Ashley's Transfer History thread

[LeazesMag 0]

Tbh i don't really think Ashley's looking at players to improve the team in places we need. He seems to be going for players who have a minimum fee release clause/frees. So I'm expecting more players to come in, and plug gaps that we dont have or players we dont need.

 

Ba - free

Marveaux - free

Cabaye - £4.3 million release clause

N - Taylor £1000000+ release clause (although I realise we never signed him, we went in and we re close to getting him)

 

I really don't think we'd have signed these players if we had to pay a fee or larger fee for them

 

good summing up. In other words, using the club to buy cheap, and sell on. A selling club.

 

 

Thing is its Ashley's business ethic, just look at how he runs Sports Direct. Buy cheap and flog it on for a profit, why oh why some people here think he will run NUFC any differently from his other business's beats the shit out of me.

 

Thing is he already has done it differently. When he first came in he spunked money on players as well as the next playboy owner . That isn't to say he'll do it that way again necessarily, but your point is contradictory in that NUFC has already been shown to be the very enterprise in which he has departed from his 'normal business ethic'.

 

you know something we don't

[Barney 0]

Happy New Year

[LeazesMag 0]

Happy New Year

 

[sweetleftpeg 0]

We were chatting about this at 5-a-side the other night and a couple of people have a theory that the powers that be have put a transfer policy in of £5m max spend on any one player. I think what is pissing me off most about this summer is the constant bullshit wafting itself from Pardew's mouth. I do feel a bit sorry for him as he obviously has no fucking idea who is going in or out, but the whole 'Sturridge is not the type of player we want' bollocks just stunk of a man who probably would want him but he'll be more than £5m so tough titty.

 

Meh.

[StoneColdStephenIreland 74]

The point i was getting at was although i think Ba is a good signing, and Cabaye probably will be too, I dont think we'd have signed them if they were going for their market value and i think it'll happen again throughout the transfer window again

 

If Ba was going for say around his £7 million price tag that West Ham bought him for would we have signed him? I dont think so

If Cabaye was going for around £8 million which is probably his market value without his release clause, would we have signed him? I dont thinkso

[Kitman 2207]

The point i was getting at was although i think Ba is a good signing, and Cabaye probably will be too, I dont think we'd have signed them if they were going for their market value and i think it'll happen again throughout the transfer window again

 

If Ba was going for say around his £7 million price tag that West Ham bought him for would we have signed him? I dont think so

If Cabaye was going for around £8 million which is probably his market value without his release clause, would we have signed him? I dont thinkso

 

Yeah I agree with that, we're definitely shopping for bargains. I guess that's OK if they turn out to improve the team; the risk is being stuck with an Alan Smith type for 4 years who'll just sit tight and take the money (was it Winston Bogarde for Chelsea a few years back who wouldn't move on even though he was rotting in the reserves?). The worry is they're cheap for a reason.....

[Toonpack 9464]

The point i was getting at was although i think Ba is a good signing, and Cabaye probably will be too, I dont think we'd have signed them if they were going for their market value and i think it'll happen again throughout the transfer window again

 

If Ba was going for say around his £7 million price tag that West Ham bought him for would we have signed him? I dont think so

If Cabaye was going for around £8 million which is probably his market value without his release clause, would we have signed him? I dont thinkso

 

Yeah I agree with that, we're definitely shopping for bargains. I guess that's OK if they turn out to improve the team; the risk is being stuck with an Alan Smith type for 4 years who'll just sit tight and take the money (was it Winston Bogarde for Chelsea a few years back who wouldn't move on even though he was rotting in the reserves?). The worry is they're cheap for a reason.....

 

If that reason is a contractual one it's less of a worry, given the players hold all the cards these days. But if they're cheap a'la Perch then I agree.

[Ollie Burtons Grandad 0]

Tbh i don't really think Ashley's looking at players to improve the team in places we need. He seems to be going for players who have a minimum fee release clause/frees. So I'm expecting more players to come in, and plug gaps that we dont have or players we dont need.

 

Ba - free

Marveaux - free

Cabaye - £4.3 million release clause

N - Taylor £1000000+ release clause (although I realise we never signed him, we went in and we re close to getting him)

 

I really don't think we'd have signed these players if we had to pay a fee or larger fee for them

 

good summing up. In other words, using the club to buy cheap, and sell on. A selling club.

 

 

Thing is its Ashley's business ethic, just look at how he runs Sports Direct. Buy cheap and flog it on for a profit, why oh why some people here think he will run NUFC any differently from his other business's beats the shit out of me.

 

Thing is he already has done it differently. When he first came in he spunked money on players as well as the next playboy owner. That isn't to say he'll do it that way again necessarily, but your point is contradictory in that NUFC has already been shown to be the very enterprise in which he has departed from his 'normal business ethic'.

 

 

Hmm don't think so bonny lad. In Summer 2007 FCB had a net spend of around £8/9M but has spent fuck all in any transfer window since and his transfer dealings show a net profit of over £40m. How that equates to "spunking money on players" defeats me. Transfer profits are fine as long as they do not weaken the team, well the Fat Cunt has certainly done that this year. Or do you think Demba "Dodgy Knee" Ba is better than Andy Carroll?

I notice we have now seemingly pulled out of signing another new striker so FCB obviously thinks he has spent enough this window. So much for the Bullshit from Parsnip and Lambs arse.

Amazing that some people actually believe it.

[JawD 99]

So would we be happier if we paid £7-8M on Ba

[LeazesMag 0]

Tbh i don't really think Ashley's looking at players to improve the team in places we need. He seems to be going for players who have a minimum fee release clause/frees. So I'm expecting more players to come in, and plug gaps that we dont have or players we dont need.

 

Ba - free

Marveaux - free

Cabaye - £4.3 million release clause

N - Taylor £1000000+ release clause (although I realise we never signed him, we went in and we re close to getting him)

 

I really don't think we'd have signed these players if we had to pay a fee or larger fee for them

 

good summing up. In other words, using the club to buy cheap, and sell on. A selling club.

 

 

Thing is its Ashley's business ethic, just look at how he runs Sports Direct. Buy cheap and flog it on for a profit, why oh why some people here think he will run NUFC any differently from his other business's beats the shit out of me.

 

Thing is he already has done it differently. When he first came in he spunked money on players as well as the next playboy owner. That isn't to say he'll do it that way again necessarily, but your point is contradictory in that NUFC has already been shown to be the very enterprise in which he has departed from his 'normal business ethic'.

 

 

Hmm don't think so bonny lad. In Summer 2007 FCB had a net spend of around £8/9M but has spent fuck all in any transfer window since and his transfer dealings show a net profit of over £40m. How that equates to "spunking money on players" defeats me. Transfer profits are fine as long as they do not weaken the team, well the Fat Cunt has certainly done that this year. Or do you think Demba "Dodgy Knee" Ba is better than Andy Carroll?

I notice we have now seemingly pulled out of signing another new striker so FCB obviously thinks he has spent enough this window. So much for the Bullshit from Parsnip and Lambs arse.

Amazing that some people actually believe it.

 

exactly. Can't help but laugh at phrases like "spunking money" when we were playing regularly in europe and raising the revenue ie 14th biggest in football, to justify it.

 

Mike Ashley's alternative obviously reaps better rewards, in the eyes of some fools anyway.

[manc-mag 1]

Tbh i don't really think Ashley's looking at players to improve the team in places we need. He seems to be going for players who have a minimum fee release clause/frees. So I'm expecting more players to come in, and plug gaps that we dont have or players we dont need.

 

Ba - free

Marveaux - free

Cabaye - £4.3 million release clause

N - Taylor £1000000+ release clause (although I realise we never signed him, we went in and we re close to getting him)

 

I really don't think we'd have signed these players if we had to pay a fee or larger fee for them

 

good summing up. In other words, using the club to buy cheap, and sell on. A selling club.

 

 

Thing is its Ashley's business ethic, just look at how he runs Sports Direct. Buy cheap and flog it on for a profit, why oh why some people here think he will run NUFC any differently from his other business's beats the shit out of me.

 

Thing is he already has done it differently. When he first came in he spunked money on players as well as the next playboy owner. That isn't to say he'll do it that way again necessarily, but your point is contradictory in that NUFC has already been shown to be the very enterprise in which he has departed from his 'normal business ethic'.

 

 

Hmm don't think so bonny lad. In Summer 2007 FCB had a net spend of around £8/9M but has spent fuck all in any transfer window since and his transfer dealings show a net profit of over £40m. How that equates to "spunking money on players" defeats me. Transfer profits are fine as long as they do not weaken the team, well the Fat Cunt has certainly done that this year. Or do you think Demba "Dodgy Knee" Ba is better than Andy Carroll?

I notice we have now seemingly pulled out of signing another new striker so FCB obviously thinks he has spent enough this window. So much for the Bullshit from Parsnip and Lambs arse.

Amazing that some people actually believe it.

 

exactly. Can't help but laugh at phrases like "spunking money" when we were playing regularly in europe and raising the revenue ie 14th biggest in football, to justify it.

 

Mike Ashley's alternative obviously reaps better rewards, in the eyes of some fools anyway.

 

Interestingly (and you'll forgive me for this but I am a stickler for logic), if you use net transfer profit as evidence of him 'pocketing the cash', then a net transfer spend has to be evidence of the opposite approach. Which is basically all I was saying. I'm already well aware you fail to follow logical thought processes in even their most basic expression though, so we'll just leave that one there.

[Ayatollah Hermione 13891]

We spent over £20 million on three players when he first got here and 2 of them were absolutely crucial last season. Guess who they'd like to sell....

[manc-mag 1]

All three of them.

[Ollie Burtons Grandad 0]

Tbh i don't really think Ashley's looking at players to improve the team in places we need. He seems to be going for players who have a minimum fee release clause/frees. So I'm expecting more players to come in, and plug gaps that we dont have or players we dont need.

 

Ba - free

Marveaux - free

Cabaye - £4.3 million release clause

N - Taylor £1000000+ release clause (although I realise we never signed him, we went in and we re close to getting him)

 

I really don't think we'd have signed these players if we had to pay a fee or larger fee for them

 

good summing up. In other words, using the club to buy cheap, and sell on. A selling club.

 

 

Thing is its Ashley's business ethic, just look at how he runs Sports Direct. Buy cheap and flog it on for a profit, why oh why some people here think he will run NUFC any differently from his other business's beats the shit out of me.

 

Thing is he already has done it differently. When he first came in he spunked money on players as well as the next playboy owner. That isn't to say he'll do it that way again necessarily, but your point is contradictory in that NUFC has already been shown to be the very enterprise in which he has departed from his 'normal business ethic'.

 

 

Hmm don't think so bonny lad. In Summer 2007 FCB had a net spend of around £8/9M but has spent fuck all in any transfer window since and his transfer dealings show a net profit of over £40m. How that equates to "spunking money on players" defeats me. Transfer profits are fine as long as they do not weaken the team, well the Fat Cunt has certainly done that this year. Or do you think Demba "Dodgy Knee" Ba is better than Andy Carroll?

I notice we have now seemingly pulled out of signing another new striker so FCB obviously thinks he has spent enough this window. So much for the Bullshit from Parsnip and Lambs arse.

Amazing that some people actually believe it.

 

exactly. Can't help but laugh at phrases like "spunking money" when we were playing regularly in europe and raising the revenue ie 14th biggest in football, to justify it.

 

Mike Ashley's alternative obviously reaps better rewards, in the eyes of some fools anyway.

 

Interestingly (and you'll forgive me for this but I am a stickler for logic), if you use net transfer profit as evidence of him 'pocketing the cash', then a net transfer spend has to be evidence of the opposite approach. Which is basically all I was saying. I'm already well aware you fail to follow logical thought processes in even their most basic expression though, so we'll just leave that one there.

 

 

Ok then Mr Logic explain to me how making over £40 Million profit in transfer sales equates to a net Transfer spend. The clue is in the word "Profit"; there is no net Transfer spend.

If you need me to put that in even simpler terms then you are indeed a truly thick fuck

[Ollie Burtons Grandad 0]

Tbh i don't really think Ashley's looking at players to improve the team in places we need. He seems to be going for players who have a minimum fee release clause/frees. So I'm expecting more players to come in, and plug gaps that we dont have or players we dont need.

 

Ba - free

Marveaux - free

Cabaye - £4.3 million release clause

N - Taylor £1000000+ release clause (although I realise we never signed him, we went in and we re close to getting him)

 

I really don't think we'd have signed these players if we had to pay a fee or larger fee for them

 

good summing up. In other words, using the club to buy cheap, and sell on. A selling club.

 

 

Thing is its Ashley's business ethic, just look at how he runs Sports Direct. Buy cheap and flog it on for a profit, why oh why some people here think he will run NUFC any differently from his other business's beats the shit out of me.

 

Thing is he already has done it differently. When he first came in he spunked money on players as well as the next playboy owner. That isn't to say he'll do it that way again necessarily, but your point is contradictory in that NUFC has already been shown to be the very enterprise in which he has departed from his 'normal business ethic'.

 

 

Hmm don't think so bonny lad. In Summer 2007 FCB had a net spend of around £8/9M but has spent fuck all in any transfer window since and his transfer dealings show a net profit of over £40m. How that equates to "spunking money on players" defeats me. Transfer profits are fine as long as they do not weaken the team, well the Fat Cunt has certainly done that this year. Or do you think Demba "Dodgy Knee" Ba is better than Andy Carroll?

I notice we have now seemingly pulled out of signing another new striker so FCB obviously thinks he has spent enough this window. So much for the Bullshit from Parsnip and Lambs arse.

Amazing that some people actually believe it.

 

exactly. Can't help but laugh at phrases like "spunking money" when we were playing regularly in europe and raising the revenue ie 14th biggest in football, to justify it.

 

Mike Ashley's alternative obviously reaps better rewards, in the eyes of some fools anyway.

 

The FCB and Lambs Arse must be laughing their cocks off reading some of the bollocks posted by some people here. Give it another year and no one will believe that we were a good European Team once. I suppose they will all be happy that we managed to beat Spartans in the Senior Cup Final.

[ChezGiven 0]

Quite simple really, the club's income and costs are only partly affected by transfers. Whether there is a net spend or not is only loosely related to profit and cash in his pocket.

[manc-mag 1]

Quite simple really, the club's income and costs are only partly affected by transfers. Whether there is a net spend or not is only loosely related to profit and cash in his pocket.

 

In a nutshell.

 

And Ollie, fwiw, I wasn't saying that the premise itself was sound, because it isn't, I was simply pointing out that if (as is typically the case on here) people state that net 'profit' from transfer windows is evidence of him pocketing cash from the club, conversley logic dictates that a net 'spend' is him putting his hands in his own pockets. It isn't that simple for the reasons Chez mentions, but people seem quite happy to view it in those terms (wrongly). The logic applies whether the premise is sound or not however and that's basically what my original post is getting at.

 

I don't think he will return to big spending, but Leazes basically cites anything he sees as supportive of his agenda without knowing the nature or quality of what's being said.

[Happy Face 29]

Talking to people at the keegan talk in last night, I was surprised just how many of them hated ashley for filling his pockets from the club. It totally ignores the facts and displays ignorance of why he's an inept tosser.

 

It's like hating Rupert Murdoch for filling his pockets from MySpace.

 

One thing worse than an ashley fan, thats someone who hates him for the wrong reasons

Edited July 1, 2011 by Happy Face

[Barney 0]

How was it?

[LeazesMag 0]

Quite simple really, the club's income and costs are only partly affected by transfers. Whether there is a net spend or not is only loosely related to profit and cash in his pocket.

 

In a nutshell.

 

And Ollie, fwiw, I wasn't saying that the premise itself was sound, because it isn't, I was simply pointing out that if (as is typically the case on here) people state that net 'profit' from transfer windows is evidence of him pocketing cash from the club, conversley logic dictates that a net 'spend' is him putting his hands in his own pockets. It isn't that simple for the reasons Chez mentions, but people seem quite happy to view it in those terms (wrongly). The logic applies whether the premise is sound or not however and that's basically what my original post is getting at.

 

I don't think he will return to big spending, but Leazes basically cites anything he sees as supportive of his agenda without knowing the nature or quality of what's being said.

 

and your "agenda" is ?

 

You are making yourself look more and more absurd, as you continue to defend Mike Ashley and dismiss everything done by the old regime that transformed the club into one of the top clubs in europe, both in terms of european qualifications and revenues.

[Monroe Transfer 0]

Just ignore him, manc-mag.

[LeazesMag 0]

Just ignore him, manc-mag.

 

How sad a response is that ?

 

anybody, anybody at all [including you] on this message board is invited to post any factual information they like to prove what i say is incorrect.

 

They won't, because quite simply, they can't.

Edited July 2, 2011 by LeazesMag

[Gemmill 44990]

Leazes man, it's a ridiculous waste of anyone's time trying to have a discussion with you on here, be..........

 

 

I got that far, the life drained out of me, and I thought "What are you doing trying to tell him this again, you tit?"

[Ayatollah Hermione 13891]

What's the agenda, Brenda?

[LeazesMag 0]

Leazes man, it's a ridiculous waste of anyone's time trying to have a discussion with you on here, be..........

 

 

I got that far, the life drained out of me, and I thought "What are you doing trying to tell him this again, you tit?"

 

because what I say is right, and people can't seperate their personality hatred from common sense, because that is all it is.

 

Why don't you have a go at mancmag for posting nothing other than a daft jibe aimed at me ? Isn't that also sad, or is it different ?

 

Never ceases to amaze me how some people on here proclaim their superior intelligence, then make childish and irrelevant comments like 8 year olds. Why don't they use this supposed superior intelligence to show us mere mortals how we are wrong, using the facts and put up the proof. It's no good saying Mike Ashley is doing well, because he isn't, you know that, he is dragging the club downwards but these self proclaimed geniuses, rather than say it when I [and you] say it, change their agendas and their angle of "debate" according to whoever they reply to.

 

How much of the Carroll money have we seen so far ? This is the topic of the thread.