Stable Financial Footing

[Barney 0]

Haven't read the entire thread, but how much debt have we got?

 

I thought Ashley supposedly cleared the debt(according to Mort). Since then we've been relegated, but made £40m profit in the transfer market and removed HUGE earners wages from the bill. Ashley also supposedly paid off any outstanding transfers from the previous ownership.

 

Can anyone explain?

[Christmas Tree 4711]

Simple init

 

[Christmas Tree 4711]

Havent we been continually losing money, hence the much publicised extra money Ashley kept pumping in.

 

I would have though last seasons profit loss was again negative.

 

Survival this season you would have thought will see us turn the corner into profit, especially if the wage bill remains low.

 

I think Pardews interview this morning makes it pretty clear that our immediate future is all about survival and very modest player investment.

 

Our chances of success will likely depend more on the success of Graham Carr than anyone else at the club.

[Toonpack 9298]

This stable financial footing Ashley claims to be putting us on.

 

1. Do you believe it? i.e. that MA is working toward making NUFC more sustainable?

 

2. Will it be a platform to challenge or is it merely to engineer profit?

 

3. If the football bubble ever does burst (I don't think it will) will we really be in a better position to exploit the post-bubble neo-prem?

 

4. Once he has this stable footing, how many years of that before we will compete again, if ever? I mean how many years of uncompetitive stability before even the MA backers realise he is never going to show ambition or win anything, or will we actually push on and how long may that take?

 

5. What price do you think he would take for the club now? You have to factor in the ££££'s free advertising his company is getting too....how much for his international billboard? Is Sports Direct expanding internationally? That would make his continued 'sponsorship' highly valuable and very cheap.

 

6. And so we can have a laugh in September, what amount of £35m will be spent on transfer fees in the summer?

 

 

No guarantees, [with this man in charge] post guidelines/rules dictating what a club can spend to a limit [fees & wages] based on club income - particularly as to whether we'll receive a lift back towards the top pack, due to the top spenders being reigned in in accordance to the above mentioned guidelines.

 

Looking at how how the salary cap works in the United States [the NFL], some owners routinely operate well below the cap & profit gauge off of what the governing body equally allocates to each club ie. television revenue. Factor in gate receipts it can be quite a profitable enterprise for some club owners. Although it's an ever running battle, but the free agency market [as to what owners spend on top players when they become available], and how owners perpetually squeeze their wage bill into the cap is a calling card re:ambition, its the true yardstick of a club's ambition over in the States.

 

The antithesis to this being The Bidwells, in Pheonix, who for many years [pre: the new stadium years] were well known for their penny-pinching ways, and for a long time were relatively low spenders in the free agency market, and during such time were known as the joke & most unambitious club in it's league. They really made a mockery of the highly marketable Pacific-Mid West region for a long time.

 

I suspect Ashley will do the same, with smaller clubs [like the Wigans & the Brums etc.... with smaller spending caps/limits] actually trying harder to retain their respective premiership status', in terms of expenditure, as opposed to hoping for mere survival whilst running in theme to a business [or retail/corporate based] plan based around maintaining a skeletal budget [re; 1st team investment] & asset stripping.

 

I dissagree witha fair amount of that, sorry !!

 

As well as the upper cap, there is a mandated minimum spend. Well there was as the current CBA which has has run out, may be different if they get a new deal done. There are also dictated minimum salaries per position for veteran players.

 

The use of the cap comes down solely to how good your General Manager is in being able to retain good marquee players at reasonable salary mixed with young cheaper drafted talent.

 

The Packers for example are almost totally built through the draft and they use the cap to retain their developed blue chip players - when they can, the cap is designed so that a team can't just do a Man City and buy all the best, it's designed to ensure parity, all teams have an equal chance.

 

Use of the cap is nothing to do with "ambition" it's all about parity.

 

As an oposite to the Packers look at Minnesota, they use several very hign cost free agents (ambitious!!) mixed with a supporting cast of cheapo's - the were last in the Division, the Packers are in the Superbowl YAY !!!!!!!!!

Edited February 5, 2011 by Toonpack

[spongebob toonpants 3956]

Newcastle’s other top asset is Tiote, and asked about the prospect of keeping the bargain £3.5 million buy, Pardew said: “I am hoping there are no bids, otherwise we will have a problem. He is a very important player, very talented and someone we will embrace to be a big part of our future.”

 

We're fucked as a football team, but hey at least Skidders will be happy that Leazes will be pissed off

[Dolly Potter MD 0]

This stable financial footing Ashley claims to be putting us on.

 

1. Do you believe it? i.e. that MA is working toward making NUFC more sustainable?

 

2. Will it be a platform to challenge or is it merely to engineer profit?

 

3. If the football bubble ever does burst (I don't think it will) will we really be in a better position to exploit the post-bubble neo-prem?

 

4. Once he has this stable footing, how many years of that before we will compete again, if ever? I mean how many years of uncompetitive stability before even the MA backers realise he is never going to show ambition or win anything, or will we actually push on and how long may that take?

 

5. What price do you think he would take for the club now? You have to factor in the ££££'s free advertising his company is getting too....how much for his international billboard? Is Sports Direct expanding internationally? That would make his continued 'sponsorship' highly valuable and very cheap.

 

6. And so we can have a laugh in September, what amount of £35m will be spent on transfer fees in the summer?

 

 

No guarantees, [with this man in charge] post guidelines/rules dictating what a club can spend to a limit [fees & wages] based on club income - particularly as to whether we'll receive a lift back towards the top pack, due to the top spenders being reigned in in accordance to the above mentioned guidelines.

 

Looking at how how the salary cap works in the United States [the NFL], some owners routinely operate well below the cap & profit gauge off of what the governing body equally allocates to each club ie. television revenue. Factor in gate receipts it can be quite a profitable enterprise for some club owners. Although it's an ever running battle, but the free agency market [as to what owners spend on top players when they become available], and how owners perpetually squeeze their wage bill into the cap is a calling card re:ambition, its the true yardstick of a club's ambition over in the States.

 

The antithesis to this being The Bidwells, in Pheonix, who for many years [pre: the new stadium years] were well known for their penny-pinching ways, and for a long time were relatively low spenders in the free agency market, and during such time were known as the joke & most unambitious club in it's league. They really made a mockery of the highly marketable Pacific-Mid West region for a long time.

 

I suspect Ashley will do the same, with smaller clubs [like the Wigans & the Brums etc.... with smaller spending caps/limits] actually trying harder to retain their respective premiership status', in terms of expenditure, as opposed to hoping for mere survival whilst running in theme to a business [or retail/corporate based] plan based around maintaining a skeletal budget [re; 1st team investment] & asset stripping.

 

I dissagree witha fair amount of that, sorry !!

 

As well as the upper cap, there is a mandated minimum spend. Well there was as the current CBA which has has run out, may be different if they get a new deal done. There are also dictated minimum salaries per position for veteran players.

 

The use of the cap comes down solely to how good your General Manager is in being able to retain good marquee players at reasonable salary mixed with young cheaper drafted talent.

 

The Packers for example are almost totally built through the draft and they use the cap to retain their developed blue chip players - when they can, the cap is designed so that a team can't just do a Man City and buy all the best, it's designed to ensure parity, all teams have an equal chance.

 

Use of the cap is nothing to do with "ambition" it's all about parity.

 

As an oposite to the Packers look at Minnesota, they use several very hign cost free agents (ambitious!!) mixed with a supporting cast of cheapo's - the were last in the Division, the Packers are in the Superbowl YAY !!!!!!!!!

 

Re: the Packers, and your assertion they have built teams solely through the draft. Back in the 90's they paid big money [back then] to bring Reggie White over from Philadelphia, it was a big move back in the day. They built a defense around the bloke, a defense that dominated their division.

 

Ambition [through the use of the salary cap, and being able to stay within the upper limit] is measured by supplimenting a club's developing stars [acquired through the draft] with experienced stars purchased via the free agent market, during a club's so-called premiership window ie. as the youngsters near their peak abilities as a group, and as veterans retire. Many examples are too numerous to list, think Randy Moss to the Patriots to aid Brady in the passing game - it nearly delivered a perfect season.

[Toonpack 9298]

This stable financial footing Ashley claims to be putting us on.

 

1. Do you believe it? i.e. that MA is working toward making NUFC more sustainable?

 

2. Will it be a platform to challenge or is it merely to engineer profit?

 

3. If the football bubble ever does burst (I don't think it will) will we really be in a better position to exploit the post-bubble neo-prem?

 

4. Once he has this stable footing, how many years of that before we will compete again, if ever? I mean how many years of uncompetitive stability before even the MA backers realise he is never going to show ambition or win anything, or will we actually push on and how long may that take?

 

5. What price do you think he would take for the club now? You have to factor in the ££££'s free advertising his company is getting too....how much for his international billboard? Is Sports Direct expanding internationally? That would make his continued 'sponsorship' highly valuable and very cheap.

 

6. And so we can have a laugh in September, what amount of £35m will be spent on transfer fees in the summer?

 

 

No guarantees, [with this man in charge] post guidelines/rules dictating what a club can spend to a limit [fees & wages] based on club income - particularly as to whether we'll receive a lift back towards the top pack, due to the top spenders being reigned in in accordance to the above mentioned guidelines.

 

Looking at how how the salary cap works in the United States [the NFL], some owners routinely operate well below the cap & profit gauge off of what the governing body equally allocates to each club ie. television revenue. Factor in gate receipts it can be quite a profitable enterprise for some club owners. Although it's an ever running battle, but the free agency market [as to what owners spend on top players when they become available], and how owners perpetually squeeze their wage bill into the cap is a calling card re:ambition, its the true yardstick of a club's ambition over in the States.

 

The antithesis to this being The Bidwells, in Pheonix, who for many years [pre: the new stadium years] were well known for their penny-pinching ways, and for a long time were relatively low spenders in the free agency market, and during such time were known as the joke & most unambitious club in it's league. They really made a mockery of the highly marketable Pacific-Mid West region for a long time.

 

I suspect Ashley will do the same, with smaller clubs [like the Wigans & the Brums etc.... with smaller spending caps/limits] actually trying harder to retain their respective premiership status', in terms of expenditure, as opposed to hoping for mere survival whilst running in theme to a business [or retail/corporate based] plan based around maintaining a skeletal budget [re; 1st team investment] & asset stripping.

 

I dissagree witha fair amount of that, sorry !!

 

As well as the upper cap, there is a mandated minimum spend. Well there was as the current CBA which has has run out, may be different if they get a new deal done. There are also dictated minimum salaries per position for veteran players.

 

The use of the cap comes down solely to how good your General Manager is in being able to retain good marquee players at reasonable salary mixed with young cheaper drafted talent.

 

The Packers for example are almost totally built through the draft and they use the cap to retain their developed blue chip players - when they can, the cap is designed so that a team can't just do a Man City and buy all the best, it's designed to ensure parity, all teams have an equal chance.

 

Use of the cap is nothing to do with "ambition" it's all about parity.

 

As an oposite to the Packers look at Minnesota, they use several very hign cost free agents (ambitious!!) mixed with a supporting cast of cheapo's - the were last in the Division, the Packers are in the Superbowl YAY !!!!!!!!!

 

Re: the Packers, and your assertion they have built teams solely through the draft. Back in the 90's they paid big money [back then] to bring Reggie White over from Philadelphia, it was a big move back in the day. They built a defense around the bloke, a defense that dominated their division.

 

Ambition [through the use of the salary cap, and being able to stay within the upper limit] is measured by supplimenting a club's developing stars [acquired through the draft] with experienced stars purchased via the free agent market, during a club's so-called premiership window ie. as the youngsters near their peak abilities as a group, and as veterans retire. Many examples are too numerous to list, think Randy Moss to the Patriots to aid Brady in the passing game - it nearly delivered a perfect season.

 

 

Rules were a lot different in the 90's when Reggie signed and he put the D over the edge,but they already had some great players before Reggie came (Dotson, Butler etc). In truth the guy who won us the superbowl was probably Desmond Howard, a bargain basement street free agent, flashed for just that season then disappeared again. Moss wasn't a free agent as such, he was traded for (3rd or 4th round pick, can't exactly recall).

 

Teams lose BIG stars all the time because they can't afford or choose not to re-sign them because of the cap implications, Aaron Kampman last year for us for example. The top Marquee players who get to free agency rarely go to a major contender, Kampman went to Carolina !!! To use Carrol as an analogy, he was an RFA and we chose not to match what someone else was offering, so he went.

 

The Cap is a better illustration of what FCB is doing than of the opposite IMO.

[Dolly Potter MD 0]

This stable financial footing Ashley claims to be putting us on.

 

1. Do you believe it? i.e. that MA is working toward making NUFC more sustainable?

 

2. Will it be a platform to challenge or is it merely to engineer profit?

 

3. If the football bubble ever does burst (I don't think it will) will we really be in a better position to exploit the post-bubble neo-prem?

 

4. Once he has this stable footing, how many years of that before we will compete again, if ever? I mean how many years of uncompetitive stability before even the MA backers realise he is never going to show ambition or win anything, or will we actually push on and how long may that take?

 

5. What price do you think he would take for the club now? You have to factor in the ££££'s free advertising his company is getting too....how much for his international billboard? Is Sports Direct expanding internationally? That would make his continued 'sponsorship' highly valuable and very cheap.

 

6. And so we can have a laugh in September, what amount of £35m will be spent on transfer fees in the summer?

 

 

No guarantees, [with this man in charge] post guidelines/rules dictating what a club can spend to a limit [fees & wages] based on club income - particularly as to whether we'll receive a lift back towards the top pack, due to the top spenders being reigned in in accordance to the above mentioned guidelines.

 

Looking at how how the salary cap works in the United States [the NFL], some owners routinely operate well below the cap & profit gauge off of what the governing body equally allocates to each club ie. television revenue. Factor in gate receipts it can be quite a profitable enterprise for some club owners. Although it's an ever running battle, but the free agency market [as to what owners spend on top players when they become available], and how owners perpetually squeeze their wage bill into the cap is a calling card re:ambition, its the true yardstick of a club's ambition over in the States.

 

The antithesis to this being The Bidwells, in Pheonix, who for many years [pre: the new stadium years] were well known for their penny-pinching ways, and for a long time were relatively low spenders in the free agency market, and during such time were known as the joke & most unambitious club in it's league. They really made a mockery of the highly marketable Pacific-Mid West region for a long time.

 

I suspect Ashley will do the same, with smaller clubs [like the Wigans & the Brums etc.... with smaller spending caps/limits] actually trying harder to retain their respective premiership status', in terms of expenditure, as opposed to hoping for mere survival whilst running in theme to a business [or retail/corporate based] plan based around maintaining a skeletal budget [re; 1st team investment] & asset stripping.

 

I dissagree witha fair amount of that, sorry !!

 

As well as the upper cap, there is a mandated minimum spend. Well there was as the current CBA which has has run out, may be different if they get a new deal done. There are also dictated minimum salaries per position for veteran players.

 

The use of the cap comes down solely to how good your General Manager is in being able to retain good marquee players at reasonable salary mixed with young cheaper drafted talent.

 

The Packers for example are almost totally built through the draft and they use the cap to retain their developed blue chip players - when they can, the cap is designed so that a team can't just do a Man City and buy all the best, it's designed to ensure parity, all teams have an equal chance.

 

Use of the cap is nothing to do with "ambition" it's all about parity.

 

As an oposite to the Packers look at Minnesota, they use several very hign cost free agents (ambitious!!) mixed with a supporting cast of cheapo's - the were last in the Division, the Packers are in the Superbowl YAY !!!!!!!!!

 

Re: the Packers, and your assertion they have built teams solely through the draft. Back in the 90's they paid big money [back then] to bring Reggie White over from Philadelphia, it was a big move back in the day. They built a defense around the bloke, a defense that dominated their division.

 

Ambition [through the use of the salary cap, and being able to stay within the upper limit] is measured by supplimenting a club's developing stars [acquired through the draft] with experienced stars purchased via the free agent market, during a club's so-called premiership window ie. as the youngsters near their peak abilities as a group, and as veterans retire. Many examples are too numerous to list, think Randy Moss to the Patriots to aid Brady in the passing game - it nearly delivered a perfect season.

 

 

Rules were a lot different in the 90's when Reggie signed and he put the D over the edge,but they already had some great players before Reggie came (Dotson, Butler etc). In truth the guy who won us the superbowl was probably Desmond Howard, a bargain basement street free agent, flashed for just that season then disappeared again. Moss wasn't a free agent as such, he was traded for (3rd or 4th round pick, can't exactly recall).

 

Teams lose BIG stars all the time because they can't afford or choose not to re-sign them because of the cap implications, Aaron Kampman last year for us for example. The top Marquee players who get to free agency rarely go to a major contender, Kampman went to Carolina !!! To use Carrol as an analogy, he was an RFA and we chose not to match what someone else was offering, so he went.

 

The Cap is a better illustration of what FCB is doing than of the opposite IMO.

 

But the Patriots [when recognising there was a key area to fill, and when the right player became available at a high price ie.wage-wise] still managed to squeeze him inside the upper limit of their cap as a means of keeping their so-called premiership window open. Astute & ambitious running of the club, both on the GM and owner's part.

 

Once again i raise the Bidwells, as a point in case, who for years ran a wage bill as close as possible to the cap's mandatory & lowest possible limit. Couple that with a degree of ineptitude [surrounding themselves with poor decision makers, at the coaching level, and they have been are prolific hirers & firers in this department] at management level. Here is all the evidence you need of an organisation who chose to flounder, and make a tidy wedge on the side, while putting out a side playing in front of a three quarters filled stadium. As i said they chose to take the piss out of what is a highly profitable Pacific-Midwest market. This sort of level of perpetual non-competitiveness is unforgiveable, in a league which weighs itself towards creating a level of parity amongst it's participants, and actually rewards sustained on-field failure & penalises success through it's draft system and weighted scheduling/fixturing.

 

It shows that a lack of ambition & astute decision making can override whatever guidelines a ruling body can put into place, as a means of creating parity or a somewhat even playing field. Ashley is a Bidwell....... no ambition, has no idea about running a football club, and surrounds himself with likeminded fools. Stop making him out to be some sort of revolutionary on the football landscape, preparing the club for a governing body enforced Event Horizon re: club spending.

 

I guarantee you that with or without a mandatory or low-end spending cap put into place [and this would be Ashley's greatest bugbear if it was indeed implemented] which is relative to club turnover, the likes of Wigan demonstrating more ambition [in their attempt to retain premiership status] will make a mockery of Ashley's model for balance sheet success. Our lack of ambition will greater magnified if lower & upper caps are ever introduced, that the likes of Wigan will invest more than us they will keep to their upper cap limit, whereas Ashley is more likely to stick to the mandatory cap at the low end of the scale.

Edited February 6, 2011 by Year Zero

[LeazesMag 0]

Pardew hopes Newcastle will not sell out in future

 

Alan Pardew has warned it could take two years of rebuilding before Newcastle have the financial might to stop a repeat of Andy Carroll’s exit.

 

The United chief drew a line under Carroll’s £35 milllion exit yesterday insisting his players were “resilient” - and since the defeat to Fulham had “resolved to get over a bad defeat and a bad transfer window.”

 

Pardew has had personal assurances from owner Mike Ashley that he will get the transfer cash to spend in the summer.

 

It is his “ambition” is to get Newcastle in a position they do not have to sell their top assets, and can afford the sort of wages offered by the big five for the right players.

 

Pardew is hoping Joey Barton will sign a new contract next week, which will represent a pay cut on his existing deal. Spanish left back Jose Enrique has also indicated he will extend his contract, which has a year to run, if Newcastle stay in the top flight.

 

But the United boss is working under financial constraints that means they were blown out of the water by Liverpool offering Andy Carroll £75,000 a week - a near five fold pay-rise for the Gateshead-born striker.

 

Pardew, whose side faces Arsenal today said: “I do not want to go back to Andy. I want to move on but my view of it is that (Ashley and Derek Llambias) made me aware that they wanted to get the club on a financial footing which gives them a chance to build the club.

 

“Signing younger players and hoping they become successful in the Premier League is part of the policy of growing as a club.

 

“Now ideally you would like to keep someone like Andy Carroll, a young player who is from the area. Financially we could not keep him.

 

“But we like to think, or I like to think, certainly I have that ambition, that in two or three years time, if we can sustain our Premier League status, and keep getting the TV money invested wisely, that we can keep hold off that next bid, which might be, say, for Cheik Tiote in 18 months time.

 

“That we get ourselves in a position to do that because at the moment we’re not and we have to accept that.

 

“It has been a difficult week and I am not trying to disguise it. I thought fans’ response against Fulham was more than I could have expected. Regardless of the manager or the owners, or even the players, it is their club and I just hope they come and support their club.

 

“We all have to live with the decision, us as a coaching staff and us as a football team. We have to live with the decision we made this week. We have got to get on with it.”

 

Barton was expected to pen his new deal on Monday but Pardew added: “I have got nothing concrete to report. We are obviously aware of their contract situations and will focus on those. I am pretty confident that Joey’s will get sorted out next week. There was a little bit going on this week which distracted us!

 

“On Jose I think it is fairly straightforward. Jose has expressed that once we are safe in the division, he would like to sit down with us. We are fine with that. That’s his option of course. There are always two options I was disappointed with the goal (against Fulham) because wow, what a performance he put in on that pitch. If he can stay in that form, we have a fantastic player.”

 

Newcastle’s other top asset is Tiote, and asked about the prospect of keeping the bargain £3.5 million buy, Pardew said: “I am hoping there are no bids, otherwise we will have a problem. He is a very important player, very talented and someone we will embrace to be a big part of our future.”

 

Pardew is exploring signing a free agent, with Jeremie Aliadiere who he coached at West Ham, available. He added: “Yeah, we are exploring that. I have looked at our bench in terms of attacking options to change the game or put a different picture on the pitch. I need to explore that thoroughly and there are one or two options we can take and we are on to them. That is all I can report.”

 

Pardew has recalled Hatem Ben Arfa from his rehabilitation programme in France so he can get fit again “with the group”. He added: “We are going to need him in the March, April May period. He is not doing full running yet, just jogging. We need him embedded into the group. It is about being together, we are all in this together whether you are injured or not. I want to see a bit more of him out on that training ground.”

 

An honest if disturbing short term outlook.

 

How are they, NUFC, going to keep anyone if all the player has to do to get away is to put in a transfer request????

 

Carrollgate will just happen time and time again, once clubs wave the cheque book in front of would-be signings. The Arsenal model (buy cheap, sell mucho) will reign supreme at St James'.

 

you can't keep any player once they start to think about more money and the chance of playing for clubs that are attempting to win the trophies.

[Guest]

Pardew hopes Newcastle will not sell out in future

 

Alan Pardew has warned it could take two years of rebuilding before Newcastle have the financial might to stop a repeat of Andy Carroll’s exit.

 

The United chief drew a line under Carroll’s £35 milllion exit yesterday insisting his players were “resilient” - and since the defeat to Fulham had “resolved to get over a bad defeat and a bad transfer window.”

 

Pardew has had personal assurances from owner Mike Ashley that he will get the transfer cash to spend in the summer.

 

It is his “ambition” is to get Newcastle in a position they do not have to sell their top assets, and can afford the sort of wages offered by the big five for the right players.

 

Pardew is hoping Joey Barton will sign a new contract next week, which will represent a pay cut on his existing deal. Spanish left back Jose Enrique has also indicated he will extend his contract, which has a year to run, if Newcastle stay in the top flight.

 

But the United boss is working under financial constraints that means they were blown out of the water by Liverpool offering Andy Carroll £75,000 a week - a near five fold pay-rise for the Gateshead-born striker.

 

Pardew, whose side faces Arsenal today said: “I do not want to go back to Andy. I want to move on but my view of it is that (Ashley and Derek Llambias) made me aware that they wanted to get the club on a financial footing which gives them a chance to build the club.

 

“Signing younger players and hoping they become successful in the Premier League is part of the policy of growing as a club.

 

“Now ideally you would like to keep someone like Andy Carroll, a young player who is from the area. Financially we could not keep him.

 

“But we like to think, or I like to think, certainly I have that ambition, that in two or three years time, if we can sustain our Premier League status, and keep getting the TV money invested wisely, that we can keep hold off that next bid, which might be, say, for Cheik Tiote in 18 months time.

 

“That we get ourselves in a position to do that because at the moment we’re not and we have to accept that.

 

“It has been a difficult week and I am not trying to disguise it. I thought fans’ response against Fulham was more than I could have expected. Regardless of the manager or the owners, or even the players, it is their club and I just hope they come and support their club.

 

“We all have to live with the decision, us as a coaching staff and us as a football team. We have to live with the decision we made this week. We have got to get on with it.”

 

Barton was expected to pen his new deal on Monday but Pardew added: “I have got nothing concrete to report. We are obviously aware of their contract situations and will focus on those. I am pretty confident that Joey’s will get sorted out next week. There was a little bit going on this week which distracted us!

 

“On Jose I think it is fairly straightforward. Jose has expressed that once we are safe in the division, he would like to sit down with us. We are fine with that. That’s his option of course. There are always two options I was disappointed with the goal (against Fulham) because wow, what a performance he put in on that pitch. If he can stay in that form, we have a fantastic player.”

 

Newcastle’s other top asset is Tiote, and asked about the prospect of keeping the bargain £3.5 million buy, Pardew said: “I am hoping there are no bids, otherwise we will have a problem. He is a very important player, very talented and someone we will embrace to be a big part of our future.”

 

Pardew is exploring signing a free agent, with Jeremie Aliadiere who he coached at West Ham, available. He added: “Yeah, we are exploring that. I have looked at our bench in terms of attacking options to change the game or put a different picture on the pitch. I need to explore that thoroughly and there are one or two options we can take and we are on to them. That is all I can report.”

 

Pardew has recalled Hatem Ben Arfa from his rehabilitation programme in France so he can get fit again “with the group”. He added: “We are going to need him in the March, April May period. He is not doing full running yet, just jogging. We need him embedded into the group. It is about being together, we are all in this together whether you are injured or not. I want to see a bit more of him out on that training ground.”

 

An honest if disturbing short term outlook.

 

How are they, NUFC, going to keep anyone if all the player has to do to get away is to put in a transfer request????

 

Carrollgate will just happen time and time again, once clubs wave the cheque book in front of would-be signings. The Arsenal model (buy cheap, sell mucho) will reign supreme at St James'.

 

you can't keep any player once they start to think about more money and the chance of playing for clubs that are attempting to win the trophies.

 

 

Correct, a sad summary of the state of our club finances

[LeazesMag 0]

Pardew hopes Newcastle will not sell out in future

 

Alan Pardew has warned it could take two years of rebuilding before Newcastle have the financial might to stop a repeat of Andy Carroll’s exit.

 

The United chief drew a line under Carroll’s £35 milllion exit yesterday insisting his players were “resilient” - and since the defeat to Fulham had “resolved to get over a bad defeat and a bad transfer window.”

 

Pardew has had personal assurances from owner Mike Ashley that he will get the transfer cash to spend in the summer.

 

It is his “ambition” is to get Newcastle in a position they do not have to sell their top assets, and can afford the sort of wages offered by the big five for the right players.

 

Pardew is hoping Joey Barton will sign a new contract next week, which will represent a pay cut on his existing deal. Spanish left back Jose Enrique has also indicated he will extend his contract, which has a year to run, if Newcastle stay in the top flight.

 

But the United boss is working under financial constraints that means they were blown out of the water by Liverpool offering Andy Carroll £75,000 a week - a near five fold pay-rise for the Gateshead-born striker.

 

Pardew, whose side faces Arsenal today said: “I do not want to go back to Andy. I want to move on but my view of it is that (Ashley and Derek Llambias) made me aware that they wanted to get the club on a financial footing which gives them a chance to build the club.

 

“Signing younger players and hoping they become successful in the Premier League is part of the policy of growing as a club.

 

“Now ideally you would like to keep someone like Andy Carroll, a young player who is from the area. Financially we could not keep him.

 

“But we like to think, or I like to think, certainly I have that ambition, that in two or three years time, if we can sustain our Premier League status, and keep getting the TV money invested wisely, that we can keep hold off that next bid, which might be, say, for Cheik Tiote in 18 months time.

 

“That we get ourselves in a position to do that because at the moment we’re not and we have to accept that.

 

“It has been a difficult week and I am not trying to disguise it. I thought fans’ response against Fulham was more than I could have expected. Regardless of the manager or the owners, or even the players, it is their club and I just hope they come and support their club.

 

“We all have to live with the decision, us as a coaching staff and us as a football team. We have to live with the decision we made this week. We have got to get on with it.”

 

Barton was expected to pen his new deal on Monday but Pardew added: “I have got nothing concrete to report. We are obviously aware of their contract situations and will focus on those. I am pretty confident that Joey’s will get sorted out next week. There was a little bit going on this week which distracted us!

 

“On Jose I think it is fairly straightforward. Jose has expressed that once we are safe in the division, he would like to sit down with us. We are fine with that. That’s his option of course. There are always two options I was disappointed with the goal (against Fulham) because wow, what a performance he put in on that pitch. If he can stay in that form, we have a fantastic player.”

 

Newcastle’s other top asset is Tiote, and asked about the prospect of keeping the bargain £3.5 million buy, Pardew said: “I am hoping there are no bids, otherwise we will have a problem. He is a very important player, very talented and someone we will embrace to be a big part of our future.”

 

Pardew is exploring signing a free agent, with Jeremie Aliadiere who he coached at West Ham, available. He added: “Yeah, we are exploring that. I have looked at our bench in terms of attacking options to change the game or put a different picture on the pitch. I need to explore that thoroughly and there are one or two options we can take and we are on to them. That is all I can report.”

 

Pardew has recalled Hatem Ben Arfa from his rehabilitation programme in France so he can get fit again “with the group”. He added: “We are going to need him in the March, April May period. He is not doing full running yet, just jogging. We need him embedded into the group. It is about being together, we are all in this together whether you are injured or not. I want to see a bit more of him out on that training ground.”

 

An honest if disturbing short term outlook.

 

How are they, NUFC, going to keep anyone if all the player has to do to get away is to put in a transfer request????

 

Carrollgate will just happen time and time again, once clubs wave the cheque book in front of would-be signings. The Arsenal model (buy cheap, sell mucho) will reign supreme at St James'.

 

you can't keep any player once they start to think about more money and the chance of playing for clubs that are attempting to win the trophies.

 

 

Correct, a sad summary of the state of our club finances

 

when the likes of Wigan are demonstrating more ambition, yes.

[Guest]

Pardew hopes Newcastle will not sell out in future

 

Alan Pardew has warned it could take two years of rebuilding before Newcastle have the financial might to stop a repeat of Andy Carroll’s exit.

 

The United chief drew a line under Carroll’s £35 milllion exit yesterday insisting his players were “resilient” - and since the defeat to Fulham had “resolved to get over a bad defeat and a bad transfer window.”

 

Pardew has had personal assurances from owner Mike Ashley that he will get the transfer cash to spend in the summer.

 

It is his “ambition” is to get Newcastle in a position they do not have to sell their top assets, and can afford the sort of wages offered by the big five for the right players.

 

Pardew is hoping Joey Barton will sign a new contract next week, which will represent a pay cut on his existing deal. Spanish left back Jose Enrique has also indicated he will extend his contract, which has a year to run, if Newcastle stay in the top flight.

 

But the United boss is working under financial constraints that means they were blown out of the water by Liverpool offering Andy Carroll £75,000 a week - a near five fold pay-rise for the Gateshead-born striker.

 

Pardew, whose side faces Arsenal today said: “I do not want to go back to Andy. I want to move on but my view of it is that (Ashley and Derek Llambias) made me aware that they wanted to get the club on a financial footing which gives them a chance to build the club.

 

“Signing younger players and hoping they become successful in the Premier League is part of the policy of growing as a club.

 

“Now ideally you would like to keep someone like Andy Carroll, a young player who is from the area. Financially we could not keep him.

 

“But we like to think, or I like to think, certainly I have that ambition, that in two or three years time, if we can sustain our Premier League status, and keep getting the TV money invested wisely, that we can keep hold off that next bid, which might be, say, for Cheik Tiote in 18 months time.

 

“That we get ourselves in a position to do that because at the moment we’re not and we have to accept that.

 

“It has been a difficult week and I am not trying to disguise it. I thought fans’ response against Fulham was more than I could have expected. Regardless of the manager or the owners, or even the players, it is their club and I just hope they come and support their club.

 

“We all have to live with the decision, us as a coaching staff and us as a football team. We have to live with the decision we made this week. We have got to get on with it.”

 

Barton was expected to pen his new deal on Monday but Pardew added: “I have got nothing concrete to report. We are obviously aware of their contract situations and will focus on those. I am pretty confident that Joey’s will get sorted out next week. There was a little bit going on this week which distracted us!

 

“On Jose I think it is fairly straightforward. Jose has expressed that once we are safe in the division, he would like to sit down with us. We are fine with that. That’s his option of course. There are always two options I was disappointed with the goal (against Fulham) because wow, what a performance he put in on that pitch. If he can stay in that form, we have a fantastic player.”

 

Newcastle’s other top asset is Tiote, and asked about the prospect of keeping the bargain £3.5 million buy, Pardew said: “I am hoping there are no bids, otherwise we will have a problem. He is a very important player, very talented and someone we will embrace to be a big part of our future.”

 

Pardew is exploring signing a free agent, with Jeremie Aliadiere who he coached at West Ham, available. He added: “Yeah, we are exploring that. I have looked at our bench in terms of attacking options to change the game or put a different picture on the pitch. I need to explore that thoroughly and there are one or two options we can take and we are on to them. That is all I can report.”

 

Pardew has recalled Hatem Ben Arfa from his rehabilitation programme in France so he can get fit again “with the group”. He added: “We are going to need him in the March, April May period. He is not doing full running yet, just jogging. We need him embedded into the group. It is about being together, we are all in this together whether you are injured or not. I want to see a bit more of him out on that training ground.”

 

An honest if disturbing short term outlook.

 

How are they, NUFC, going to keep anyone if all the player has to do to get away is to put in a transfer request????

 

Carrollgate will just happen time and time again, once clubs wave the cheque book in front of would-be signings. The Arsenal model (buy cheap, sell mucho) will reign supreme at St James'.

 

you can't keep any player once they start to think about more money and the chance of playing for clubs that are attempting to win the trophies.

 

 

Correct, a sad summary of the state of our club finances

 

when the likes of Wigan are demonstrating more ambition, yes.

 

 

Sad state of affairs when Wigan of ten years ago planned for the future better than we did

[Hudson 0]

Pardew hopes Newcastle will not sell out in future

 

Alan Pardew has warned it could take two years of rebuilding before Newcastle have the financial might to stop a repeat of Andy Carroll’s exit.

 

The United chief drew a line under Carroll’s £35 milllion exit yesterday insisting his players were “resilient” - and since the defeat to Fulham had “resolved to get over a bad defeat and a bad transfer window.”

 

Pardew has had personal assurances from owner Mike Ashley that he will get the transfer cash to spend in the summer.

 

It is his “ambition” is to get Newcastle in a position they do not have to sell their top assets, and can afford the sort of wages offered by the big five for the right players.

 

Pardew is hoping Joey Barton will sign a new contract next week, which will represent a pay cut on his existing deal. Spanish left back Jose Enrique has also indicated he will extend his contract, which has a year to run, if Newcastle stay in the top flight.

 

But the United boss is working under financial constraints that means they were blown out of the water by Liverpool offering Andy Carroll £75,000 a week - a near five fold pay-rise for the Gateshead-born striker.

 

Pardew, whose side faces Arsenal today said: “I do not want to go back to Andy. I want to move on but my view of it is that (Ashley and Derek Llambias) made me aware that they wanted to get the club on a financial footing which gives them a chance to build the club.

 

“Signing younger players and hoping they become successful in the Premier League is part of the policy of growing as a club.

 

“Now ideally you would like to keep someone like Andy Carroll, a young player who is from the area. Financially we could not keep him.

 

“But we like to think, or I like to think, certainly I have that ambition, that in two or three years time, if we can sustain our Premier League status, and keep getting the TV money invested wisely, that we can keep hold off that next bid, which might be, say, for Cheik Tiote in 18 months time.

 

“That we get ourselves in a position to do that because at the moment we’re not and we have to accept that.

 

“It has been a difficult week and I am not trying to disguise it. I thought fans’ response against Fulham was more than I could have expected. Regardless of the manager or the owners, or even the players, it is their club and I just hope they come and support their club.

 

“We all have to live with the decision, us as a coaching staff and us as a football team. We have to live with the decision we made this week. We have got to get on with it.”

 

Barton was expected to pen his new deal on Monday but Pardew added: “I have got nothing concrete to report. We are obviously aware of their contract situations and will focus on those. I am pretty confident that Joey’s will get sorted out next week. There was a little bit going on this week which distracted us!

 

“On Jose I think it is fairly straightforward. Jose has expressed that once we are safe in the division, he would like to sit down with us. We are fine with that. That’s his option of course. There are always two options I was disappointed with the goal (against Fulham) because wow, what a performance he put in on that pitch. If he can stay in that form, we have a fantastic player.”

 

Newcastle’s other top asset is Tiote, and asked about the prospect of keeping the bargain £3.5 million buy, Pardew said: “I am hoping there are no bids, otherwise we will have a problem. He is a very important player, very talented and someone we will embrace to be a big part of our future.”

 

Pardew is exploring signing a free agent, with Jeremie Aliadiere who he coached at West Ham, available. He added: “Yeah, we are exploring that. I have looked at our bench in terms of attacking options to change the game or put a different picture on the pitch. I need to explore that thoroughly and there are one or two options we can take and we are on to them. That is all I can report.”

 

Pardew has recalled Hatem Ben Arfa from his rehabilitation programme in France so he can get fit again “with the group”. He added: “We are going to need him in the March, April May period. He is not doing full running yet, just jogging. We need him embedded into the group. It is about being together, we are all in this together whether you are injured or not. I want to see a bit more of him out on that training ground.”

 

An honest if disturbing short term outlook.

 

How are they, NUFC, going to keep anyone if all the player has to do to get away is to put in a transfer request????

 

Carrollgate will just happen time and time again, once clubs wave the cheque book in front of would-be signings. The Arsenal model (buy cheap, sell mucho) will reign supreme at St James'.

 

you can't keep any player once they start to think about more money and the chance of playing for clubs that are attempting to win the trophies.

 

 

Correct, a sad summary of the state of our club finances

 

when the likes of Wigan are demonstrating more ambition, yes.

 

 

Sad state of affairs when Wigan of ten years ago planned for the future better than we did

 

 

Alot of good it has done them, there in a worst position than us

[Guest]

Pardew hopes Newcastle will not sell out in future

 

Alan Pardew has warned it could take two years of rebuilding before Newcastle have the financial might to stop a repeat of Andy Carroll’s exit.

 

The United chief drew a line under Carroll’s £35 milllion exit yesterday insisting his players were “resilient” - and since the defeat to Fulham had “resolved to get over a bad defeat and a bad transfer window.”

 

Pardew has had personal assurances from owner Mike Ashley that he will get the transfer cash to spend in the summer.

 

It is his “ambition” is to get Newcastle in a position they do not have to sell their top assets, and can afford the sort of wages offered by the big five for the right players.

 

Pardew is hoping Joey Barton will sign a new contract next week, which will represent a pay cut on his existing deal. Spanish left back Jose Enrique has also indicated he will extend his contract, which has a year to run, if Newcastle stay in the top flight.

 

But the United boss is working under financial constraints that means they were blown out of the water by Liverpool offering Andy Carroll £75,000 a week - a near five fold pay-rise for the Gateshead-born striker.

 

Pardew, whose side faces Arsenal today said: “I do not want to go back to Andy. I want to move on but my view of it is that (Ashley and Derek Llambias) made me aware that they wanted to get the club on a financial footing which gives them a chance to build the club.

 

“Signing younger players and hoping they become successful in the Premier League is part of the policy of growing as a club.

 

“Now ideally you would like to keep someone like Andy Carroll, a young player who is from the area. Financially we could not keep him.

 

“But we like to think, or I like to think, certainly I have that ambition, that in two or three years time, if we can sustain our Premier League status, and keep getting the TV money invested wisely, that we can keep hold off that next bid, which might be, say, for Cheik Tiote in 18 months time.

 

“That we get ourselves in a position to do that because at the moment we’re not and we have to accept that.

 

“It has been a difficult week and I am not trying to disguise it. I thought fans’ response against Fulham was more than I could have expected. Regardless of the manager or the owners, or even the players, it is their club and I just hope they come and support their club.

 

“We all have to live with the decision, us as a coaching staff and us as a football team. We have to live with the decision we made this week. We have got to get on with it.”

 

Barton was expected to pen his new deal on Monday but Pardew added: “I have got nothing concrete to report. We are obviously aware of their contract situations and will focus on those. I am pretty confident that Joey’s will get sorted out next week. There was a little bit going on this week which distracted us!

 

“On Jose I think it is fairly straightforward. Jose has expressed that once we are safe in the division, he would like to sit down with us. We are fine with that. That’s his option of course. There are always two options I was disappointed with the goal (against Fulham) because wow, what a performance he put in on that pitch. If he can stay in that form, we have a fantastic player.”

 

Newcastle’s other top asset is Tiote, and asked about the prospect of keeping the bargain £3.5 million buy, Pardew said: “I am hoping there are no bids, otherwise we will have a problem. He is a very important player, very talented and someone we will embrace to be a big part of our future.”

 

Pardew is exploring signing a free agent, with Jeremie Aliadiere who he coached at West Ham, available. He added: “Yeah, we are exploring that. I have looked at our bench in terms of attacking options to change the game or put a different picture on the pitch. I need to explore that thoroughly and there are one or two options we can take and we are on to them. That is all I can report.”

 

Pardew has recalled Hatem Ben Arfa from his rehabilitation programme in France so he can get fit again “with the group”. He added: “We are going to need him in the March, April May period. He is not doing full running yet, just jogging. We need him embedded into the group. It is about being together, we are all in this together whether you are injured or not. I want to see a bit more of him out on that training ground.”

 

An honest if disturbing short term outlook.

 

How are they, NUFC, going to keep anyone if all the player has to do to get away is to put in a transfer request????

 

Carrollgate will just happen time and time again, once clubs wave the cheque book in front of would-be signings. The Arsenal model (buy cheap, sell mucho) will reign supreme at St James'.

 

you can't keep any player once they start to think about more money and the chance of playing for clubs that are attempting to win the trophies.

 

 

Correct, a sad summary of the state of our club finances

 

when the likes of Wigan are demonstrating more ambition, yes.

 

 

Sad state of affairs when Wigan of ten years ago planned for the future better than we did

 

 

Alot of good it has done them, there in a worst position than us

 

 

It's all about the transfer fees man

[LeazesMag 0]

Pardew hopes Newcastle will not sell out in future

 

Alan Pardew has warned it could take two years of rebuilding before Newcastle have the financial might to stop a repeat of Andy Carroll’s exit.

 

The United chief drew a line under Carroll’s £35 milllion exit yesterday insisting his players were “resilient” - and since the defeat to Fulham had “resolved to get over a bad defeat and a bad transfer window.”

 

Pardew has had personal assurances from owner Mike Ashley that he will get the transfer cash to spend in the summer.

 

It is his “ambition” is to get Newcastle in a position they do not have to sell their top assets, and can afford the sort of wages offered by the big five for the right players.

 

Pardew is hoping Joey Barton will sign a new contract next week, which will represent a pay cut on his existing deal. Spanish left back Jose Enrique has also indicated he will extend his contract, which has a year to run, if Newcastle stay in the top flight.

 

But the United boss is working under financial constraints that means they were blown out of the water by Liverpool offering Andy Carroll £75,000 a week - a near five fold pay-rise for the Gateshead-born striker.

 

Pardew, whose side faces Arsenal today said: “I do not want to go back to Andy. I want to move on but my view of it is that (Ashley and Derek Llambias) made me aware that they wanted to get the club on a financial footing which gives them a chance to build the club.

 

“Signing younger players and hoping they become successful in the Premier League is part of the policy of growing as a club.

 

“Now ideally you would like to keep someone like Andy Carroll, a young player who is from the area. Financially we could not keep him.

 

“But we like to think, or I like to think, certainly I have that ambition, that in two or three years time, if we can sustain our Premier League status, and keep getting the TV money invested wisely, that we can keep hold off that next bid, which might be, say, for Cheik Tiote in 18 months time.

 

“That we get ourselves in a position to do that because at the moment we’re not and we have to accept that.

 

“It has been a difficult week and I am not trying to disguise it. I thought fans’ response against Fulham was more than I could have expected. Regardless of the manager or the owners, or even the players, it is their club and I just hope they come and support their club.

 

“We all have to live with the decision, us as a coaching staff and us as a football team. We have to live with the decision we made this week. We have got to get on with it.”

 

Barton was expected to pen his new deal on Monday but Pardew added: “I have got nothing concrete to report. We are obviously aware of their contract situations and will focus on those. I am pretty confident that Joey’s will get sorted out next week. There was a little bit going on this week which distracted us!

 

“On Jose I think it is fairly straightforward. Jose has expressed that once we are safe in the division, he would like to sit down with us. We are fine with that. That’s his option of course. There are always two options I was disappointed with the goal (against Fulham) because wow, what a performance he put in on that pitch. If he can stay in that form, we have a fantastic player.”

 

Newcastle’s other top asset is Tiote, and asked about the prospect of keeping the bargain £3.5 million buy, Pardew said: “I am hoping there are no bids, otherwise we will have a problem. He is a very important player, very talented and someone we will embrace to be a big part of our future.”

 

Pardew is exploring signing a free agent, with Jeremie Aliadiere who he coached at West Ham, available. He added: “Yeah, we are exploring that. I have looked at our bench in terms of attacking options to change the game or put a different picture on the pitch. I need to explore that thoroughly and there are one or two options we can take and we are on to them. That is all I can report.”

 

Pardew has recalled Hatem Ben Arfa from his rehabilitation programme in France so he can get fit again “with the group”. He added: “We are going to need him in the March, April May period. He is not doing full running yet, just jogging. We need him embedded into the group. It is about being together, we are all in this together whether you are injured or not. I want to see a bit more of him out on that training ground.”

 

An honest if disturbing short term outlook.

 

How are they, NUFC, going to keep anyone if all the player has to do to get away is to put in a transfer request????

 

Carrollgate will just happen time and time again, once clubs wave the cheque book in front of would-be signings. The Arsenal model (buy cheap, sell mucho) will reign supreme at St James'.

 

you can't keep any player once they start to think about more money and the chance of playing for clubs that are attempting to win the trophies.

 

 

Correct, a sad summary of the state of our club finances

 

when the likes of Wigan are demonstrating more ambition, yes.

 

 

Sad state of affairs when Wigan of ten years ago planned for the future better than we did

 

 

Alot of good it has done them, there in a worst position than us

 

have a word with Kenny Dalglish mate, are you saying Liverpool have been getting it all wrong for the last 40 odd years then

[Guest]

[LeazesMag 0]

 

Andy Carrol isn't going to be sold is he skidders ? No way.

[Guest]

 

Andy Carrol isn't going to be sold is he skidders ? No way.

 

 

I hear Man Utd are also a selling club

[LeazesMag 0]

http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?...mp;#entry852932

 

tragic

[peasepud 59]

nothing to see here people, move along come on now, havent you got homes to go to?

[Guest]

The bitter irony

 

Tragic

[Flair 0]

 

Andy Carrol isn't going to be sold is he skidders ? No way.

 

 

I hear Man Utd are also a selling club

 

Only difference is Manchester United aren't rummaging around the bargain bin to see what fits.

[LeazesMag 0]

 

Andy Carrol isn't going to be sold is he skidders ? No way.

 

 

I hear Man Utd are also a selling club

 

Only difference is Manchester United aren't rummaging around the bargain bin to see what fits.

 

Laughable, are people like Skidmarks. History shows that every single team who has ever won the championships and/or has had consistent high league placings has done it with spending money when necessary on the best players from other smaller acting clubs ie as in Liverpool buying Andy Carroll. The winners take gambles, and the losers sell their best players to the gamblers. We know SOME players come through the ranks, and we know SOME players are found by having good judgements by managers or scouts of up and coming players.

 

But quite why, after over 100 years of football in England, Skidders etc come along and insist they have all been getting it wrong and there has been absolutely no need to do it, and you can put together a team exclusively of bargains found kicking a ball in the lower divisions for peanuts, is unbelievable.

 

He'll come along now and say he hasn't been serious, or something equally as stupid.

 

 

Deary deary me.

 

What would people rather see at this football club. A club selling its best players and being a yo-yo club with a profit on the balance sheet, or a club competing and maximising potential revenue even to the tune of having some debt and playing in the Champions League in the San Siro and Nou Camp ?

 

No brainer, except to Skidmarks and his ilk.

Edited February 6, 2011 by LeazesMag

[Toonpack 9298]

 

Andy Carrol isn't going to be sold is he skidders ? No way.

 

 

I hear Man Utd are also a selling club

 

Only difference is Manchester United aren't rummaging around the bargain bin to see what fits.

 

Laughable, are people like Skidmarks. History shows that every single team who has ever won the championships and/or has had consistent high league placings has done it with spending money when necessary on the best players from other smaller acting clubs ie as in Liverpool buying Andy Carroll. The winners take gambles, and the losers sell their best players to the gamblers. We know SOME players come through the ranks, and we know SOME players are found by having good judgements by managers or scouts of up and coming players.

 

But quite why, after over 100 years of football in England, Skidders etc come along and insist they have all been getting it wrong and there has been absolutely no need to do it, and you can put together a team exclusively of bargains found kicking a ball in the lower divisions for peanuts, is unbelievable.

 

He'll come along now and say he hasn't been serious, or something equally as stupid.

 

 

Deary deary me.

 

What would people rather see at this football club. A club selling its best players and being a yo-yo club with a profit on the balance sheet, or a club competing and maximising potential revenue even to the tune of having some debt and playing in the Champions League in the San Siro and Nou Camp ?

 

No brainer, except to Skidmarks and his ilk.

 

Where'd the money (or debt) come from Leazes ????

[LeazesMag 0]

 

Andy Carrol isn't going to be sold is he skidders ? No way.

 

 

I hear Man Utd are also a selling club

 

Only difference is Manchester United aren't rummaging around the bargain bin to see what fits.

 

Laughable, are people like Skidmarks. History shows that every single team who has ever won the championships and/or has had consistent high league placings has done it with spending money when necessary on the best players from other smaller acting clubs ie as in Liverpool buying Andy Carroll. The winners take gambles, and the losers sell their best players to the gamblers. We know SOME players come through the ranks, and we know SOME players are found by having good judgements by managers or scouts of up and coming players.

 

But quite why, after over 100 years of football in England, Skidders etc come along and insist they have all been getting it wrong and there has been absolutely no need to do it, and you can put together a team exclusively of bargains found kicking a ball in the lower divisions for peanuts, is unbelievable.

 

He'll come along now and say he hasn't been serious, or something equally as stupid.

 

 

Deary deary me.

 

What would people rather see at this football club. A club selling its best players and being a yo-yo club with a profit on the balance sheet, or a club competing and maximising potential revenue even to the tune of having some debt and playing in the Champions League in the San Siro and Nou Camp ?

 

No brainer, except to Skidmarks and his ilk.

 

Where'd the money (or debt) come from Leazes ????

 

Also laughable. Are you happy we have gone back to the days of McKeag, Seymour etc ? Or did you hate every minute we played in the Champions League and signed all those quality footballers, ooopss, sorry Trophy players as they are - equally laughably - called on skunkers

 

Did the Halls and Shepherd attract you back to the club, like 30000 others, or have you never been an active supporter of the club ?

Edited February 6, 2011 by LeazesMag