sign new deals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 So we'll get double the money in the summer. Great! Indeed we will. Sign them up to long term contracts and then you can demand a bigger transfer fee. Which narrows down the number of potential suitors to those you can do fuck all about anyway and even then it's gonna cost them and maybe make them think twice. So you don't deny that's FMA's intentions then? Seriously man you need to give your head a shake. Those that are likely to come in for him are the clubs occupying the top 6 places. And not one of them will think twice about financial outlay if they feel he'll vastly improve their squad. I can honestly see Man Utd interested in him given the state of their central midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4711 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Barton could be a gonner. Tiote in the middle and then we potentially have Bena Arfa, Nolan, Gosling, Ireland and any identified incomings to fit into that team. Hope he's not like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 9298 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Nailed on he will be sold in the summer now. Wise up people Only if the fee's exhorbitant and a top of the tree team has a need in that position. Seriously, what part of the way the modern pecking order works, don't you get ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwynuk42NUFC 0 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Barton could be a gonner. Tiote in the middle and then we potentially have Bena Arfa, Nolan, Gosling, Ireland and any identified incomings to fit into that team. Hope he's not like. Nah i think Barton will stay but i fear Enrique will go i am now fearing that . but i hope i am wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LeazesLad Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 As I said this means fuck all, absolute typical Ashley manoeveur, get a front man to shout the fanfare for something that in the grand scheme of things means nothing. At the end of the season Tiote, would've had two years on his deal, now it's going to be five, and as we all know the longer a contract the higher the likelyhood of a high fee. He got Hughton and Llambias to shout from the roof tops about it: Friday 8th October Newcastle managing director Derek Llambias was equally thrilled with the 21-year-old's new deal. He said: "We're dedicated to bringing exciting young players through our youth academy to play for the club. "Andy Carroll certainly fits that bill, having graduated through the ranks here, and we're extremely pleased to have agreed with him a new long-term deal. "Players like Andy are the future of this club and we have spent a long time putting together a deal that is right for both him and Newcastle United." 31st January 2011 Newcastle United have sold Andy Carroll to Liverpool in a record £35m deal. My pro Ashley mate on the text already "great news for NUFC this" pipe down #naivemugs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4711 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 So we'll get double the money in the summer. Great! Indeed we will. Sign them up to long term contracts and then you can demand a bigger transfer fee. Which narrows down the number of potential suitors to those you can do fuck all about anyway and even then it's gonna cost them and maybe make them think twice. So you don't deny that's FMA's intentions then? Seriously man you need to give your head a shake. Those that are likely to come in for him are the clubs occupying the top 6 places. And not one of them will think twice about financial outlay if they feel he'll vastly improve their squad. I can honestly see Man Utd interested in him given the state of their central midfield. Still the right move for the club though Craig. Toonpack is correct when he says their is little you can do if silly money and champions league clubs come knocking. At the very least you want to make sure if that happens we get the best price possible surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 So we'll get double the money in the summer. Great! Indeed we will. Sign them up to long term contracts and then you can demand a bigger transfer fee. Which narrows down the number of potential suitors to those you can do fuck all about anyway and even then it's gonna cost them and maybe make them think twice. So you don't deny that's FMA's intentions then? Seriously man you need to give your head a shake. Those that are likely to come in for him are the clubs occupying the top 6 places. And not one of them will think twice about financial outlay if they feel he'll vastly improve their squad. I can honestly see Man Utd interested in him given the state of their central midfield. Fergie fancies Rodwell and he'll be much easier to twock from Everton than Tiote would be from us now he's signed this new deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 So we'll get double the money in the summer. Great! Indeed we will. Sign them up to long term contracts and then you can demand a bigger transfer fee. Which narrows down the number of potential suitors to those you can do fuck all about anyway and even then it's gonna cost them and maybe make them think twice. So you don't deny that's FMA's intentions then? Seriously man you need to give your head a shake. Those that are likely to come in for him are the clubs occupying the top 6 places. And not one of them will think twice about financial outlay if they feel he'll vastly improve their squad. I can honestly see Man Utd interested in him given the state of their central midfield. Still the right move for the club though Craig. Toonpack is correct when he says their is little you can do if silly money and champions league clubs come knocking. At the very least you want to make sure if that happens we get the best price possible surely. I never thought I'd say this but I agree with CT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaythesouthernmag 0 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Barton could be a gonner. Tiote in the middle and then we potentially have Bena Arfa, Nolan, Gosling, Ireland and any identified incomings to fit into that team. Hope he's not like. Hope not, as for Ireland I want to see him play. When's he due back?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwynuk42NUFC 0 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Barton could be a gonner. Tiote in the middle and then we potentially have Bena Arfa, Nolan, Gosling, Ireland and any identified incomings to fit into that team. Hope he's not like. Hope not, as for Ireland I want to see him play. When's he due back?? Sometime in March he said not sure what game he has penciled in yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4711 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 As I said this means fuck all, absolute typical Ashley manoeveur, get a front man to shout the fanfare for something that in the grand scheme of things means nothing. At the end of the season Tiote, would've had two years on his deal, now it's going to be five, and as we all know the longer a contract the higher the likelyhood of a high fee. He got Hughton and Llambias to shout from the roof tops about it: Friday 8th October Newcastle managing director Derek Llambias was equally thrilled with the 21-year-old's new deal. He said: "We're dedicated to bringing exciting young players through our youth academy to play for the club. "Andy Carroll certainly fits that bill, having graduated through the ranks here, and we're extremely pleased to have agreed with him a new long-term deal. "Players like Andy are the future of this club and we have spent a long time putting together a deal that is right for both him and Newcastle United." 31st January 2011 Newcastle United have sold Andy Carroll to Liverpool in a record £35m deal. My pro Ashley mate on the text already "great news for NUFC this" pipe down #naivemugs But you were the first one to say you would have taken the Carroll money. This is good news whether it means Tiote staying longer or whether it means a higher fee if he is sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 So we'll get double the money in the summer. Great! Indeed we will. Sign them up to long term contracts and then you can demand a bigger transfer fee. Which narrows down the number of potential suitors to those you can do fuck all about anyway and even then it's gonna cost them and maybe make them think twice. So you don't deny that's FMA's intentions then? Seriously man you need to give your head a shake. Those that are likely to come in for him are the clubs occupying the top 6 places. And not one of them will think twice about financial outlay if they feel he'll vastly improve their squad. I can honestly see Man Utd interested in him given the state of their central midfield. Still the right move for the club though Craig. Toonpack is correct when he says their is little you can do if silly money and champions league clubs come knocking. At the very least you want to make sure if that happens we get the best price possible surely. Agree from that POV but that doesn't hide the fact that it's there's massive piece of propaganda from the club'. Giving it all the "we're ensuring Cheik remains here for the next 7 years". That's not true at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Like a new signing etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LeazesLad Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 As I said this means fuck all, absolute typical Ashley manoeveur, get a front man to shout the fanfare for something that in the grand scheme of things means nothing. At the end of the season Tiote, would've had two years on his deal, now it's going to be five, and as we all know the longer a contract the higher the likelyhood of a high fee. He got Hughton and Llambias to shout from the roof tops about it: Friday 8th October Newcastle managing director Derek Llambias was equally thrilled with the 21-year-old's new deal. He said: "We're dedicated to bringing exciting young players through our youth academy to play for the club. "Andy Carroll certainly fits that bill, having graduated through the ranks here, and we're extremely pleased to have agreed with him a new long-term deal. "Players like Andy are the future of this club and we have spent a long time putting together a deal that is right for both him and Newcastle United." 31st January 2011 Newcastle United have sold Andy Carroll to Liverpool in a record £35m deal. My pro Ashley mate on the text already "great news for NUFC this" pipe down #naivemugs But you were the first one to say you would have taken the Carroll money. This is good news whether it means Tiote staying longer or whether it means a higher fee if he is sold. ...and I stand by that, but the club always had an agenda once they realised his market value. The only positives about this Tiote deal are, he gets a pay rise which no one at the club deserves more, and two if we can get through the summer with him still here, there's hope that an ambitious owner may come in and have the ambition to keep him whatever the cost because of the longer contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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