Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 (edited) Not too sure of his history with Ralph Little, I think they were once flat mates but Clarke has a long history of the black dog and drinking. Little posted this on Twitter. "First and foremost, and I should know this by now, twitter is not the place for this sort of thing, as it takes more than 140 characters to talk about anything seriously. So already I wish I hadnt said anything, not because I regret the comment, but because the choice of forum was wrong and frankly understandable if people are riled up. Next thing is, I dont suddenly want to air a list of grievances that sound sensationalist and do some tabloids job for them. Clarke and I have history, that involves money, lies, on one notable occasion me being interrogated by the police over something I knew nothing about and all sorts of other stuff. Now, when it comes to mental illness, I understand it, Ive lived around it, Ive supported it, I fight against the stigmatization of it and so on. I think its a very real issue with a long road to go to combat it. So that said, on to this case Its extremely difficult to watch someone repeatedly ruin other peoples lives, then explain it in such a way that makes them immune to criticism. And it keeps happening. Its now reached a point where, as this proves, its like emotional touch paper. And sure, Im not a professional expert on mental health, and no doubt, neither are you. But I know more about this particular case than you do just because you read about it in the Sun, or saw a documentary. There comes a point where its just frustrating to witness someone constantly hammering the pattern of destruction for those around and I was once one of those around - only to see the destructive force make a moving and sincere apology then do it again. (On reflection, thats the nature of addiction/illness, and I know that all too well, but as I say, a rash tweet and its not the place for it. ) I should also say that during the course of this twitter whatever it is, Clarke has been in touch with a retrospective apology over things that went on a long time ago, and I think that has to be respected by all, myself included. Anyway... You have to be in a dark place to attempt suicide, and only a fool would suggest otherwise. However, I do find myself thinking that when youve been driving drunk five (is it?) times, risking lives of countless other people, and even in your darkest hour still manage to involve a lorry driver who could have died himself, and now has to live with that trauma and memory every day fro the REST of his life Personally my stores of empathy start to dry up after a while. Am I really that out of order for suggesting thats not on? Do we repeatedly overlook reckless destruction of other lives beacause someone apologizes, again and again, and says its an illness? Isn't there a point where we can go, "enough is enough"? I hate drink driving, I really do. I know victims of it, who have died, been paralysed, or lost loved ones, and Ive watched this man get caught doing it several times then publicly forgiven, lauded, and handed a bloody good career! Im sorry but that annoys me! And I think thats my overriding feeling. I dont feel sad for Clarke any more, I was drained of that some time ago. Instead I feel sad, and maybe a little angry, for Gemma, and the kids, and the lorry driver, and the people who dived out of the way of the car all those years ago, and all the other people who have been fucked over and over and over you know who you are. Of course I wish Clarke a strong recovery and not just from the crash. It would be a better world if he and all other sufferers of such an insidious disease could find a way to fight the good fight. But when he does end up facing the drink driving charges, this time around, I hope, not least out of respect for the hundreds of drink driving victims who tweet me every year, they throw the book at him. I dont think that makes me a cunt, or gobshite, or a wanker, or any other delightful name some of you came up with, but hey its a free country. Though, as a final thought, I would say again, Im a fool for forgetting that twitter is not, and never will be, the place for a comment like that. Its too reductive and simplistic, and yes, without context, I can see it would seem insensitive and crass. Not my intention. Im going to bed." Edited February 5, 2015 by Anorthernsoul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 There's certainly no love lost there. Obviously people can often be twats when they're going through bouts of alcoholism and it's difficult to judge Little's opinions without knowing the full facts. He has a point though in that there is still no excuse for drink driving, especially from someone who should know better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 I also think it's rather insulting to suggest (speaking generally here) that you can't be a cunt because you're mentally ill, as the logical conclusion is also that it prevents you being a nice person or whatever. I.e. the illness doesn't necessarily define you to the extent that it should be an excuse for everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Was he in a dark place when he was pulled up for drink driving or was he just another cunt who decided to drink drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15531 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 It's almost as if you haven't read the thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4757 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Nailed on reference to Niall Quinn coming up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 It's almost as if you haven't read the thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7030 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Whatever the guys done (and drink driving 5 times is unforgivable), jumping in front of a truck is serious business and he's lucky to be alive. I don't think there was any intention of 'getting away' with stuff again behind this, he seemed to be genuinely intending to end his life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Whatever the guys done (and drink driving 5 times is unforgivable), jumping in front of a truck is serious business and he's lucky to be alive. I don't think there was any intention of 'getting away' with stuff again behind this, he seemed to be genuinely intending to end his life He's probably done it hundreds of times if he's been caught on five occasions like. I agree with what you're saying about his state of mind when he jumped in front of the lorry though. There was a lad I went to school with who threw himself in front of a train and killed himself last summer as it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonatine 11387 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 How long would it take you to earn a top footballer’s salary? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-31110113 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7030 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 He's probably done it hundreds of times if he's been caught on five occasions like. I agree with what you're saying about his state of mind when he jumped in front of the lorry though. There was a lad I went to school with who threw himself in front of a train and killed himself last summer as it happens. There's some cracking commentary on the whole Situation on RTG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42458 Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 http://www.buzzfeed.com/robinedds/badly-drawn-90s-footballers 15/17. Gutted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 http://www.buzzfeed.com/robinedds/badly-drawn-90s-footballers 15/17. Gutted. those are awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42458 Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 They're surprisingly accurate, aren't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Palace won again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33234 Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Palace won again. A real crunch game for Pardew during the week, a game he'll be dying to win. Hope he has the same result as he did for us in the big games then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 New Manager bounce or something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17274 Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 A real crunch game for Pardew during the week, a game he'll be dying to win. Hope he has the same result as he did for us in the big games then. I'm in attendance......informed Mrs PL this afternoon, whilst packing for our house move next Friday....it's fair to say she could have taken me taking time off work to travel the 150 mile round trip for "THAT BLEEDIN' FOOTBALL!!" a mere 36 hours before Pickfords turn up better tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 New Manager bounce or something else? Just pure, unadulterated fucking luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42458 Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 I'm in attendance......informed Mrs PL this afternoon, whilst packing for our house move next Friday....it's fair to say she could have taken me taking time off work to travel the 150 mile round trip for "THAT BLEEDIN' FOOTBALL!!" a mere 36 hours before Pickfords turn up better tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADP 0 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) Harry Kane is a really good footballer. Edited February 8, 2015 by ADP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13869 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Reckon this Pardew carry-on is a new manager run considering it seems like he's playing the same way he did here, albeit with players far more suited to his kick and run bollocks. Bet he's over the moon being able to sign clumsy tall strikers to hoof it to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 He seems to have a defence who don't like conceding goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13869 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Watched MOTD this morning and the highlights (I know) seemed to paint it as Pardew inviting the pressure on, breaking and somehow getting away without conceding, despite huge opposition pressure. Where have we seen that before? I know highlights rarely paint a true picture of the full game but it seemed like Leicester had the better of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Reporter must have felt like a right nob. http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31188264 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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