OTF 7052 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Emre was sold for EU4.5m, roughly GBP3.8M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 There's no excuse this window for not having a go. How much have Southampton spent? £30m? Crystal Palace paying £9m for players, Crystal fucking Palace! They're doing it because of the extra £20m-£30m each club will get this year from Sky. We've been making profits without this, so there is literally no excuse. All of this gives me extra hope that maybe we really will be sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 31434 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 There's no excuse this window for not having a go. How much have Southampton spent? £30m? Crystal Palace paying £9m for players, Crystal fucking Palace! They're doing it because of the extra £20m-£30m each club will get this year from Sky. We've been making profits without this, so there is literally no excuse. All of this gives me extra hope that maybe we really will be sold. I'd love to think that but I just think he isn't capable of it. An owner who cared would gladly sell to someone who could better the club, (Step forward john hall and look down at your shoes in shame), I'd love to know the full truth about Ashley's attempt to get a buyer in Dubai before Man City's owners bought them, pretty sure he made a tit of himself with Jimenez and Vetere and didn't leave a good impression over there. (I wonder what happened to them? Do all Ashley's lackeys get binned off after a while?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 99 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 There's no excuse this window for not having a go. How much have Southampton spent? £30m? Crystal Palace paying £9m for players, Crystal fucking Palace! They're doing it because of the extra £20m-£30m each club will get this year from Sky. We've been making profits without this, so there is literally no excuse. All of this gives me extra hope that maybe we really will be sold. Im convinced MA is going to take a fat wedge out of the club to repay his "lending" and thus reduce the overall asking price he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted August 21, 2013 Author Share Posted August 21, 2013 As it stands, for every £1 earned from outgoing transfers, Ashley spends 86p on incoming transfers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 29419 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Im convinced MA is going to take a fat wedge out of the club to repay his "lending" and thus reduce the overall asking price he wants. It's certainly looking like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 As it stands, for every £1 earned from outgoing transfers, Ashley spends 86p on incoming transfers. Where's the Carroll money?? [/ne5] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Don't get me wrong, imo Lee Ryder is to journalism as to what Genghis Khan was to contraceptives, but I have to say this is an excellent most agreeable piece. http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/lee-ryder-newcastle-united-fc-5760251?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted August 21, 2013 Author Share Posted August 21, 2013 I'm 2 sentences in..."Geordies"..."Toon Army"....."Sick as a parrot" CLeeche Ryder tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 29419 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 It really isn't. He's echoing the fans' frustrations but it's not a good piece. Any article that uses the word 'squillions' is nearly automatically going to be poor. Not be mention the following line: I am sorry, though, I don’t buy the theory Newcastle cannot compete with City when it comes to transfers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 It really isn't. He's echoing the fans' frustrations but it's not a good piece. Any article that uses the word 'squillions' is nearly automatically going to be poor. Not be mention the following line: I wasn't on about his linguistic skills more than actual message behind it which is spot on. It's obvious the bloke is a spanner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 The general sentiments are alright, just isn't well formulated. I still think two players will come in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2204 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Why the fuck do we have to sell a top player before we can reinforcements? I don't understand how there is no money there to conclude our business. It looks like we've waited till the end of the window and we've got a concrete offer before we get our arse in gear. Crazy and baffling way to run things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 16474 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Why the fuck do we have to sell a top player before we can reinforcements? I don't understand how there is no money there to conclude our business. It looks like we've waited till the end of the window and we've got a concrete offer before we get our arse in gear. Crazy and baffling way to run things Because if you're not putting any of your own money in thats how its done. As a few have said, if we were likely to "trade up" and bring a potentially better player in that Cabaye then I'd be all for it. But we're just buying to stay in the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 29419 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Because if you're not putting any of your own money in thats how its done. As a few have said, if we were likely to "trade up" and bring a potentially better player in that Cabaye then I'd be all for it. But we're just buying to stay in the division. It's not just about using our own money. My own theory is that Ashley is intending to run the club on last year's financial plan and will be pocketing the extra TV money himself to repay his loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 16474 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 It's not just about using our own money. My own theory is that Ashley is intending to run the club on last year's financial plan and will be pocketing the extra TV money himself to repay his loan. I do actually think we're entering the final phase of his time here....but that could last 18 months or so. When he can sell for a realistic price after trousering the tv money and the odd 5mill or so that may be left over from selling the likes of Cabaye once we've spent the bare minimum to keep us in the division, then he'll sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I do actually think we're entering the final phase of his time here....but that could last 18 months or so. When he can sell for a realistic price after trousering the tv money and the odd 5mill or so that may be left over from selling the likes of Cabaye once we've spent the bare minimum to keep us in the division, then he'll sell. 2 seasons max left I reckons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobos 297 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 (edited) Because if you're not putting any of your own money in thats how its done. As a few have said, if we were likely to "trade up" and bring a potentially better player in that Cabaye then I'd be all for it. But we're just buying to stay in the division. I do actually think we're entering the final phase of his time here....but that could last 18 months or so. When he can sell for a realistic price after trousering the tv money and the odd 5mill or so that may be left over from selling the likes of Cabaye once we've spent the bare minimum to keep us in the division, then he'll sell. I don't get how the first and second statements aren't contradictory. And 86p of every pound Happy Face- WHATWHATWHAT? My horrible thought is that he wont ever leave us until the FA or someone regulates this somehow. If he sees he can pull in 50 mil or so a year, he will stay and continue on this tact. Its pretty obvious its all about the money for him, why would that change? This rich owner thing is fine when they are plowing money in, but no other club has an owner who's intention is to rake it in. Even rich owners ploughing money in as a problem I reckon, as its anti competitive and against the spirit of the sport) If he did this tactic a bit more steadily, he could cream 10-20 mil out of us year on year Edited August 21, 2013 by scoobos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3693 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I don't get how the first and second statements aren't contradictory. And 86p of every pound Happy Face- WHATWHATWHAT? My horrible thought is that he wont ever leave us until the FA or someone regulates this somehow. If he sees he can pull in 50 mil or so a year, he will stay and continue on this tact. Its pretty obvious its all about the money for him, why would that change? If he did this tactic a bit more steadily, he could cream 10-20 mil out of us year on year ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobos 297 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 (edited) ?? How much income do you think he's going to make this year and last for the club? I know he's got loans to himself to repay right now, but it wont be forever. If he can continue to bring in his green players, put a purple tag on them and sell at 100% mark up, once his debt is repaid do you think he'll turn his back on that? Look at cabaye, he's turned down a 100% mark up for him already wanting more, he cant get that sort of margin in his shitty shops. Edited August 21, 2013 by scoobos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted August 21, 2013 Author Share Posted August 21, 2013 And 86p of every pound Happy Face- WHATWHATWHAT? If he did this tactic a bit more steadily, he could cream 10-20 mil out of us year on year ?? Transfer income over the past 7 years is £122m. Transfer spend in the same perod is £105m. He has "creamed off" £15m in all those 7 years. If he spends the next decade earning enough at the club that he is able to cream off £20m a year then he'll be doing a lot better than he has previously. Far preferable to not having that kind of income, down in the championship or owt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobos 297 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 (edited) So we don't get revenue from any other source? No tv money, selling on fees, tickets etc? Its a pretty good setup he's got. I'm not saying your full of shit, I just find it hard to believe that stat Happy Face, though I know its right.. it just feels the complete opposite. Like he's spending. But on his low cost to sell on high value players. Cabaye sale will fudge those figures by 10 mil if he sells for 15 tomorrow, then it will be 25 mil plus the tv money . Edited August 21, 2013 by scoobos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted August 21, 2013 Author Share Posted August 21, 2013 That's based on Transfers only. Because it's a thread about transfer income and spend. The club has other income. But Ashley has only ever taken one payment out of the club in all his time here. Last seasons £15m or whatever it was. If you want to look at Ashley's personal profit/loss based on all income and outgoing, then he's massively in the hole having invested £250m+ and got back £15m. He's got 5p back for every pound he has put in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 16474 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 That's based on Transfers only. Because it's a thread about transfer income and spend. The club has other income. But Ashley has only ever taken one payment out of the club in all his time here. Last seasons £15m or whatever it was. If you want to look at Ashley's personal profit/loss based on all income and outgoing, then he's massively in the hole having invested £250m+ and got back £15m. He's got 5p back for every pound he has put in. Having made the club more financially stable, along with the new TV deal, I think he may be in a posistion to start getting his outlay down to the level required to make the club sellable again. He needs another 100mill at least though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted August 21, 2013 Author Share Posted August 21, 2013 Having made the club more financially stable Sorry to be picky, but I would be more inclined to say he has financed our declining income, rather than make us financially stable. Freddy Shepherd could have stopped buying expensive players too. Ashley's done no more than that. Agree though, just waiting it out until the TV money went up made the club a far better prospect...if he doesn't get us relegated again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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