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I'll reply to the crock of shit you have posted later cos I'm on my phone, but how do you feelin about freds man big Sam backing the Carroll sale?

 

just don't derail the thread again :lol:

 

It's relevant, you going to answer?

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Last years accounts are due soon aren't they?

 

I think they'll show that all he has done to put us on a stable financial footing is reduce the wage bill and transfer outgoings. Anyone with half a brain could have come in and taken an axe to the squad/staff as he has.

 

They'll also show crowds down, sponsorship down, advertising down, merchandise down, corporate sales down, TV revenue down, overall income down (or should I say losses up) and total debt up.

 

 

This point that keeps getting wheeled out, again by Llambias today, that he's never taken a penny out of the club. Has this ever being nailed as a fact, a lie or is it all smoke and mirrors.

 

I'm not sure but I know he has changed the terms of his loan from being repayable on sale to being repayable on demand i.e. he could now pull the plug at any moment he wanted.

 

 

I'm sure last years accounts showed that he'd taken out a few million....couldn't fathom why he'd do it when we still had an overdraft/debt that we're paying interest on.

 

I can't see anything in the accounts to say that, in fact his loan increased in 08/09.

 

Our loans to him were up to £112 million at one point during the year but ended at the £111 million. Either he was paid back a million or it was written off.....which I'm sure he'd be bragging about.

Rounding error?

 

Bloody accountants.

 

Last years numbers shamelessly stolen from Quayside's summary on N-O

 

The highlights:

 

Turnover was only £86 million (all 3 areas of revenue matchday, media and commercial were down on the previous year)

 

Wages (including Keegan's £2.2m payoff) £73m

 

Profit on transfers £23m

 

Other costs £51m

 

Therefore the Loss = £15m so it was an improvement on 2008 but, due to the fall in turnover, not a massive one.

 

As at 30th June Ashley had loaned £111m making his investment a total of £247m. He took no money out in interest. At one point in the year his loan was up to £112m. Not surprisingly, as the club is technically insolvent by £51m, he was required to give a personal guarantee to satisfy the going concern status.

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I'll reply to the crock of shit you have posted later cos I'm on my phone, but how do you feelin about freds man big Sam backing the Carroll sale?

 

just don't derail the thread again :icon_lol:

 

Derailing the thread would be posting unrelated links to borderline illegal teenage gay porn that you "just happen to have stumbled across" while smurfing the net. :lol: As for the question, care to answer it?

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I'll reply to the crock of shit you have posted later cos I'm on my phone, but how do you feelin about freds man big Sam backing the Carroll sale?

 

just don't derail the thread again :icon_lol:

 

Derailing the thread would be posting unrelated links to borderline illegal teenage gay porn that you "just happen to have stumbled across" while smurfing the net. :lol: As for the question, care to answer it?

 

fuck off you stupid twat

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I'll reply to the crock of shit you have posted later cos I'm on my phone, but how do you feelin about freds man big Sam backing the Carroll sale?

 

just don't derail the thread again :icon_lol:

 

Derailing the thread would be posting unrelated links to borderline illegal teenage gay porn that you "just happen to have stumbled across" while smurfing the net. :lol: As for the question, care to answer it?

 

fuck off you stupid twat

 

Stop derailing the thread

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When the going gets tough, leazesmag gets going

 

what do I think of Allardyce backing Carrolls sale ? What sort of question is that, what does it matter :lol: What do I think of idiots like you criticising people who ran a football club that qualified for europe more than any club bar 4 over a period of 15 years, then you back someone who runs the club down and relegates it ?

 

Priceless.

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I'll reply to the crock of shit you have posted later cos I'm on my phone, but how do you feelin about freds man big Sam backing the Carroll sale?

 

just don't derail the thread again :icon_lol:

 

Derailing the thread would be posting unrelated links to borderline illegal teenage gay porn that you "just happen to have stumbled across" while smurfing the net. :lol: As for the question, care to answer it?

 

fuck off you stupid twat

 

Stop derailing the thread

 

I've answered his question. Are you hoping your friends will jump in here and defend your corner for you again :)

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I'll reply to the crock of shit you have posted later cos I'm on my phone, but how do you feelin about freds man big Sam backing the Carroll sale?

 

just don't derail the thread again :)

 

Derailing the thread would be posting unrelated links to borderline illegal teenage gay porn that you "just happen to have stumbled across" while smurfing the net. :lol: As for the question, care to answer it?

 

fuck off you stupid twat

 

Stop derailing the thread

 

I've answered his question. Are you hoping your friends will jump in here and defend your corner for you again :(

 

I realise the concept of people liking you is entirely alien to you, but you still haven't answered the question. Try again. :icon_lol:

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I'll reply to the crock of shit you have posted later cos I'm on my phone, but how do you feelin about freds man big Sam backing the Carroll sale?

 

just don't derail the thread again :)

 

Derailing the thread would be posting unrelated links to borderline illegal teenage gay porn that you "just happen to have stumbled across" while smurfing the net. :lol: As for the question, care to answer it?

 

fuck off you stupid twat

 

Stop derailing the thread

 

I've answered his question. Are you hoping your friends will jump in here and defend your corner for you again :(

 

I realise the concept of people liking you is entirely alien to you, but you still haven't answered the question. Try again. :icon_lol:

 

Are you trying to gain the affections of skidders or something :(

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I'll reply to the crock of shit you have posted later cos I'm on my phone, but how do you feelin about freds man big Sam backing the Carroll sale?

 

just don't derail the thread again :)

 

Derailing the thread would be posting unrelated links to borderline illegal teenage gay porn that you "just happen to have stumbled across" while smurfing the net. :lol: As for the question, care to answer it?

 

fuck off you stupid twat

 

Stop derailing the thread

 

I've answered his question. Are you hoping your friends will jump in here and defend your corner for you again :(

 

I realise the concept of people liking you is entirely alien to you, but you still haven't answered the question. Try again. :icon_lol:

 

Are you trying to gain the affections of skidders or something :(

 

I've tried, but he's more interested in the gay porn links you constantly post. :( Now about that question he asked?

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When the going gets tough, leazesmag gets going

 

what do I think of Allardyce backing Carrolls sale ? What sort of question is that, what does it matter :lol: What do I think of idiots like you criticising people who ran a football club that qualified for europe more than any club bar 4 over a period of 15 years, then you back someone who runs the club down and relegates it ?

 

Priceless.

 

 

Priceless :icon_lol: Revert to default quote. The fact is, you refer to basement bargain signings and how we can't be successful with them - I've pointed out that the old board had resorted to this already before they left. Rossi, Sibierski, bernard etc etc. The old board did this because the money had ran out, they'd made the investment/gamble to get back into europe, and it didn't pay off. This is why they high-tailed out of town at first opportunity.

 

Mike Ashley came in and spent money, made mistakes, fell out with the fans, and stopped bankrolling new signings. So the club was then to rely on it's own finances, as it did with the old board . Relying on it's own finances was not a good place to be, because as the old board proved in their last transfer windows, there was very little money to spend.

 

Why can you not see this?

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Are you going to answer my question? It matters because you claim we are a selling club, but the fact is that if Shepherd was still in charge with the manager he'd appointed, then Allardyce admits that that kind of money is too good to turn down. Therefore indicating that he would have been sold. I'll break it down a little more. We'd have also been a selling club if Carroll had been sold for £35m under Shepherd/Allardyce, by your logic.

 

 

What do you think about this?

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When the going gets tough, leazesmag gets going

 

what do I think of Allardyce backing Carrolls sale ? What sort of question is that, what does it matter :lol: What do I think of idiots like you criticising people who ran a football club that qualified for europe more than any club bar 4 over a period of 15 years, then you back someone who runs the club down and relegates it ?

 

Priceless.

 

 

Priceless :icon_lol: Revert to default quote. The fact is, you refer to basement bargain signings and how we can't be successful with them - I've pointed out that the old board had resorted to this already before they left. Rossi, Sibierski, bernard etc etc. The old board did this because the money had ran out, they'd made the investment/gamble to get back into europe, and it didn't pay off. This is why they high-tailed out of town at first opportunity.

 

Mike Ashley came in and spent money, made mistakes, fell out with the fans, and stopped bankrolling new signings. So the club was then to rely on it's own finances, as it did with the old board . Relying on it's own finances was not a good place to be, because as the old board proved in their last transfer windows, there was very little money to spend.

 

Why can you not see this?

 

Take that LM.

 

Well said skid

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why don't admin create a new forum just for leazes and skidmark to continue their never ending argument so they can leave us all to get on with it without reading the same old drivel from them in every fucking thread they post in? beyond tiresome :lol:

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why don't admin create a new forum just for leazes and skidmark to continue their never ending argument so they can leave us all to get on with it without reading the same old drivel from them in every fucking thread they post in? beyond tiresome :lol:

 

It's not even an argument, he's arguing with himself. I'm not claiming that getting into europe often wasn't commendable. I'm merely pointing out to him that we were paying the cost for dropping out of europe and gambling to try and get back into it long before Ashley arrived.

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I'll reply to the crock of shit you have posted later cos I'm on my phone, but how do you feelin about freds man big Sam backing the Carroll sale?

 

just don't derail the thread again :)

 

Derailing the thread would be posting unrelated links to borderline illegal teenage gay porn that you "just happen to have stumbled across" while smurfing the net. :lol: As for the question, care to answer it?

 

fuck off you stupid twat

 

Stop derailing the thread

 

I've answered his question. Are you hoping your friends will jump in here and defend your corner for you again :(

 

I realise the concept of people liking you is entirely alien to you , but you still haven't answered the question. Try again. :icon_lol:

 

Are you trying to gain the affections of skidders or something :(

 

I've tried, but he's more interested in the gay porn links you constantly post. :( Now about that question he asked?

 

ref your earlier comment ie the bit in bold, I don't particularly like pricks like you who think they are somebody else's fairy godmother.

 

His question is stupid, like him, I don't give a toss what Sam Allardyce thinks of the sale of Andy Carroll and neither should anybody else. More to the point, what does Skidmarks think of it, as he was getting his knickers in a right old twist and slating anybody who even suggested it could happen ? What does he think of his man now ? Still think he will ever qualify for the Champions League and europe regularly like the previous regime ?

 

My views on Stable Financial Footing in football are well documented. What are yours ? Answer the question and stop derailing the thread to bum lick somebody.

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When the going gets tough, leazesmag gets going

 

what do I think of Allardyce backing Carrolls sale ? What sort of question is that, what does it matter :lol: What do I think of idiots like you criticising people who ran a football club that qualified for europe more than any club bar 4 over a period of 15 years, then you back someone who runs the club down and relegates it ?

 

Priceless.

 

 

Priceless :icon_lol: Revert to default quote. The fact is, you refer to basement bargain signings and how we can't be successful with them - I've pointed out that the old board had resorted to this already before they left. Rossi, Sibierski, bernard etc etc. The old board did this because the money had ran out, they'd made the investment/gamble to get back into europe, and it didn't pay off. This is why they high-tailed out of town at first opportunity.

 

Mike Ashley came in and spent money, made mistakes, fell out with the fans, and stopped bankrolling new signings. So the club was then to rely on it's own finances, as it did with the old board . Relying on it's own finances was not a good place to be, because as the old board proved in their last transfer windows, there was very little money to spend.

 

Why can you not see this?

 

Take that LM.

 

Well said skid

 

you are as stupid as him, are you also his fairy godmother :) Fact is, the club bought in players like Rossi and Sibierski when the transfer budget, which was a good one in keeping with the stature of NUFC, had been spent by the manager concerned.

 

Fact. So "take that" shitforbrains :(

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I'll reply to the crock of shit you have posted later cos I'm on my phone, but how do you feelin about freds man big Sam backing the Carroll sale?

 

just don't derail the thread again :)

 

Derailing the thread would be posting unrelated links to borderline illegal teenage gay porn that you "just happen to have stumbled across" while smurfing the net. :lol: As for the question, care to answer it?

 

fuck off you stupid twat

 

Stop derailing the thread

 

I've answered his question. Are you hoping your friends will jump in here and defend your corner for you again :(

 

I realise the concept of people liking you is entirely alien to you , but you still haven't answered the question. Try again. :icon_lol:

 

Are you trying to gain the affections of skidders or something :(

 

I've tried, but he's more interested in the gay porn links you constantly post. :( Now about that question he asked?

 

ref your earlier comment ie the bit in bold, I don't particularly like pricks like you who think they are somebody else's fairy godmother.

 

His question is stupid, like him, I don't give a toss what Sam Allardyce thinks of the sale of Andy Carroll and neither should anybody else. More to the point, what does Skidmarks think of it, as he was getting his knickers in a right old twist and slating anybody who even suggested it could happen ? What does he think of his man now ? Still think he will ever qualify for the Champions League and europe regularly like the previous regime ?

 

My views on Stable Financial Footing in football are well documented. What are yours ? Answer the question and stop derailing the thread to bum lick somebody.

 

Still no quotes on that one Leazes, you've ignored multiple requests for one too. Go drink your 3.8% beer and yell at clouds. You're a fucking tragedy.

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When the going gets tough, leazesmag gets going

 

what do I think of Allardyce backing Carrolls sale ? What sort of question is that, what does it matter :lol: What do I think of idiots like you criticising people who ran a football club that qualified for europe more than any club bar 4 over a period of 15 years, then you back someone who runs the club down and relegates it ?

 

Priceless.

 

 

Priceless :icon_lol: Revert to default quote. The fact is, you refer to basement bargain signings and how we can't be successful with them - I've pointed out that the old board had resorted to this already before they left. Rossi, Sibierski, bernard etc etc. The old board did this because the money had ran out, they'd made the investment/gamble to get back into europe, and it didn't pay off. This is why they high-tailed out of town at first opportunity.

 

Mike Ashley came in and spent money, made mistakes, fell out with the fans, and stopped bankrolling new signings. So the club was then to rely on it's own finances, as it did with the old board . Relying on it's own finances was not a good place to be, because as the old board proved in their last transfer windows, there was very little money to spend.

 

Why can you not see this?

 

Take that LM.

 

Well said skid

 

you are as stupid as him, are you also his fairy godmother :( Fact is, the club bought in players like Rossi and Sibierski when the transfer budget, which was a good one in keeping with the stature of NUFC, had been spent by the manager concerned.

 

Fact. So "take that" shitforbrains :(

 

 

So how's that different from what Ashley does? :) Hughton spent his transfer budget on Tiote and then, as the transfer budget had been spent by the manager concerned, loaned Ben Arfa. :(

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When the going gets tough, leazesmag gets going

 

what do I think of Allardyce backing Carrolls sale ? What sort of question is that, what does it matter :icon_lol: What do I think of idiots like you criticising people who ran a football club that qualified for europe more than any club bar 4 over a period of 15 years, then you back someone who runs the club down and relegates it ?

 

Priceless.

 

 

Priceless :) Revert to default quote. The fact is, you refer to basement bargain signings and how we can't be successful with them - I've pointed out that the old board had resorted to this already before they left. Rossi, Sibierski, bernard etc etc. The old board did this because the money had ran out, they'd made the investment/gamble to get back into europe, and it didn't pay off. This is why they high-tailed out of town at first opportunity.

 

Mike Ashley came in and spent money, made mistakes, fell out with the fans, and stopped bankrolling new signings. So the club was then to rely on it's own finances, as it did with the old board . Relying on it's own finances was not a good place to be, because as the old board proved in their last transfer windows, there was very little money to spend.

 

Why can you not see this?

 

Take that LM.

 

Well said skid

 

you are as stupid as him, are you also his fairy godmother :( Fact is, the club bought in players like Rossi and Sibierski when the transfer budget, which was a good one in keeping with the stature of NUFC, had been spent by the manager concerned.

 

Fact. So "take that" shitforbrains :(

 

 

So how's that different from what Ashley does? :( Hughton spent his transfer budget on Tiote and then, as the transfer budget had been spent by the manager concerned, loaned Ben Arfa. :nufc:

 

because its a shit budget in keeping with the likes of Bolton etc and he has made profits in the transfer markets and his actions are causing revenues to fall.

 

Someone else explain this to this fool. :lol:

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I'll reply to the crock of shit you have posted later cos I'm on my phone, but how do you feelin about freds man big Sam backing the Carroll sale?

 

just don't derail the thread again :)

 

Derailing the thread would be posting unrelated links to borderline illegal teenage gay porn that you "just happen to have stumbled across" while smurfing the net. :lol: As for the question, care to answer it?

 

fuck off you stupid twat

 

Stop derailing the thread

 

I've answered his question. Are you hoping your friends will jump in here and defend your corner for you again :(

 

I realise the concept of people liking you is entirely alien to you , but you still haven't answered the question. Try again. :icon_lol:

 

Are you trying to gain the affections of skidders or something :(

 

I've tried, but he's more interested in the gay porn links you constantly post. :nufc: Now about that question he asked?

 

ref your earlier comment ie the bit in bold, I don't particularly like pricks like you who think they are somebody else's fairy godmother.

 

His question is stupid, like him, I don't give a toss what Sam Allardyce thinks of the sale of Andy Carroll and neither should anybody else. More to the point, what does Skidmarks think of it, as he was getting his knickers in a right old twist and slating anybody who even suggested it could happen ? What does he think of his man now ? Still think he will ever qualify for the Champions League and europe regularly like the previous regime ?

 

My views on Stable Financial Footing in football are well documented. What are yours ? Answer the question and stop derailing the thread to bum lick somebody.

 

Still no quotes on that one Leazes, you've ignored multiple requests for one too. Go drink your 3.8% beer and yell at clouds. You're a fucking tragedy.

 

who cares what Allardyce thinks ? Why do you care ? You're a strange one lad, that's the best thing I can say about you :(

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I'll reply to the crock of shit you have posted later cos I'm on my phone, but how do you feelin about freds man big Sam backing the Carroll sale?

 

just don't derail the thread again :)

 

Derailing the thread would be posting unrelated links to borderline illegal teenage gay porn that you "just happen to have stumbled across" while smurfing the net. :lol: As for the question, care to answer it?

 

fuck off you stupid twat

 

Stop derailing the thread

 

I've answered his question. Are you hoping your friends will jump in here and defend your corner for you again :(

 

I realise the concept of people liking you is entirely alien to you , but you still haven't answered the question. Try again. :icon_lol:

 

Are you trying to gain the affections of skidders or something :(

 

I've tried, but he's more interested in the gay porn links you constantly post. :nufc: Now about that question he asked?

 

ref your earlier comment ie the bit in bold, I don't particularly like pricks like you who think they are somebody else's fairy godmother.

 

His question is stupid, like him, I don't give a toss what Sam Allardyce thinks of the sale of Andy Carroll and neither should anybody else. More to the point, what does Skidmarks think of it, as he was getting his knickers in a right old twist and slating anybody who even suggested it could happen ? What does he think of his man now ? Still think he will ever qualify for the Champions League and europe regularly like the previous regime ?

 

My views on Stable Financial Footing in football are well documented. What are yours ? Answer the question and stop derailing the thread to bum lick somebody.

 

Still no quotes on that one Leazes, you've ignored multiple requests for one too. Go drink your 3.8% beer and yell at clouds. You're a fucking tragedy.

 

who cares what Allardyce thinks ? Why do you care ? You're a strange one lad, that's the best thing I can say about you :(

 

Are you going to answer my question? It matters because you claim we are a selling club, but the fact is that if Shepherd was still in charge with the manager he'd appointed, then Allardyce admits that that kind of money is too good to turn down. Therefore indicating that he would have been sold. I'll break it down a little more. We'd have also been a selling club if Carroll had been sold for £35m under Shepherd/Allardyce, by your logic.

 

 

What do you think about this?

 

 

 

 

Oh, and STILL no quote?

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I'll reply to the crock of shit you have posted later cos I'm on my phone, but how do you feelin about freds man big Sam backing the Carroll sale?

 

just don't derail the thread again :)

 

Derailing the thread would be posting unrelated links to borderline illegal teenage gay porn that you "just happen to have stumbled across" while smurfing the net. :lol: As for the question, care to answer it?

 

fuck off you stupid twat

 

Stop derailing the thread

 

I've answered his question. Are you hoping your friends will jump in here and defend your corner for you again :(

 

I realise the concept of people liking you is entirely alien to you , but you still haven't answered the question. Try again. :icon_lol:

 

Are you trying to gain the affections of skidders or something :(

 

I've tried, but he's more interested in the gay porn links you constantly post. :lol: Now about that question he asked?

 

ref your earlier comment ie the bit in bold, I don't particularly like pricks like you who think they are somebody else's fairy godmother.

 

His question is stupid, like him, I don't give a toss what Sam Allardyce thinks of the sale of Andy Carroll and neither should anybody else. More to the point, what does Skidmarks think of it, as he was getting his knickers in a right old twist and slating anybody who even suggested it could happen ? What does he think of his man now ? Still think he will ever qualify for the Champions League and europe regularly like the previous regime ?

 

My views on Stable Financial Footing in football are well documented. What are yours ? Answer the question and stop derailing the thread to bum lick somebody.

 

Still no quotes on that one Leazes, you've ignored multiple requests for one too. Go drink your 3.8% beer and yell at clouds. You're a fucking tragedy.

 

who cares what Allardyce thinks ? Why do you care ? You're a strange one lad, that's the best thing I can say about you :(

 

Are you going to answer my question? It matters because you claim we are a selling club, but the fact is that if Shepherd was still in charge with the manager he'd appointed, then Allardyce admits that that kind of money is too good to turn down. Therefore indicating that he would have been sold. I'll break it down a little more. We'd have also been a selling club if Carroll had been sold for £35m under Shepherd/Allardyce, by your logic.

 

 

What do you think about this?

 

 

 

 

Oh, and STILL no quote?

 

fuckin hell. What does it matter what Allardyce thinks, how does he know someone else would have decided to sell ? You're an utter tool.

 

BTW, the record of the Halls and Shepherd suggests they would have recognised the need to build on players like Carroll, if you want to speculate look at their record while in charge. You're an utter tool.

 

What do you think of your previous claims that Ashley would not sell Carroll ? Answer the question, and your fairy godmother can answer too if he likes :nufc:

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