Liverpool bid £35 million+ for Carroll

[Park Life 71]

Tbh Villa would take 25m for Ashley Young.

[Scottish Mag 3]

Rohan Ricketts on Twitter

 

Torres = £50m

Carroll = £35m

Szczesny-Clichy-Djourou-Vermaelen-Sagna -Nasri -Walcott -Fabregas -Song -Wilshere - RVP = £44m

[Dr. Richard Kimble 0]

Big clubs are willing to speculate. Thats the difference.

 

We are a farm club.

 

Aye since Ashley brought in Wise then Kinnear Ashley reduced the club to Hicksville United.

[Kitman 2207]

Big clubs are willing to speculate. Thats the difference.

 

We are a farm club.

 

Aye since Ashley brought in Wise then Kinnear Ashley reduced the club to Hicksville United.

 

Wurzel Gummidge on loan till the end of the season?

[shackbleep 0]

Cant believe people are taking this transfer request as a straight up wish for AC to leave. All too convenient for Ashley imo. Deflecting stick away from him to the player.

 

I'm with you on this one - Carroll gets told to put in a transfer request so that the deal moves on quickly.

 

At the end of the day it's a job and Liverpool are offering him double, perhaps triple the wages. We can't truly hope to hang on to any player who is wanted by another club so long as we employ a breadline salary structure.

 

The club will no doubt play the card that they reluctantly accepted his request and are bitterly disappointed to see him go. Truth is, if they had any intention on keeping him they'd have matched the wages Liverpool are offering. But they didn't.

[sniffer 0]

Tbh Villa would take 25m for Ashley Young.

 

I'm sure they would if anybody was stupid enough to pay it.

[LeazesMag 0]

Cant believe people are taking this transfer request as a straight up wish for AC to leave. All too convenient for Ashley imo. Deflecting stick away from him to the player.

 

I'm with you on this one - Carroll gets told to put in a transfer request so that the deal moves on quickly.

 

At the end of the day it's a job and Liverpool are offering him double, perhaps triple the wages. We can't truly hope to hang on to any player who is wanted by another club so long as we employ a breadline salary structure.

 

The club will no doubt play the card that they reluctantly accepted his request and are bitterly disappointed to see him go. Truth is, if they had any intention on keeping him they'd have matched the wages Liverpool are offering. But they didn't.

 

thats what they used to say when Gazza, Beardsley and Waddle went too mate.

[Monkeys Fist 43115]

We shouldn't go down, but we've given ourselves a better chance than we had this time yesterday. Top bombing Mike.

I hate Ashley's guts but even I'm not blaming him for Carroll handing in a transfer request.

 

Agree with you mate. It's a fix and was dusted way before today imo.

The die was cast the day Pardew walked through the door and hooked himself onto the puppet strings.

 

This is what depresses me about this sale.

It's the clear, clear statement to any fan that the outright lies are continuing, and don't bother getting too worked up about any talent. If they are any good, they'll be on their way.

[shackbleep 0]

As usual, the only losers in this transfer merry go round are us.

 

Benjani anybody?

 

Amazing really that you consider Liverpool deliberately stalled the Torres sale until they knew they had Carroll in the bag. We just look like fucking amateurs. And we are!

[Mr Lahey 0]

Haven't watched SSN since they took it off freeview. Just found a stream, fuck me Georgie Thompson would get her pastie smashed and no mistake.

[Gemmill 46088]

Big clubs are willing to speculate. Thats the difference.

 

We are a farm club.

 

Aye since Ashley brought in Wise then Kinnear Ashley reduced the club to Hicksville United.

 

Wurzel Gummidge on loan till the end of the season?

 

Got a good head on his shoulders.

[BigAl 0]

Not if darren Bent is worth 24 mill

 

He's not though really, is he, fucking madness all round

 

Bent is not worth that sort of money but he has scored goals in the premiership for a number of seasons unlike Carroll who has had a good start to his premiership career and nothing more.

 

Football has gone mental

[BigAl 0]

Cant believe people are taking this transfer request as a straight up wish for AC to leave. All too convenient for Ashley imo. Deflecting stick away from him to the player.

 

I'm with you on this one - Carroll gets told to put in a transfer request so that the deal moves on quickly.

 

At the end of the day it's a job and Liverpool are offering him double, perhaps triple the wages. We can't truly hope to hang on to any player who is wanted by another club so long as we employ a breadline salary structure.

 

The club will no doubt play the card that they reluctantly accepted his request and are bitterly disappointed to see him go. Truth is, if they had any intention on keeping him they'd have matched the wages Liverpool are offering. But they didn't.

 

thats what they used to say when Gazza, Beardsley and Waddle went too mate.

 

Gazza, Beardsley and Waddle were in a different class to Carroll.

[zico martin 90]

does anyone think the bin dippers will be happy with this sale though. Are there many players they couldn't have got for £37M ?

[LeazesMag 0]

does anyone think the bin dippers will be happy with this sale though. Are there many players they couldn't have got for £37M ?

 

of course, Liverpool have been getting it all wrong for over 40 years. They should be doing it the Mike Ashley way.

[Park Life 71]

does anyone think the bin dippers will be happy with this sale though. Are there many players they couldn't have got for £37M ?

 

Torres is x3 the player Carroll is.

[LeazesMag 0]

Cant believe people are taking this transfer request as a straight up wish for AC to leave. All too convenient for Ashley imo. Deflecting stick away from him to the player.

 

I'm with you on this one - Carroll gets told to put in a transfer request so that the deal moves on quickly.

 

At the end of the day it's a job and Liverpool are offering him double, perhaps triple the wages. We can't truly hope to hang on to any player who is wanted by another club so long as we employ a breadline salary structure.

 

The club will no doubt play the card that they reluctantly accepted his request and are bitterly disappointed to see him go. Truth is, if they had any intention on keeping him they'd have matched the wages Liverpool are offering. But they didn't.

 

thats what they used to say when Gazza, Beardsley and Waddle went too mate.

 

Gazza, Beardsley and Waddle were in a different class to Carroll.

 

 

they were also different types of players, but the point is exactly the same.

[trophyshy 7084]

 

I wonder if he hadn't done that against them?

[Guest]

They've made enquiries and we've told them no. Im sure we'll do the same again.

 

We'll see. We'd be rejecting offers now anyway, whether we intend on keeping him or not. The time to get smug about rejected offers is 1st Feb, cos then we'll know that we weren't just holding out for a bigger offer on the last day of the window.

 

Is that the same time the humble pie gets eaten......I doubt it.

 

Humble pie about what? Nobody wants him sold, but people are rightly concerned. Why do you have to try and lord it over people and insist they eat humble pie?

 

When I say that the time to be smug is on Feb 1, that's not strictly true. What I should say is that while the rest of us choose to be relieved that we kept our best player, knowing what you're like, you won't be able to stop crowing about how you predicted it all and acting the smug prick. And a better time for THAT would be Feb 1st. Although tbh there's never a good time for that sort of shit.

 

 

So Im smug for being pleased we've YET AGAIN, turned down an offer, but others in this thread who claim the deals being done all along shouldnt eat humble pie on 1st Feb..

 

What utter fucking TOSH.

 

ASM is right, come 1st Feb, the usual nay sayers will be spouting about how the clubs just waiting til the summer to get more money.....and so it goes on.

 

TIT

 

CT, you're a fuckin pleb man, not so much as Skidders like, but you are talking about selling Carroll in January/August etc, you are talking about WHEN Carroll will be sold.

 

Mate, nothing is as sure as this club will, eventually, lose Carroll and Enrique to one of the top clubs attempting to win the trophies and play in europe, and they will be happy to leave when the penny drops when they realise they have to make this move for their career ambitions.

 

Do you want to know what will help convince them to stay, and build on this "platform he has started" ? Its quite simple man, all Mike Ashley has to do is buy a couple of quality players like Carroll and Enrique to show them that THIS club is trying to go places, this will also correctly bring about a u-turn in attitudes among supporters of the club towards him and his ambitions for the club.

 

It's THAT simple man.

 

 

Tiote? Ben Arfa?

exactly and not too expensive either.

 

so do you think it is possible to put together a team to consistently play in europe and/or the Champions League rummaging around the basement transfer market ?

 

 

I wouldnt say Tiote nor Barfa were basement bargains...far from it. Clever business.

 

You can assemble a quality squad without spending alot of money if you have a quality scouting network in place and then know how to manage them.

 

That isn't what I asked.

 

And Tiote and Ben Arfa were relatively cheapish buys in todays market.

 

Exactly.

 

Ben Arfa was nearing the end of his contract [heading into his final 12 months], and his disciplinary issues with OM probably devalued his true market value at the time when he effectively talked himself out other feasible options [permanent transfers] were avilable, when Ashley was lurking in the background with a loan offer [minus a concrete 'to buy' figure set in the loan contract] which amounted to Venus Fly Trap [with all the bargaining power in Ashley's court] in waiting.

 

And Tiote is one of those 'chancer' & inexpensive type of signings, a player in development whose attributes [physical attributes & his reading of the play] have made for an immediate impact in the physical & fast paced nature of the top flight. The most comparible signing in the premiership era would be Viera: a peripheral figure at his former club [Milan], but like Tiote made added steel to Wenger's overall football philosophy re. their outfield play, and hence a pivotal signing. Credit goes to the scouting department in this case, but they don't always come off ie. Guppy & Huckerby under KK. It's still an extremely hit & miss transfer policy, to rely on 'chancer' signings.

 

Tiote & Ben Arfa are gifts. We've been the beneficiaries of a combination of good scouting and a volatile/ugly 'player vs club & manager' situation. Players of this ability don't consistently drop into your lap, for next to peanuts in today's market at a highly consistent rate. Even Arsenal/Wenger hunt down & ultimately are prepared to fork out the going rate for those youngsters deemed to be in the top echelon of the talent pool, this why talk of Ashley trying to emulate 'the Arsenal Model' is offensive.

 

But the sort of signings we should be aiming for, you have be prepared to go that extra yard. Instead trolling around for mid-late 20's players in the lower leagues a kid like Delph [identified by KK], under a lengthy contract at Leeds, was exactly the type of emerging & dominating talent we should be trying to sign from the lower divisions. The prospect of a shaft type of move [where a compensation via tribunal ruling was out of the question] wasn't a feasible option. Instead Ashley/Dekka tabled an offer which brought about a reportedly colorful response from Bates.

 

Under the previous regime such signings [ie Jenas] were completed with the upmost of professionalism............ or in the case of Delph [as KK suggested] did Ashley & Dekka purposely underbid for a player in their attempts to push the manager to the periphery of the squad's building plans. Either way it's embarrasing running of the club.

 

common sense which still escapes some people, it would appear.

 

Todays news is gutting and absolutely no surprise at all, tbh

 

 

Get fucked you silly old cunt, why only turn up on here after the bids been accepted? You fuckin' love it, get fuckin' wankin.

 

aye of course you stupid little arsehole I've always said how going back to the 70's and 80's would be great. We are a selling club again, get used to it.

 

If the club wasn't left in financial ruins by the previous regime then perhaps we'd have coughed up for a better contract for him.

[Kevin 1]

Fuck off skid mark you useless fucking cunt

[zico martin 90]

They've made enquiries and we've told them no. Im sure we'll do the same again.

 

We'll see. We'd be rejecting offers now anyway, whether we intend on keeping him or not. The time to get smug about rejected offers is 1st Feb, cos then we'll know that we weren't just holding out for a bigger offer on the last day of the window.

 

Is that the same time the humble pie gets eaten......I doubt it.

 

Humble pie about what? Nobody wants him sold, but people are rightly concerned. Why do you have to try and lord it over people and insist they eat humble pie?

 

When I say that the time to be smug is on Feb 1, that's not strictly true. What I should say is that while the rest of us choose to be relieved that we kept our best player, knowing what you're like, you won't be able to stop crowing about how you predicted it all and acting the smug prick. And a better time for THAT would be Feb 1st. Although tbh there's never a good time for that sort of shit.

 

 

So Im smug for being pleased we've YET AGAIN, turned down an offer, but others in this thread who claim the deals being done all along shouldnt eat humble pie on 1st Feb..

 

What utter fucking TOSH.

 

ASM is right, come 1st Feb, the usual nay sayers will be spouting about how the clubs just waiting til the summer to get more money.....and so it goes on.

 

TIT

 

CT, you're a fuckin pleb man, not so much as Skidders like, but you are talking about selling Carroll in January/August etc, you are talking about WHEN Carroll will be sold.

 

Mate, nothing is as sure as this club will, eventually, lose Carroll and Enrique to one of the top clubs attempting to win the trophies and play in europe, and they will be happy to leave when the penny drops when they realise they have to make this move for their career ambitions.

 

Do you want to know what will help convince them to stay, and build on this "platform he has started" ? Its quite simple man, all Mike Ashley has to do is buy a couple of quality players like Carroll and Enrique to show them that THIS club is trying to go places, this will also correctly bring about a u-turn in attitudes among supporters of the club towards him and his ambitions for the club.

 

It's THAT simple man.

 

 

Tiote? Ben Arfa?

exactly and not too expensive either.

 

so do you think it is possible to put together a team to consistently play in europe and/or the Champions League rummaging around the basement transfer market ?

 

 

I wouldnt say Tiote nor Barfa were basement bargains...far from it. Clever business.

 

You can assemble a quality squad without spending alot of money if you have a quality scouting network in place and then know how to manage them.

 

That isn't what I asked.

 

And Tiote and Ben Arfa were relatively cheapish buys in todays market.

 

Exactly.

 

Ben Arfa was nearing the end of his contract [heading into his final 12 months], and his disciplinary issues with OM probably devalued his true market value at the time when he effectively talked himself out other feasible options [permanent transfers] were avilable, when Ashley was lurking in the background with a loan offer [minus a concrete 'to buy' figure set in the loan contract] which amounted to Venus Fly Trap [with all the bargaining power in Ashley's court] in waiting.

 

And Tiote is one of those 'chancer' & inexpensive type of signings, a player in development whose attributes [physical attributes & his reading of the play] have made for an immediate impact in the physical & fast paced nature of the top flight. The most comparible signing in the premiership era would be Viera: a peripheral figure at his former club [Milan], but like Tiote made added steel to Wenger's overall football philosophy re. their outfield play, and hence a pivotal signing. Credit goes to the scouting department in this case, but they don't always come off ie. Guppy & Huckerby under KK. It's still an extremely hit & miss transfer policy, to rely on 'chancer' signings.

 

Tiote & Ben Arfa are gifts. We've been the beneficiaries of a combination of good scouting and a volatile/ugly 'player vs club & manager' situation. Players of this ability don't consistently drop into your lap, for next to peanuts in today's market at a highly consistent rate. Even Arsenal/Wenger hunt down & ultimately are prepared to fork out the going rate for those youngsters deemed to be in the top echelon of the talent pool, this why talk of Ashley trying to emulate 'the Arsenal Model' is offensive.

 

But the sort of signings we should be aiming for, you have be prepared to go that extra yard. Instead trolling around for mid-late 20's players in the lower leagues a kid like Delph [identified by KK], under a lengthy contract at Leeds, was exactly the type of emerging & dominating talent we should be trying to sign from the lower divisions. The prospect of a shaft type of move [where a compensation via tribunal ruling was out of the question] wasn't a feasible option. Instead Ashley/Dekka tabled an offer which brought about a reportedly colorful response from Bates.

 

Under the previous regime such signings [ie Jenas] were completed with the upmost of professionalism............ or in the case of Delph [as KK suggested] did Ashley & Dekka purposely underbid for a player in their attempts to push the manager to the periphery of the squad's building plans. Either way it's embarrasing running of the club.

 

common sense which still escapes some people, it would appear.

 

Todays news is gutting and absolutely no surprise at all, tbh

 

 

Get fucked you silly old cunt, why only turn up on here after the bids been accepted? You fuckin' love it, get fuckin' wankin.

 

aye of course you stupid little arsehole I've always said how going back to the 70's and 80's would be great. We are a selling club again, get used to it.

 

If the club wasn't left in financial ruins by the previous regime then perhaps we'd have coughed up for a better contract for him.

 

 

oh not now man, please!

[Dr Gloom 22185]

I agree with leazesmag. It's a sad day for the club, particularly if some of the money isn't revinvested quickly and wisely.

 

However, it does look a stupid fee and hopefully one we look back upon as too good to turn down. It just sends out all the wrong messages about the direction the club is taking... Again

[Guest]

Fuck off skid mark you useless fucking cunt

 

 

Go fuck yourself you silly little paddy prick, nobody can be fuckin' arsed with you on here. When you've actually seen a game of football come back with an opinion you little cunt.

[Kevin 1]

Fuck off skid mark you useless fucking cunt

 

 

Go fuck yourself you silly little paddy prick, nobody can be fuckin' arsed with you on here. When you've actually seen a game of football come back with an opinion you little cunt.

 

Ironic coming from the twat who is regularly told to fuck off

[Guest]

Fuck off skid mark you useless fucking cunt

 

 

Go fuck yourself you silly little paddy prick, nobody can be fuckin' arsed with you on here. When you've actually seen a game of football come back with an opinion you little cunt.

 

Ironic coming from the twat who is regularly told to fuck off

 

 

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