SloopJohn 0 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 I hardly, if ever, look at the Newcastle United official website but I've just been to see who Shane Ferguson is, and on the reserve team roster he is listed as Left-Back. He plays left back or left wing. This is him running in a straight line from the half way line and whipping a cross into the penalty area for Ranger to score. Why our Argentinian international finds it so hard is a mystery. can see me celebrating in last seasons away shirt right in the top left hand corner of the crowd shot. not that bald fuck also wearing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10965 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Still not answering Jonny's pretty reasonable points there CT You genuinely don't have your own informed opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 I've asked you several times how much you've seen of him to justify a start. Not what others have said about him, as we all agree he was good against Chelsea. How many times have you seen him play, to know he's ready for the Premiership. More questions and no substance. I told you on the first page Id seen enough of him and enough of Jonas to think he should be given a chance. You tell me why we should stick with a man who's clearly lost his way and not give this lad a chance. You still haven't mentioned how much you've seen of him though. It's quite a straight forward question really. I'm not saying stick with Jonas btw as he's been dreadful the past two months, all I asked was how much you've personally seen of Ferguson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4827 Posted December 31, 2010 Author Share Posted December 31, 2010 I hardly, if ever, look at the Newcastle United official website but I've just been to see who Shane Ferguson is, and on the reserve team roster he is listed as Left-Back. He plays left back or left wing. This is him running in a straight line from the half way line and whipping a cross into the penalty area for Ranger to score. Why our Argentinian international finds it so hard is a mystery. can see me celebrating in last seasons away shirt right in the top left hand corner of the crowd shot. not that bald fuck also wearing it. At least the bald cunt looks like he's celebrating, you look like your doing some little shuffle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4827 Posted December 31, 2010 Author Share Posted December 31, 2010 Still not answering Jonny's pretty reasonable points there CT You genuinely don't have your own informed opinion. Definitely not, hence the thread with my opinion started by me. Nice to note that you agree with me as well and think we should be bringing the lad on, even if its as a sub. Your funny Now why dont you run along and start a footballing thread with your informed opinion instead of muppets with human eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4827 Posted December 31, 2010 Author Share Posted December 31, 2010 I've asked you several times how much you've seen of him to justify a start. Not what others have said about him, as we all agree he was good against Chelsea. How many times have you seen him play, to know he's ready for the Premiership. More questions and no substance. I told you on the first page Id seen enough of him and enough of Jonas to think he should be given a chance. You tell me why we should stick with a man who's clearly lost his way and not give this lad a chance. You still haven't mentioned how much you've seen of him though. It's quite a straight forward question really. I'm not saying stick with Jonas btw as he's been dreadful the past two months, all I asked was how much you've personally seen of Ferguson. Thats no substance and avoidance. As I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Besty 4 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 You're like fucking Leazes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TicTacWoe 0 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 (edited) I think CT has a point to some extent, of course no-one knows for sure how good someone like Ferguson (or more importantly Kadar who should have played ahead of Perch) is until they get a proper chance to prove themselves. Perch has had a few chances now and failed spectacularly so next time we need someone to fill in at LB it should be Kadar or Ferguson. As for Jonas, he could definitely do with dropping even if it does just end up confirming that Ferguson or whoever replaces him isn't good enough either, his place in the starting 11 is far too assured for my liking. Edited December 31, 2010 by TicTacWoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4827 Posted December 31, 2010 Author Share Posted December 31, 2010 You're like fucking Leazes. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4827 Posted December 31, 2010 Author Share Posted December 31, 2010 I think CT has a point to some extent, of course no-one knows for sure how good someone like Ferguson (or more importantly Kadar who should have played ahead of Perch) is until they get a proper chance to prove themselves. Perch has had a few chances now and failed spectacularly so next time we need someone to fill in at LB it should be Kadar or Ferguson. As for Jonas, he could definitely do with dropping even if it does just end up confirming that Ferguson or whoever replaces him isn't good enough either, his place in the starting 11 is far too assured for my liking. I always do , but unfortunately there's more and more tits around who want to try and be the clever guy rather than discussing football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31203 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Given that CT appears to go to very few first team games (despite living in the area), I'll take his opinion on reserve team players with a pinch of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4827 Posted December 31, 2010 Author Share Posted December 31, 2010 Given that CT appears to go to very few first team games (despite living in the area), I'll take his opinion on reserve team players with a pinch of salt. And Beardsleys and Hughtons and Henry Winters etc etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31203 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 CT, why is it that you don't bother actually going to games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac-Toon 1 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Given that CT appears to go to very few first team games (despite living in the area), I'll take his opinion on reserve team players with a pinch of salt. And Beardsleys and Hughtons and Henry Winters etc etc etc Aye Hughton. So, surely he watched enough of Ferguson to know he wasn't ready for this level hence his lack of game time and having others playing ahead of him week in week out. In fairness to Pardew he's going to want to make a good start to the job and will rightly, imo, utilise his experienced squad to get him those results. In my job if I had 2 lads doing the same one, one a brand new'un and another with years of experience, I'd use the experienced lad to get the big job done. Often regardless of their work ethic etc because I know the skills are there, it's just finding a way to get the best from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest You FCB Get Out Of Our Club Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Given that CT appears to go to very few first team games (despite living in the area), I'll take his opinion on reserve team players with a pinch of salt. And Beardsleys and Hughtons and Henry Winters etc etc etc Aye Hughton. So, surely he watched enough of Ferguson to know he wasn't ready for this level hence his lack of game time and having others playing ahead of him week in week out. In fairness to Pardew he's going to want to make a good start to the job and will rightly, imo, utilise his experienced squad to get him those results. In my job if I had 2 lads doing the same one, one a brand new'un and another with years of experience, I'd use the experienced lad to get the big job done. Often regardless of their work ethic etc because I know the skills are there, it's just finding a way to get the best from him. As much as I respect Hughton, his assertion Lua Lua wasn't read was one of his mistakes. He was by a million miles the best player in League One till he broke his leg. Look at Brighton's shit form since that happened, and the way Jonas is playing he could've been a good option especially with Jonas and Routledge playing one good game in five. Regarding Ferguson, seen him playing full back at reserves a lot but he's equally adept further up the park, he's a good prospect. Looked excellent against Aldershot Stanley in the League Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac-Toon 1 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Given that CT appears to go to very few first team games (despite living in the area), I'll take his opinion on reserve team players with a pinch of salt. And Beardsleys and Hughtons and Henry Winters etc etc etc Aye Hughton. So, surely he watched enough of Ferguson to know he wasn't ready for this level hence his lack of game time and having others playing ahead of him week in week out. In fairness to Pardew he's going to want to make a good start to the job and will rightly, imo, utilise his experienced squad to get him those results. In my job if I had 2 lads doing the same one, one a brand new'un and another with years of experience, I'd use the experienced lad to get the big job done. Often regardless of their work ethic etc because I know the skills are there, it's just finding a way to get the best from him. As much as I respect Hughton, his assertion Lua Lua wasn't read was one of his mistakes. He was by a million miles the best player in League One till he broke his leg. Look at Brighton's shit form since that happened, and the way Jonas is playing he could've been a good option especially with Jonas and Routledge playing one good game in five. Regarding Ferguson, seen him playing full back at reserves a lot but he's equally adept further up the park, he's a good prospect. Looked excellent against Aldershot Stanley in the League Cup. I've not seen nearly enough of him to have much of an opinion on him. What I was saying though was in response to CT saying 'Beardsley, Hughton and Winter' so I'd have thought Hughon would've had a good idea where he's at. You're reet about LuaLua, looked class at Brighton but then Shola looked class in the championship. I hope and like to see the young'uns coming through I just understand Pardew if he sticks with experience with him being so new into the job. You gan down on sunday mate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest You FCB Get Out Of Our Club Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Given that CT appears to go to very few first team games (despite living in the area), I'll take his opinion on reserve team players with a pinch of salt. And Beardsleys and Hughtons and Henry Winters etc etc etc Aye Hughton. So, surely he watched enough of Ferguson to know he wasn't ready for this level hence his lack of game time and having others playing ahead of him week in week out. In fairness to Pardew he's going to want to make a good start to the job and will rightly, imo, utilise his experienced squad to get him those results. In my job if I had 2 lads doing the same one, one a brand new'un and another with years of experience, I'd use the experienced lad to get the big job done. Often regardless of their work ethic etc because I know the skills are there, it's just finding a way to get the best from him. As much as I respect Hughton, his assertion Lua Lua wasn't read was one of his mistakes. He was by a million miles the best player in League One till he broke his leg. Look at Brighton's shit form since that happened, and the way Jonas is playing he could've been a good option especially with Jonas and Routledge playing one good game in five. Regarding Ferguson, seen him playing full back at reserves a lot but he's equally adept further up the park, he's a good prospect. Looked excellent against Aldershot Stanley in the League Cup. I've not seen nearly enough of him to have much of an opinion on him. What I was saying though was in response to CT saying 'Beardsley, Hughton and Winter' so I'd have thought Hughon would've had a good idea where he's at. You're reet about LuaLua, looked class at Brighton but then Shola looked class in the championship. I hope and like to see the young'uns coming through I just understand Pardew if he sticks with experience with him being so new into the job. You gan down on sunday mate? Nar after Spurs I won't be going to far away, away games this season. Looking good for a Sunderland ticket though How you only been to 24 away games like? Late toon support developer? I reckon I'd been to 24 by the age of 15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac-Toon 1 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Given that CT appears to go to very few first team games (despite living in the area), I'll take his opinion on reserve team players with a pinch of salt. And Beardsleys and Hughtons and Henry Winters etc etc etc Aye Hughton. So, surely he watched enough of Ferguson to know he wasn't ready for this level hence his lack of game time and having others playing ahead of him week in week out. In fairness to Pardew he's going to want to make a good start to the job and will rightly, imo, utilise his experienced squad to get him those results. In my job if I had 2 lads doing the same one, one a brand new'un and another with years of experience, I'd use the experienced lad to get the big job done. Often regardless of their work ethic etc because I know the skills are there, it's just finding a way to get the best from him. As much as I respect Hughton, his assertion Lua Lua wasn't read was one of his mistakes. He was by a million miles the best player in League One till he broke his leg. Look at Brighton's shit form since that happened, and the way Jonas is playing he could've been a good option especially with Jonas and Routledge playing one good game in five. Regarding Ferguson, seen him playing full back at reserves a lot but he's equally adept further up the park, he's a good prospect. Looked excellent against Aldershot Stanley in the League Cup. I've not seen nearly enough of him to have much of an opinion on him. What I was saying though was in response to CT saying 'Beardsley, Hughton and Winter' so I'd have thought Hughon would've had a good idea where he's at. You're reet about LuaLua, looked class at Brighton but then Shola looked class in the championship. I hope and like to see the young'uns coming through I just understand Pardew if he sticks with experience with him being so new into the job. You gan down on sunday mate? Nar after Spurs I won't be going to far away, away games this season. Looking good for a Sunderland ticket though How you only been to 24 away games like? Late toon support developer? I reckon I'd been to 24 by the age of 15. Divn't kna' really just the way it worked out. I used to gan occasionally then lived in Devon for 3 years so that stopped any travelling aboot. I try to gan to about 2 or 3 a year if I can. Always had a season ticket though. Away games just re-affirm to me how shite all the other stadia are in the country compared to SJP, OT and the emirates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest You FCB Get Out Of Our Club Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Given that CT appears to go to very few first team games (despite living in the area), I'll take his opinion on reserve team players with a pinch of salt. And Beardsleys and Hughtons and Henry Winters etc etc etc Aye Hughton. So, surely he watched enough of Ferguson to know he wasn't ready for this level hence his lack of game time and having others playing ahead of him week in week out. In fairness to Pardew he's going to want to make a good start to the job and will rightly, imo, utilise his experienced squad to get him those results. In my job if I had 2 lads doing the same one, one a brand new'un and another with years of experience, I'd use the experienced lad to get the big job done. Often regardless of their work ethic etc because I know the skills are there, it's just finding a way to get the best from him. As much as I respect Hughton, his assertion Lua Lua wasn't read was one of his mistakes. He was by a million miles the best player in League One till he broke his leg. Look at Brighton's shit form since that happened, and the way Jonas is playing he could've been a good option especially with Jonas and Routledge playing one good game in five. Regarding Ferguson, seen him playing full back at reserves a lot but he's equally adept further up the park, he's a good prospect. Looked excellent against Aldershot Stanley in the League Cup. I've not seen nearly enough of him to have much of an opinion on him. What I was saying though was in response to CT saying 'Beardsley, Hughton and Winter' so I'd have thought Hughon would've had a good idea where he's at. You're reet about LuaLua, looked class at Brighton but then Shola looked class in the championship. I hope and like to see the young'uns coming through I just understand Pardew if he sticks with experience with him being so new into the job. You gan down on sunday mate? Nar after Spurs I won't be going to far away, away games this season. Looking good for a Sunderland ticket though How you only been to 24 away games like? Late toon support developer? I reckon I'd been to 24 by the age of 15. Divn't kna' really just the way it worked out. I used to gan occasionally then lived in Devon for 3 years so that stopped any travelling aboot. I try to gan to about 2 or 3 a year if I can. Always had a season ticket though. Away games just re-affirm to me how shite all the other stadia are in the country compared to SJP, OT and the emirates. OT is wank I reckon, plastic, soulless, characterless, the kiosks are shite, never liked it, although I've been 5 times and never seen us lose there so that's something. Baseball Ground Derby is my favourite ground. Nen of the club stadiums in England are a patch on Ibrox imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4827 Posted December 31, 2010 Author Share Posted December 31, 2010 CT, why is it that you don't bother actually going to games? Do you ever pay attention. I've discussed many times on here how I gave up my season ticket when KK left. Unlike the likes of Alex who had paid in full, I was on installments and able to get out. I now go when it's affordable / suits me My last game was boxing day v man city. What about you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest You FCB Get Out Of Our Club Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Boldon aggro, Boldon aggro hello hello! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4827 Posted December 31, 2010 Author Share Posted December 31, 2010 Given that CT appears to go to very few first team games (despite living in the area), I'll take his opinion on reserve team players with a pinch of salt. And Beardsleys and Hughtons and Henry Winters etc etc etc Aye Hughton. So, surely he watched enough of Ferguson to know he wasn't ready for this level hence his lack of game time and having others playing ahead of him week in week out. In fairness to Pardew he's going to want to make a good start to the job and will rightly, imo, utilise his experienced squad to get him those results. In my job if I had 2 lads doing the same one, one a brand new'un and another with years of experience, I'd use the experienced lad to get the big job done. Often regardless of their work ethic etc because I know the skills are there, it's just finding a way to get the best from him. The whole point though is if your lad with so called years of experience kept fucking the job up, at some point you would give the young'un, who you know is capable, a chance. Everyone gets excited when we see these younguns doing well at other clubs. It's having a manager with balls to drop a player and try something different that makes the difference between winners and losers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6783 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 CT. Have you got the quotes from Beardo, Winter etc ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4827 Posted December 31, 2010 Author Share Posted December 31, 2010 CT. Have you got the quotes from Beardo, Winter etc ? Read the thread properly and you'd have already seen them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6783 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 CT. Have you got the quotes from Beardo, Winter etc ? Read the thread properly and you'd have already seen them. Oh right, I was expecting the quotes to say he was ready for the PL - as you intimated. They basically just say he was having a good game and is a good prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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