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Carroll's a big fish in a small pond up here and you can tell he loves it, he's got all his old mates etc thinking he's the dogs nuts and no doubt has his pick of slappers on nights oot. This is what he's dreamed of growing up playing in SJP etc, I know it sounds corny but it's true we all dream of playing there when we're little. If Ashley accepts (which as much as he's a cunt as others have pointed out there's been no proof so far he'd cash in on a young star), then obviously it's up to Andy and I'm not sure if he'd want to go to London and become just another footballer, plus let's be honest he'd lose his head down there he's off his rocker up here let alone in a place like London.

It's not that small a pond though. If Tottenham's pond is the one at Paddy Freeman's Park wors is the one in Leazes Park. You get more scutiny and attention playing for Newcastle than you do for them. Other than two quick games against AC Milan to say he's played in the CL, I don't see the attraction of uprooting everything to go there.

Aye I meant more Newcastle to London, as in he's the star player at a city with only one club whereas in London he'd be a star player at the 3rd biggest in that city. I know what you're saying also Gemmil but it's most players ideals these days, Gary Speed types are very rare.

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Cannit understand any of yous saying he'll defo not go. What a load of shite. If they've actually tabled an offer of that amount, I can see Ashley accepting then leaving it up to Andy.

 

Oh, dispute it all you want but their club's run ten times better than ours and they're far far ahead of us on the pitch. I don't know how anyone could say they're a nothing club and all that shit cos they've got a smaller crowd.

 

Hope this isn't true.

Dont worry, we wont accept the bid

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

until 23:55 on Monday :lol:

He's reporting the breaking news from The Sun, no less.

 

It's not like the Sun wouldn't know if that ringpiece Redknapp had made an offer, with all his mates in the media.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if it's true, and I wouldn't be surprised if it gets accepted. Then it's up to Carroll, and from a career perspective it's a bit of a no-brainer.

 

There's no doubt the bid is true. Mac your respect for Tottenham surprises me. They are a well run club yes. Newcastle United have reached higher heights in the last 15 years than Tottenham will EVER do, we are a club with potential and imo a bigger name than Tottenham. If this was Chelsea or Man Utd, I'd be slightly worried however I genuinely believe Carroll wants to stay here for most of his career. He hasn't got that strength of character or intelligence to cope with London, people who live there will no what I mean, if he moved to London he'd end up with a life off the pitch worse than Gazza there ye are. I'm prepared to put my money where my mouth is. £20 bet anyone who wants it that he'll be at the toon on Feb1st.

 

If Mashley has any brains and Carroll becomes and Eng regular and carries on scoring he can get double 2/3 years down the road. Think Carroll wants to stay, he will only go if they tell him they want/need the money etc...

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The one thing I'll say is if the FCB was bold enough to lift this pathetic media blackout and actually say himself what is going on, maybe we wouldn't all be calling eachother mongs and what have ye. Pardew, and I'll give him respect for it has come out and said he won't be leaving but that means nothing to the reality of the situation.

 

This is how I'd simplify the situation;

 

Carroll's class, Spurs have plenty money to spend and are in a better and more willing state to offer players what they want i.e lowie and high standard football. This is at the moment btw, I know they've normally had their end of season party by now but they do have a very very good squad. I don't particularly like Spurs but I like how they've grown as a club on and off the pitch in recent years. Players see this aswell, I'd assume. We're a massive club, amazing fans, the works but we aren't in a position to challenge the top4, which I personally think Spurs can. Sad, but it's true at the moment.

 

What helps us in comparison to say Bent leaving them bamps is that he's got the club in his heart and seems a down to earth lad who knows he's at a club he dreamed of playing for. I doubt it'd be a massive lure to want to play for spurs which would drive him to leave, and more the will to achieve. He will be Englands long term number9 and in this day and age these types of player will always generate massive interest worldwide.

 

Maybe he will stay, maybe he'll leave but I'd guarantee if it's not spurs coming in now, it'll be a bigger club in the summer or next summer .. This will test Ashleys resolve and give an indication of our future if it's shown we accept or reject said 'bid'.

Good post in some respects but the bit in bold, if FMA was looking at it from a business perspective and he's the country's number 9 for years, surely it would be better to wait 3 or 4 years to cash in. £25m isn't that much in modern football, when you look at Kaka who's been finished 3 years went for £57m.

That's what I mean though mate, it'll test the resolve of Ashley and I think he's the type who knows how to work a deal and take risks but when that money's dangled in front of his dish he mightn't want to risk it never coming again.

 

Surely it would be better to wait I agree, everyone would agree, but I just don't trust him and don't believe what people are saying about he wouldn't do it because of the potential 'backlash from the fans' cos we aal naa he couldn't give a monkeys what we think. This rumour'll run forever tbh, cos he's so good and we can't trust the owner given his previous.

 

Great for us fans, eh!

 

I'll say it again though, this media blackout's fucking ridiculous for the transparancy of what their plans are etc. Whilst we just sit and pray.

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Magpies reject £23m Carroll bid

Tottenham see renewed approach rejected as 'paltry'

 

By Rob Parrish - Follow me on Twitter @skysportsrobp Last updated: 29th January 2011

 

 

Carroll: Spurs interest

 

 

Newcastle have rejected a new £23million bid from Tottenham for striker Andy Carroll, Sky Sports News understands.

 

The England international has enjoyed an impressive debut season in the Premier League, bagging 11 Premier League goals before being sidelined by a thigh injury.

 

Carroll's displays in leading the line for the Magpies has attracted interest from a number of rival top-flight teams, with Harry Redknapp keen to bring the powerful forward to White Hart Lane.

 

The North East club are determined to retain the services of their star man and have rebuffed all offers for his services, with Spurs' latest offer drawing a terse response.

 

Not for sale

 

A high-ranking Newcastle official told Sky Sports News: "The club would like to make it clear for the very last time that Carroll is simply not for sale."

 

The source went on to describe the bid from Tottenham as 'paltry in the current climate'.

 

Magpies boss Alan Pardew has always stressed his determination to keep hold of his key players during January as he looks to establish the club back in the top flight.

 

And with the transfer window due to close at 11pm on Monday, it remains to be seen if Spurs will return with an improved offer.

 

 

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Im sure the same people in here saying the deals being done all along are also the same people who a week or so ago were saying that theres never being an offer!

 

Conspiracytastic.

 

They've made enquiries and we've told them no. Im sure we'll do the same again.

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Im sure the same people in here saying the deals being done all along are also the same people who a week or so ago were saying that theres never being an offer!

 

Conspiracytastic.

 

They've made enquiries and we've told them no. Im sure we'll do the same again.

 

 

Damn....Should have gone in Stevies prediction thread :lol:

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The one thing I'll say is if the FCB was bold enough to lift this pathetic media blackout and actually say himself what is going on, maybe we wouldn't all be calling eachother mongs and what have ye. Pardew, and I'll give him respect for it has come out and said he won't be leaving but that means nothing to the reality of the situation.

 

This is how I'd simplify the situation;

 

Carroll's class, Spurs have plenty money to spend and are in a better and more willing state to offer players what they want i.e lowie and high standard football. This is at the moment btw, I know they've normally had their end of season party by now but they do have a very very good squad. I don't particularly like Spurs but I like how they've grown as a club on and off the pitch in recent years. Players see this aswell, I'd assume. We're a massive club, amazing fans, the works but we aren't in a position to challenge the top4, which I personally think Spurs can. Sad, but it's true at the moment.

 

What helps us in comparison to say Bent leaving them bamps is that he's got the club in his heart and seems a down to earth lad who knows he's at a club he dreamed of playing for. I doubt it'd be a massive lure to want to play for spurs which would drive him to leave, and more the will to achieve. He will be Englands long term number9 and in this day and age these types of player will always generate massive interest worldwide.

 

Maybe he will stay, maybe he'll leave but I'd guarantee if it's not spurs coming in now, it'll be a bigger club in the summer or next summer .. This will test Ashleys resolve and give an indication of our future if it's shown we accept or reject said 'bid'.

Good post in some respects but the bit in bold, if FMA was looking at it from a business perspective and he's the country's number 9 for years, surely it would be better to wait 3 or 4 years to cash in. £25m isn't that much in modern football, when you look at Kaka who's been finished 3 years went for £57m.

That's what I mean though mate, it'll test the resolve of Ashley and I think he's the type who knows how to work a deal and take risks but when that money's dangled in front of his dish he mightn't want to risk it never coming again.

 

Surely it would be better to wait I agree, everyone would agree, but I just don't trust him and don't believe what people are saying about he wouldn't do it because of the potential 'backlash from the fans' cos we aal naa he couldn't give a monkeys what we think. This rumour'll run forever tbh, cos he's so good and we can't trust the owner given his previous.

 

Great for us fans, eh!

 

I'll say it again though, this media blackout's fucking ridiculous for the transparancy of what their plans are etc. Whilst we just sit and pray.

If his plans were good news for the club there wouldn’t be an information blackout.

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The one thing I'll say is if the FCB was bold enough to lift this pathetic media blackout and actually say himself what is going on, maybe we wouldn't all be calling eachother mongs and what have ye. Pardew, and I'll give him respect for it has come out and said he won't be leaving but that means nothing to the reality of the situation.

 

This is how I'd simplify the situation;

 

Carroll's class, Spurs have plenty money to spend and are in a better and more willing state to offer players what they want i.e lowie and high standard football. This is at the moment btw, I know they've normally had their end of season party by now but they do have a very very good squad. I don't particularly like Spurs but I like how they've grown as a club on and off the pitch in recent years. Players see this aswell, I'd assume. We're a massive club, amazing fans, the works but we aren't in a position to challenge the top4, which I personally think Spurs can. Sad, but it's true at the moment.

 

What helps us in comparison to say Bent leaving them bamps is that he's got the club in his heart and seems a down to earth lad who knows he's at a club he dreamed of playing for. I doubt it'd be a massive lure to want to play for spurs which would drive him to leave, and more the will to achieve. He will be Englands long term number9 and in this day and age these types of player will always generate massive interest worldwide.

 

Maybe he will stay, maybe he'll leave but I'd guarantee if it's not spurs coming in now, it'll be a bigger club in the summer or next summer .. This will test Ashleys resolve and give an indication of our future if it's shown we accept or reject said 'bid'.

Good post in some respects but the bit in bold, if FMA was looking at it from a business perspective and he's the country's number 9 for years, surely it would be better to wait 3 or 4 years to cash in. £25m isn't that much in modern football, when you look at Kaka who's been finished 3 years went for £57m.

That's what I mean though mate, it'll test the resolve of Ashley and I think he's the type who knows how to work a deal and take risks but when that money's dangled in front of his dish he mightn't want to risk it never coming again.

 

Surely it would be better to wait I agree, everyone would agree, but I just don't trust him and don't believe what people are saying about he wouldn't do it because of the potential 'backlash from the fans' cos we aal naa he couldn't give a monkeys what we think. This rumour'll run forever tbh, cos he's so good and we can't trust the owner given his previous.

 

Great for us fans, eh!

 

I'll say it again though, this media blackout's fucking ridiculous for the transparancy of what their plans are etc. Whilst we just sit and pray.

If his plans were good news for the club there wouldn’t be an information blackout.

 

 

Aye, cos the press only write positive stuff about good people.

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They've made enquiries and we've told them no. Im sure we'll do the same again.

 

We'll see. We'd be rejecting offers now anyway, whether we intend on keeping him or not. The time to get smug about rejected offers is 1st Feb, cos then we'll know that we weren't just holding out for a bigger offer on the last day of the window.

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Magpies reject £23m Carroll bid

Tottenham see renewed approach rejected as 'paltry'

 

By Rob Parrish - Follow me on Twitter @skysportsrobp Last updated: 29th January 2011

 

 

Carroll: Spurs interest

 

 

Newcastle have rejected a new £23million bid from Tottenham for striker Andy Carroll, Sky Sports News understands.

 

The England international has enjoyed an impressive debut season in the Premier League, bagging 11 Premier League goals before being sidelined by a thigh injury.

 

Carroll's displays in leading the line for the Magpies has attracted interest from a number of rival top-flight teams, with Harry Redknapp keen to bring the powerful forward to White Hart Lane.

 

The North East club are determined to retain the services of their star man and have rebuffed all offers for his services, with Spurs' latest offer drawing a terse response.

 

Not for sale

 

A high-ranking Newcastle official told Sky Sports News: "The club would like to make it clear for the very last time that Carroll is simply not for sale."

 

The source went on to describe the bid from Tottenham as 'paltry in the current climate'.

 

Magpies boss Alan Pardew has always stressed his determination to keep hold of his key players during January as he looks to establish the club back in the top flight.

 

And with the transfer window due to close at 11pm on Monday, it remains to be seen if Spurs will return with an improved offer.

 

 

There ye go

There ye are. They didn't even have to use the word paltry though, don't like that word as it makes it sound they have a figure in mind which they consider not to be paltry.

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The one thing I'll say is if the FCB was bold enough to lift this pathetic media blackout and actually say himself what is going on, maybe we wouldn't all be calling eachother mongs and what have ye. Pardew, and I'll give him respect for it has come out and said he won't be leaving but that means nothing to the reality of the situation.

 

This is how I'd simplify the situation;

 

Carroll's class, Spurs have plenty money to spend and are in a better and more willing state to offer players what they want i.e lowie and high standard football. This is at the moment btw, I know they've normally had their end of season party by now but they do have a very very good squad. I don't particularly like Spurs but I like how they've grown as a club on and off the pitch in recent years. Players see this aswell, I'd assume. We're a massive club, amazing fans, the works but we aren't in a position to challenge the top4, which I personally think Spurs can. Sad, but it's true at the moment.

 

What helps us in comparison to say Bent leaving them bamps is that he's got the club in his heart and seems a down to earth lad who knows he's at a club he dreamed of playing for. I doubt it'd be a massive lure to want to play for spurs which would drive him to leave, and more the will to achieve. He will be Englands long term number9 and in this day and age these types of player will always generate massive interest worldwide.

 

Maybe he will stay, maybe he'll leave but I'd guarantee if it's not spurs coming in now, it'll be a bigger club in the summer or next summer .. This will test Ashleys resolve and give an indication of our future if it's shown we accept or reject said 'bid'.

Good post in some respects but the bit in bold, if FMA was looking at it from a business perspective and he's the country's number 9 for years, surely it would be better to wait 3 or 4 years to cash in. £25m isn't that much in modern football, when you look at Kaka who's been finished 3 years went for £57m.

That's what I mean though mate, it'll test the resolve of Ashley and I think he's the type who knows how to work a deal and take risks but when that money's dangled in front of his dish he mightn't want to risk it never coming again.

 

Surely it would be better to wait I agree, everyone would agree, but I just don't trust him and don't believe what people are saying about he wouldn't do it because of the potential 'backlash from the fans' cos we aal naa he couldn't give a monkeys what we think. This rumour'll run forever tbh, cos he's so good and we can't trust the owner given his previous.

 

Great for us fans, eh!

 

I'll say it again though, this media blackout's fucking ridiculous for the transparancy of what their plans are etc. Whilst we just sit and pray.

 

Thing is though Mac, most posters on here have been shouting for the last 2 years for them to shut the fuck up as they kept dropping major clangers. They did.

 

Whether you believe them or not, I think they have previously stated the plans and havent really veered off them.

 

This year is about survival which will dramatically improve the clubs finances

We are going to steadily build the team by buying / developing young talent that can grow with the club.

Trophy signings on silly money are a thing of the past.

Our best players wont be sold.

Andy Carroll wont be sold.

 

Im not sure what else you would like to hear.

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They've made enquiries and we've told them no. Im sure we'll do the same again.

 

We'll see. We'd be rejecting offers now anyway, whether we intend on keeping him or not. The time to get smug about rejected offers is 1st Feb, cos then we'll know that we weren't just holding out for a bigger offer on the last day of the window.

 

Is that the same time the humble pie gets eaten......I doubt it.

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Aaaaaaah . . . . it all falls into place now. I honestly didnt have a clue what you were on about :lol: Not that that's petty at all. For all Stevie and me aren't best mates I'd rather spend an eternity in his company than have to spend more than 5 minutes in your company you sad little man.

 

 

The brown nosing continues, he doesn't like you, man :huh:

 

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They've made enquiries and we've told them no. Im sure we'll do the same again.

 

We'll see. We'd be rejecting offers now anyway, whether we intend on keeping him or not. The time to get smug about rejected offers is 1st Feb, cos then we'll know that we weren't just holding out for a bigger offer on the last day of the window.

 

 

So the Fat Man can't win at all just yet then, basically. Even if he rejects he's just holding out for more money.

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They've made enquiries and we've told them no. Im sure we'll do the same again.

 

We'll see. We'd be rejecting offers now anyway, whether we intend on keeping him or not. The time to get smug about rejected offers is 1st Feb, cos then we'll know that we weren't just holding out for a bigger offer on the last day of the window.

 

 

So the Fat Man can't win at all just yet then, basically. Even if he rejects he's just holding out for more money.

 

No, if he accepts one on the last day, he was holding out for more money. Get it?

 

I think you've overdosed on the arsehole pills btw. Your patter in this thread has been fucking lifting.

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Magpies reject £23m Carroll bid

Tottenham see renewed approach rejected as 'paltry'

 

By Rob Parrish - Follow me on Twitter @skysportsrobp Last updated: 29th January 2011

 

 

Carroll: Spurs interest

 

 

Newcastle have rejected a new £23million bid from Tottenham for striker Andy Carroll, Sky Sports News understands.

 

The England international has enjoyed an impressive debut season in the Premier League, bagging 11 Premier League goals before being sidelined by a thigh injury.

 

Carroll's displays in leading the line for the Magpies has attracted interest from a number of rival top-flight teams, with Harry Redknapp keen to bring the powerful forward to White Hart Lane.

 

The North East club are determined to retain the services of their star man and have rebuffed all offers for his services, with Spurs' latest offer drawing a terse response.

 

Not for sale

 

A high-ranking Newcastle official told Sky Sports News: "The club would like to make it clear for the very last time that Carroll is simply not for sale."

 

The source went on to describe the bid from Tottenham as 'paltry in the current climate'.

 

Magpies boss Alan Pardew has always stressed his determination to keep hold of his key players during January as he looks to establish the club back in the top flight.

 

And with the transfer window due to close at 11pm on Monday, it remains to be seen if Spurs will return with an improved offer.

 

 

There ye go

There ye are. They didn't even have to use the word paltry though, don't like that word as it makes it sound they have a figure in mind which they consider not to be paltry.

 

I was thinking that as well. I imagine their valuation has another £5 million on it.

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They've made enquiries and we've told them no. Im sure we'll do the same again.

 

We'll see. We'd be rejecting offers now anyway, whether we intend on keeping him or not. The time to get smug about rejected offers is 1st Feb, cos then we'll know that we weren't just holding out for a bigger offer on the last day of the window.

 

Is that the same time the humble pie gets eaten......I doubt it.

 

 

Nah, because then he'll just be holding out giving himself an extra 6 months to tout Carroll about a bit.

 

Relegation summer aside, we've never sold an important player that didn't want to leave. We've never even accepted a bid for an important player and left it up to them. Given and Insomnia engineered their own moves. If Carroll does that then fuck him, but I'm confident he won't, and I'm even more confident that we won't be trying to encourage him to move.

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They've made enquiries and we've told them no. Im sure we'll do the same again.

 

We'll see. We'd be rejecting offers now anyway, whether we intend on keeping him or not. The time to get smug about rejected offers is 1st Feb, cos then we'll know that we weren't just holding out for a bigger offer on the last day of the window.

 

Is that the same time the humble pie gets eaten......I doubt it.

 

Humble pie about what? Nobody wants him sold, but people are rightly concerned. Why do you have to try and lord it over people and insist they eat humble pie?

 

When I say that the time to be smug is on Feb 1, that's not strictly true. What I should say is that while the rest of us choose to be relieved that we kept our best player, knowing what you're like, you won't be able to stop crowing about how you predicted it all and acting the smug prick. And a better time for THAT would be Feb 1st. Although tbh there's never a good time for that sort of shit.

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Since when did anything anyone says have to be run past you like?

 

 

Since you started taking cocks up the arse from well endowed male patients.

 

Thought as much.

 

I work in a high secure criminal psychiatric hospital btw. Not much bumming these days

 

Must be awash with exotic drugs. :lol:

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They've made enquiries and we've told them no. Im sure we'll do the same again.

 

We'll see. We'd be rejecting offers now anyway, whether we intend on keeping him or not. The time to get smug about rejected offers is 1st Feb, cos then we'll know that we weren't just holding out for a bigger offer on the last day of the window.

 

Is that the same time the humble pie gets eaten......I doubt it.

 

Humble pie about what? Nobody wants him sold, but people are rightly concerned. Why do you have to try and lord it over people and insist they eat humble pie?

 

When I say that the time to be smug is on Feb 1, that's not strictly true. What I should say is that while the rest of us choose to be relieved that we kept our best player, knowing what you're like, you won't be able to stop crowing about how you predicted it all and acting the smug prick. And a better time for THAT would be Feb 1st. Although tbh there's never a good time for that sort of shit.

 

 

So Im smug for being pleased we've YET AGAIN, turned down an offer, but others in this thread who claim the deals being done all along shouldnt eat humble pie on 1st Feb..

 

What utter fucking TOSH.

 

ASM is right, come 1st Feb, the usual nay sayers will be spouting about how the clubs just waiting til the summer to get more money.....and so it goes on.

 

TIT

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They've made enquiries and we've told them no. Im sure we'll do the same again.

 

We'll see. We'd be rejecting offers now anyway, whether we intend on keeping him or not. The time to get smug about rejected offers is 1st Feb, cos then we'll know that we weren't just holding out for a bigger offer on the last day of the window.

 

 

So the Fat Man can't win at all just yet then, basically. Even if he rejects he's just holding out for more money.

 

No, if he accepts one on the last day, he was holding out for more money. Get it?

 

I think you've overdosed on the arsehole pills btw. Your patter in this thread has been fucking lifting.

 

Oh sorry, let's all turn into you and try and make every post a joke. Of course I 'get it' and I wasn't even having a dig at your post specifically before you went into alphamale defence tell-a-joke mode and tried to 'batter' me, I just don't see the point in people crying like fuck on here about being a selling club when we haven't accepted anything yet, and are unlikely to. We're having a good season, on a decent unbeaten run and within touching distance of our preseason hopes/expectations. What's the fucking point in reams and reams of posts slagging the club and it's ambitions off. We came into the season to stay up, we will. It's like whatever the club do there'll always something to slag off and whine about, all because Mike Ashley made the mistake of appointing a director of football a few years ago, the nasty bastard.

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IMO his current value is about 35m and his future value if he continues developing and playing for Eng would be £50m, would be utter madness to accept 25m now. UTTER MADNESS MIKE...MIKE!! MIIIIIKEEEE!!! :lol:

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They've made enquiries and we've told them no. Im sure we'll do the same again.

 

We'll see. We'd be rejecting offers now anyway, whether we intend on keeping him or not. The time to get smug about rejected offers is 1st Feb, cos then we'll know that we weren't just holding out for a bigger offer on the last day of the window.

 

 

So the Fat Man can't win at all just yet then, basically. Even if he rejects he's just holding out for more money.

 

No, if he accepts one on the last day, he was holding out for more money. Get it?

 

I think you've overdosed on the arsehole pills btw. Your patter in this thread has been fucking lifting.

 

See me, i think people who reckon we'll sell him and make up claims about Levy and Ashley being mates are the ones with shit patter. ASM may act like a dick but he talks sense.

 

I said it 4 weeks ago, name your charity and i'll donate £100 on feb 1st if Carroll isnt playing for us.

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They've made enquiries and we've told them no. Im sure we'll do the same again.

 

We'll see. We'd be rejecting offers now anyway, whether we intend on keeping him or not. The time to get smug about rejected offers is 1st Feb, cos then we'll know that we weren't just holding out for a bigger offer on the last day of the window.

 

 

So the Fat Man can't win at all just yet then, basically. Even if he rejects he's just holding out for more money.

 

No, if he accepts one on the last day, he was holding out for more money. Get it?

 

I think you've overdosed on the arsehole pills btw. Your patter in this thread has been fucking lifting.

 

See me, i think people who reckon we'll sell him and make up claims about Levy and Ashley being mates are the ones with shit patter. ASM may act like a dick but he talks sense.

 

I said it 4 weeks ago, name your charity and i'll donate £100 on feb 1st if Carroll isnt playing for us.

 

 

I love you too :lol:

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