Not claiming this as ITK

[PaddockLad 17646]

Been done to death but there should have been a plan in place to replace a man that age. And if that Wolves game was so instrumental in his going how come he didn't go until after our (almost customary, under SBR) bad start to the season? The whole way it is portrayed so often is incorrect - i.e. ungrateful Newcastle fans forced out an honourable gentleman and subsequently got what they deserved. The reality was more like the regime probably knew he'd lost the players and (to an extent) the fans. We were pretty insipid at times the year we came 5th and the players looked like they'd lost some of the belief in the manager. However, I think the board were a little too concerned with looking bad and getting rid of Robson in the summer and pounced on what they saw as an opportunity to sack him when we had a bad start the following season. The lack of foresight in that move led to Souness coming and all the good work of the previous 5 years being undone.

 

Well you've just subsequently answered that yourself...I was just repeating what he said in his book.He felt that we undermined him that day, and Shepherd was doing the same behind the scenes, because he didnt want to seen to be the one who shot Bambi as it were.

 

As you say. done to death, but I think all our subsequent problems can be traced back to August bank holiday monday 2004.

[Guest alex]

Been done to death but there should have been a plan in place to replace a man that age. And if that Wolves game was so instrumental in his going how come he didn't go until after our (almost customary, under SBR) bad start to the season? The whole way it is portrayed so often is incorrect - i.e. ungrateful Newcastle fans forced out an honourable gentleman and subsequently got what they deserved. The reality was more like the regime probably knew he'd lost the players and (to an extent) the fans. We were pretty insipid at times the year we came 5th and the players looked like they'd lost some of the belief in the manager. However, I think the board were a little too concerned with looking bad and getting rid of Robson in the summer and pounced on what they saw as an opportunity to sack him when we had a bad start the following season. The lack of foresight in that move led to Souness coming and all the good work of the previous 5 years being undone.

 

Well you've just subsequently answered that yourself...I was just repeating what he said in his book.He felt that we undermined him that day, and Shepherd was doing the same behind the scenes, because he didnt want to seen to be the one who shot Bambi as it were.

 

As you say. done to death, but I think all our subsequent problems can be traced back to August bank holiday monday 2004.

The point I was making is that you can't pin too much on that game. I think perhaps Robson does in his book (I haven't read it in fairness though) as it glosses over some of the blame he had to take for what had happened at the club. I don't mean this to be an attack on the bloke because I have nothing but admiration for him but I think it's a bit lazy to attach too much significance to a poor crowd for an end of season lap of honour.

[LeazesMag 0]

Half the country call our relationship with Sir Bobby in question anyway, saying we hounded him out etc etc.

Well we did....

 

Speak for yourself mate....you're guilty of doing what the press do and lumping us all in together as we're the fuckin borg from star trek or something and we all think exactly alike.

 

Some wanted rid of Robson, chiefly Freddy fuckin Shpeherd.

 

Some were quite vocal on this and Shpherd listened to them and sacked him without having a successor lined up.

 

As far as I could make out most were a bit on the diasappointed side at finsihing 5th and not winning the UEFA cup. And there were concerns about the behaviour of the players. But wasnt the best, most qualified man to turn that round already in the job?

 

normally quite good, but - omg

 

How do you know they [the Halls and Shepherd] had nobody lined up ?

 

Do you understand the expectation change with regard to the bold bit and your comment "Freddie fuckin Shepherd" [ie the Halls and Shepherd anyway]. ?

[LeazesMag 0]

Been done to death but there should have been a plan in place to replace a man that age. And if that Wolves game was so instrumental in his going how come he didn't go until after our (almost customary, under SBR) bad start to the season? The whole way it is portrayed so often is incorrect - i.e. ungrateful Newcastle fans forced out an honourable gentleman and subsequently got what they deserved. The reality was more like the regime probably knew he'd lost the players and (to an extent) the fans. We were pretty insipid at times the year we came 5th and the players looked like they'd lost some of the belief in the manager. However, I think the board were a little too concerned with looking bad and getting rid of Robson in the summer and pounced on what they saw as an opportunity to sack him when we had a bad start the following season. The lack of foresight in that move led to Souness coming and all the good work of the previous 5 years being undone.

 

pretty spot on really. But they did have someone lined up Alex We've been through this......

[Monroe Transfer 0]

Souness?

[Anorthernsoul 1221]

A nice touch if true.