Tooj 17 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Amongst some of the strikers we've had in the last twent years or so? I know he's far from the finished article and has really only had a good half a season in the top flight - but it would be interesting to see what people think, both on how good he is now and how good he can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest You FCB Get Out Of Our Club Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 He'll never be as good as Shearer, I can say that for a fact. I don't think he'll be as good as Ferdinand neither, but he's already as good as Big Dunc, who was a much better player than people think. Only injuries blunted his progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21350 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Below shearer, cole, bellamy Ferdinand, tino and pedro to name a few. I'd put him alongside owen in terms of what he did in a black and White shirt - a decent goals to games ratio but not a lot. The sickener is we won't get to see him realise his massive potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl 0 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Its a bit premature to ask how he ranked after half a season but he showed some promise in the opening part of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 We'll know for sure every time we see him score in a Liverpool shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 8749 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Amongst some of the strikers we've had in the last twent years or so? I know he's far from the finished article and has really only had a good half a season in the top flight - but it would be interesting to see what people think, both on how good he is now and how good he can be. Well he's not anywhere near the top 10 world class players where his fee places him. In every interview I've ever heard with a coach who's had anything to do with the club when Carroll's been around the answer to that question has always been "he can be as good as Andy Carroll wants to be". Depends if he gets his head straight, which based upon what I know of him, is highly unlikely as he's a died in the wool piece of sh!t and he's now getting paid at a level where no matter how much better he may "want to be" he's not getting another significant rise any time soon. He's made it already. So I question any remaining motivation. Interesting to see how it plays out, but history (already been to court, assaulted a team-mate other allegations to the police not followed through) doesn't bode well IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 20485 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 He'll never be as good as Shearer, I can say that for a fact. I don't think he'll be as good as Ferdinand neither, but he's already as good as Big Dunc, who was a much better player than people think. Only injuries blunted his progress. Duncan Ferguson is about right for me. Personally I'm hoping Carroll is going to have the same type of injury problems and anonymous career now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 41372 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Every generation of footballers produces a stand out striker. I think we might have just sold him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest You FCB Get Out Of Our Club Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Amongst some of the strikers we've had in the last twent years or so? I know he's far from the finished article and has really only had a good half a season in the top flight - but it would be interesting to see what people think, both on how good he is now and how good he can be. Well he's not anywhere near the top 10 world class players where his fee places him. In every interview I've ever heard with a coach who's had anything to do with the club when Carroll's been around the answer to that question has always been "he can be as good as Andy Carroll wants to be". Depends if he gets his head straight, which based upon what I know of him, is highly unlikely as he's a died in the wool piece of sh!t and he's now getting paid at a level where no matter how much better he may "want to be" he's not getting another significant rise any time soon. He's made it already. So I question any remaining motivation. Interesting to see how it plays out, but history (already been to court, assaulted a team-mate other allegations to the police not followed through) doesn't bode well IMO. Aye even Alan Irvine said that when he was on loan at Preston, he was shite for them too. That was only two years ago we all thought he'd end up at Yeovil Town at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Amongst some of the strikers we've had in the last twent years or so? I know he's far from the finished article and has really only had a good half a season in the top flight - but it would be interesting to see what people think, both on how good he is now and how good he can be. Well he's not anywhere near the top 10 world class players where his fee places him. In every interview I've ever heard with a coach who's had anything to do with the club when Carroll's been around the answer to that question has always been "he can be as good as Andy Carroll wants to be". Depends if he gets his head straight, which based upon what I know of him, is highly unlikely as he's a died in the wool piece of sh!t and he's now getting paid at a level where no matter how much better he may "want to be" he's not getting another significant rise any time soon. He's made it already. So I question any remaining motivation. Interesting to see how it plays out, but history (already been to court, assaulted a team-mate other allegations to the police not followed through) doesn't bode well IMO. Or he could have done a Barton... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 8749 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 (edited) Amongst some of the strikers we've had in the last twent years or so? I know he's far from the finished article and has really only had a good half a season in the top flight - but it would be interesting to see what people think, both on how good he is now and how good he can be. Well he's not anywhere near the top 10 world class players where his fee places him. In every interview I've ever heard with a coach who's had anything to do with the club when Carroll's been around the answer to that question has always been "he can be as good as Andy Carroll wants to be". Depends if he gets his head straight, which based upon what I know of him, is highly unlikely as he's a died in the wool piece of sh!t and he's now getting paid at a level where no matter how much better he may "want to be" he's not getting another significant rise any time soon. He's made it already. So I question any remaining motivation. Interesting to see how it plays out, but history (already been to court, assaulted a team-mate other allegations to the police not followed through) doesn't bode well IMO. Or he could have done a Barton... There's plenty of time for that to happen. Edit - He just needs to make sure when and if he gets into bother, it's in Liverpool so he gets a scouse jury Edited February 2, 2011 by Toonpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 3873 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I'm hoping he is going to find himself a right bunch of dodgy scouse mates, and lets face it the place is a vermin infested shithole, and piss his carrer up the wall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentAxeman 166 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I've always described Carroll as the new Duncan Ferguson. Thats where i rate him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I've always described Carroll as the new Duncan Ferguson. Thats where i rate him. So many similarities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7061 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 (edited) Of the ones worth remembering something like this...seeing as no one else is sticking their neck out. Shearer Beardsley (not strictly a striker I know) Cole Ferdinand/Carroll Tino Ferguson Owen/Martins Sibierski Who am I forgetting who actually means anything? I never thought Fegurson was that good for us. Carroll is more mobile and did more for the team - this is why he is up so high after a short spell in the top flight. I truly think we have lost a potential international superstar and remain gutted about it. Edited February 2, 2011 by trophyshy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentAxeman 166 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I've always described Carroll as the new Duncan Ferguson. Thats where i rate him. So many similarities. Has he punched John McStay yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4460 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 As a Newcastle player he will hardly get a mention in the history books. In the list of all time NUFC goal scorers I would imagine there will be heinous creatures above him. That is the legacy this "would be Shearer" has left for himself. Thats what will be remembered long after he's hung up his boots, in not too many years. Hero to Zero. Enjoy your thirtys doing the social club talk-ins in Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 31725 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Of the ones worth remembering something like this...seeing as no one else is sticking their neck out. Shearer Beardsley (not strictly a striker I know) Cole Ferdinand/Carroll Tino Ferguson Owen/Martins Sibierski Who am I forgetting who actually means anything? I never thought Fegurson was that good for us. Carroll is more mobile and did more for the team - this is why he is up so high after a short spell in the top flight. I truly think we have lost a potential international superstar and remain gutted about it. You could put him in with that bunch, certainly not the rest, (based on his NUFC time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 As a Newcastle player he will hardly get a mention in the history books. In the list of all time NUFC goal scorers I would imagine there will be heinous creatures above him. That is the legacy this "would be Shearer" has left for himself. Thats what will be remembered long after he's hung up his boots, in not too many years. Hero to Zero. Enjoy your thirtys doing the social club talk-ins in Liverpool. At the same time (and I say this from the pov of a very disappointed fan), I bet Shearer regrets coming here instead of going to Man Utd. Carroll has a far greater chance of winning things than he ever would have here, especially under the current circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest You FCB Get Out Of Our Club Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I've always described Carroll as the new Duncan Ferguson. Thats where i rate him. So many similarities. All he needs is a hoose at Heddon on The Wall, and 200 pigeons and he's got the full set. I do think Big Dunc is a wank, AC is docile but not nasty, what Big Dunc said about Mowbray's wife is one of the biggest disgraces I've ever heard of in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 31725 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 To be fair to Carroll I'd rank him higher than TC and Rambo/Mavis. (Just). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4460 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 As a Newcastle player he will hardly get a mention in the history books. In the list of all time NUFC goal scorers I would imagine there will be heinous creatures above him. That is the legacy this "would be Shearer" has left for himself. Thats what will be remembered long after he's hung up his boots, in not too many years. Hero to Zero. Enjoy your thirtys doing the social club talk-ins in Liverpool. At the same time (and I say this from the pov of a very disappointed fan), I bet Shearer regrets coming here instead of going to Man Utd. Carroll has a far greater chance of winning things than he ever would have here, especially under the current circumstances. Possibly and possibly not. Not sure if he has ever said whether he cherishes his title medal with blackburn more or his all time goalscoring record for his home town club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 As a Newcastle player he will hardly get a mention in the history books. In the list of all time NUFC goal scorers I would imagine there will be heinous creatures above him. That is the legacy this "would be Shearer" has left for himself. Thats what will be remembered long after he's hung up his boots, in not too many years. Hero to Zero. Enjoy your thirtys doing the social club talk-ins in Liverpool. At the same time (and I say this from the pov of a very disappointed fan), I bet Shearer regrets coming here instead of going to Man Utd. Carroll has a far greater chance of winning things than he ever would have here, especially under the current circumstances. Possibly and possibly not. Not sure if he has ever said whether he cherishes his title medal with blackburn more or his all time goalscoring record for his home town club. Haddaway and shite man, of course he does. And the way in which his last couple of seasons became all about his getting that record were both an embarassment and a bit of a disgrace for a club of our size. It was a consolation prize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinofbeans 91 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 As a Newcastle player he will hardly get a mention in the history books. In the list of all time NUFC goal scorers I would imagine there will be heinous creatures above him. That is the legacy this "would be Shearer" has left for himself. Thats what will be remembered long after he's hung up his boots, in not too many years. Hero to Zero. Enjoy your thirtys doing the social club talk-ins in Liverpool. At the same time (and I say this from the pov of a very disappointed fan), I bet Shearer regrets coming here instead of going to Man Utd. Carroll has a far greater chance of winning things than he ever would have here, especially under the current circumstances. Possibly and possibly not. Not sure if he has ever said whether he cherishes his title medal with blackburn more or his all time goalscoring record for his home town club. both nice things but he could also have had a european cup winners medal and around 5 or 6 further league titles. Moot point really, as if i were him I'd have gone down the man utd route. he'd probably have been their top scorer as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7061 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 time will tell, it'll be interesting and possibly desperately sad to see him on Liverpool's all time list in five years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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