zico martin 90 Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 this really is pretty unbelievable, can the club appeal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Shackbleep's point about the FA sanctioning the 25 players then fining them for using 11 of them is class btw.Also the 11 picked were professional football players of Blackpool F.C surely they can use them when they want too. That was Holloway's point at the time. He's spot on as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10978 Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Bang out of order. As has been said, what's the point in naming a 25 man squad if anything but your first 11 is illegal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shackbleep 0 Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 this really is pretty unbelievable, can the club appeal? Â Aye they have 14 days. Not quite sure to what level this appeal goes to like. Â The FA fucked up by taking action against Wolves. It set a massively dangerous precedent which clearly they've decided they're unable to contradict. Hilarious thing about it all is if they hadn't themselves brought in the 25 squad member ruling, this wouldn't even be up for discussion! Â FWIW I think it was wrong to take action against Wolves as well though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonTheMag 4 Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 If I were Blackpool I'd take the FA to court proper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobbySol 7 Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Holloway is starting to piss me off a little. Milking it a bit and spurting the same shit in the media. Don't agree with the fine but with wolves getting it last year it was inevitable. Funny how they wait till the dust settles in terms of holloway stating he would offer his resignation, then fine them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest You FCB Get Out Of Our Club Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 I think the premier league have made 100% the right decision. With the fine given to Wolves last season after the Man United disgrace there was no way Holloway was going to get away with this. If you look at that team who started against Villa, looking on soccerbase, of the start 11, 7 haven't made one league start since the villa game. Kingston has played every game since but if Gilks was fit he (Kingston) wouldn't have. That wasn't an example of squad rotation, that was an example of Holloway admitting defeat and concentrating on another match. The fact they came close to getting a result is the reason he tried to gloss over it at full time. What I will say though is that this rule should apply to all, regardless of who you are, it's time the FA monitored this more closely. Listen Marko, I respect you, normally you post intelligent informed stuff in a serious but endearing way, I know kids who know you they all say you're a good lad, but on this occasion you're talking FUCKIN PISH!  Your argument starts regarding the Wolves situation last year, if Wolves were fined then so should Blackpool be, that's all ok, but Wolves shouldn't have been fined neither. The Premiership have fuck all right to dictate how a club utilises their resources over a season. Just where is the cut off line where, a club has made too many changes, or is alright because they've only made three or four. Does it gets to the stage where every game, every manager should have to explain why he's played particular players in each game? It's a load of pish. As a manager of a club you do what's right for your club, and I wouldn't care Blackpool had Villa all over by all accounts. It could get to the point in the future where managers lie about players being injured to give them a rest and keep them for games they perceive as more winnable. The whole ruling is completely and utterly clouded, and your argument once again to clarify is pish. Clubs should be able to do what they want. Man Utd for example have done it for 15 years when they've had big CL Semi's ahead, it's a shocking ruling, if I was Blackpool I'd go to the Court of Arbitration, and ask them if the FAPL actually have a legal right to uphold these sanctions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 99 Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Makes no sense to me at all. Are they saying those other players that are part of the squad shouldnt be used? Are they saying that it was the number of changes that what wrong? If so, do they have a guideline to how many changes can be made from game to game? Basically, they made up a rule on the spot but one no one knows the details of or when they may or may not cross the line? Â Senseless imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 PL say the rules broken are... Â B.13: "In all matters and transactions relating to the League each Club shall behave towards each other Club and the League with the utmost good faith." Â E.20: "each participating club shall field a full-strength team" Â The first is so broad as to encompass anything, and the second is so narrow as to justify fines against most clubs....particularly the top 4. Â Disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest You FCB Get Out Of Our Club Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 See before the UEFA Cup Final last year, I'm pretty sure Fulham fielded a reserve team, fuck all happened there. As I said Man Utd been doing it years before important European games, and what about Arsenal, mind that game we beat them 4-2, I think they had Ashley Cole making his debut, Grimandi and Wreh up front cos they had the UEFA Final on the weds against Galatasaray. It stinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 (edited) Man u have been bragging about it too. Â On Wayne Rooney, one of the best strikers in the world: Â "We are not going to subject him to the abuse he gets here," United boss Sir Alex Ferguson told Sky Sports. Â http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/e...rem/8983208.stm Edited January 28, 2011 by Happy Face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shackbleep 0 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 As has been pointed out to me by a colleague this morning. On the day we were relegated, Manchester United played at Hull City who themselves were in with a strong shout of going down. Previous game against Arsenal the line-up was:  Van Der Sar, O'Shea, Vidic, Evans, Evra, Ronaldo, Fletcher, Carrick, Giggs, Rooney, Tevez  Line up against Hull 8 days later was:  Kuszczak, Rafael, Neville, Brown, de Laet, Nani, Fletcher, Gibson, Welbeck, Martin, Macheda  The only person who started both games was Fletcher and that was only because he was ineligable for the forth-coming CL final after being sent off against Arsenal in the semi-final.  So they imposed 10 changes, had a vastly weakened team in a game that had a massive influence on who stayed in league. But they won so they got off. Stinks to high heaven!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEADMAN 0 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 honestly the fa are a joke they let man utd or arsenal do it put weakend teams out but not blackpool absolute joke they are i think the fa are jelous cause blackpool are doing so well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin 1 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 honestly the fa are a joke they let man utd or arsenal do it put weakend teams out but not blackpool absolute joke they are i think the fa are jelous cause blackpool are doing so well  Okay, WHY THE FUCK WOULD THE F.A BE JEALOUS YOU FUCKING MORON?!  How fucking thick can you get, sweet jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko 0 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 (edited) I think the premier league have made 100% the right decision. With the fine given to Wolves last season after the Man United disgrace there was no way Holloway was going to get away with this. If you look at that team who started against Villa, looking on soccerbase, of the start 11, 7 haven't made one league start since the villa game. Kingston has played every game since but if Gilks was fit he (Kingston) wouldn't have. That wasn't an example of squad rotation, that was an example of Holloway admitting defeat and concentrating on another match. The fact they came close to getting a result is the reason he tried to gloss over it at full time. What I will say though is that this rule should apply to all, regardless of who you are, it's time the FA monitored this more closely. Listen Marko, I respect you, normally you post intelligent informed stuff in a serious but endearing way, I know kids who know you they all say you're a good lad, but on this occasion you're talking FUCKIN PISH!  Your argument starts regarding the Wolves situation last year, if Wolves were fined then so should Blackpool be, that's all ok, but Wolves shouldn't have been fined neither. The Premiership have fuck all right to dictate how a club utilises their resources over a season. Just where is the cut off line where, a club has made too many changes, or is alright because they've only made three or four. Does it gets to the stage where every game, every manager should have to explain why he's played particular players in each game? It's a load of pish. As a manager of a club you do what's right for your club, and I wouldn't care Blackpool had Villa all over by all accounts. It could get to the point in the future where managers lie about players being injured to give them a rest and keep them for games they perceive as more winnable. The whole ruling is completely and utterly clouded, and your argument once again to clarify is pish. Clubs should be able to do what they want. Man Utd for example have done it for 15 years when they've had big CL Semi's ahead, it's a shocking ruling, if I was Blackpool I'd go to the Court of Arbitration, and ask them if the FAPL actually have a legal right to uphold these sanctions.  Then the rulings should be made to be as clear as possible which I'm sure you will agree with Stevie. You say managers will argue about players being injured, I'll accept that and it's another thing that will have to be taken into consideration. but surely if you remove a rule such as this we're going to start getting frequent situations where teams field weakened sides against teams they believe they have no chance of getting any points from on the basis of resting players and saving them from other games, something I don't agree with.  When I go to watch us I want us to put out our strongest possible 11 for every single game injury permitting, if 1 or 2 players are tired and are rested then I can just about accept that, but as I said in my original post, Blackpool made 11 changes that night, and 7 of that 11 haven't made one league start since! I can understand the argument of the 25 man squad rule, but it still doesn't take away the fact that they weren't Blackpool's starting 11 hence the limited game time all have had since baring the goalkeeper.  Think of the fans who pay good money to see their team only to find out that they're team are fielding a load of fringe and reserve players. I know somebody who spent close to £200 taking his family to the Wolves game last year only to find out McCarthy's team selection, they were extremely fucked off. As would I be if I found out we played a load of fringe/reserve players in a league game. Regardless of the 25 man squad rule. Edited January 28, 2011 by Marko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEADMAN 0 Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 i reckon theres some corruption in the fa just like fifa they hire corruption croaneys that dont know shit about football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonTheMag 4 Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 croaney, that near crawley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEADMAN 0 Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 no croaney as in a faggot person Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonTheMag 4 Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 no croaney as in a faggot person  oh, right, faggot person. cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEADMAN 0 Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 does that make better sense now lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10978 Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Not really, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEADMAN 0 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 ok forget it haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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