Isegrim 9898 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Look at the league table 65012[/snapback] We're ahead of Blackburn - Bellamy's making all the difference there like! And Luque - crap?? S'pose Ronaldinho would be shite as well? 65015[/snapback] no. Ronaldhino is the top player in the world. Don't understand how you can compare Luque with Ronaldhino, there is no comparison ..... in my opinion Luque is as likely to be as successful as Craig Bellamy was, as Ameobi is to captain England. There is no point in making these changes to the detriment of performance on the pitch, it's money down the drain, big money too, but shows the managers judgement to be incompetent along with his managerial skills, but we all know that, and even that is indefensible to those of you who have backed him. Fact is, you are clinging onto the hope that he will come good, under Bobby Robson, when Bellamy [and Robert] were here you looked at the league table, but you've now been completely taken in and spat out by Souness' propaganda. And you know it. 65021[/snapback] Another "you must worship Souness if you knock Bellamy" thread from you there I see Leazes? You're entitled to your opinion about Luque, personally I haven't seen him play but I've talked to a few people who have and they all suggest he's an awesome talent. And don't give me that shite about if he was that good, Real Madrid would have been in for him - I don't remember too many wanting Henry when Wenger snapped him up! 65038[/snapback] They were linked with him... http://es.sports.yahoo.com/050719/9/6s6v.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6700 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Look at the league table 65012[/snapback] We're ahead of Blackburn - Bellamy's making all the difference there like! And Luque - crap?? S'pose Ronaldinho would be shite as well? 65015[/snapback] no. Ronaldhino is the top player in the world. Don't understand how you can compare Luque with Ronaldhino, there is no comparison ..... in my opinion Luque is as likely to be as successful as Craig Bellamy was, as Ameobi is to captain England. There is no point in making these changes to the detriment of performance on the pitch, it's money down the drain, big money too, but shows the managers judgement to be incompetent along with his managerial skills, but we all know that, and even that is indefensible to those of you who have backed him. Fact is, you are clinging onto the hope that he will come good, under Bobby Robson, when Bellamy [and Robert] were here you looked at the league table, but you've now been completely taken in and spat out by Souness' propaganda. And you know it. 65021[/snapback] Another "you must worship Souness if you knock Bellamy" thread from you there I see Leazes? You're entitled to your opinion about Luque, personally I haven't seen him play but I've talked to a few people who have and they all suggest he's an awesome talent. And don't give me that shite about if he was that good, Real Madrid would have been in for him - I don't remember too many wanting Henry when Wenger snapped him up! 65038[/snapback] They were linked with him... http://es.sports.yahoo.com/050719/9/6s6v.html 65046[/snapback] He's shite though remember, not a patch on Bellamy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChocChip 0 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 LM - I think you're going mental Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 sold within 2 years for half of what we paid - max 65014[/snapback] Fuck me, I hope you're wrong about that one. I'm reserving judgement, he came with a good pedigree and I trust the opinions of a few who say he'll be massive for us. Barca and Real both had a look at him last summer, supposedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Look at the league table 65012[/snapback] We're ahead of Blackburn - Bellamy's making all the difference there like! And Luque - crap?? S'pose Ronaldinho would be shite as well? 65015[/snapback] no. Ronaldhino is the top player in the world. Don't understand how you can compare Luque with Ronaldhino, there is no comparison ..... in my opinion Luque is as likely to be as successful as Craig Bellamy was, as Ameobi is to captain England. There is no point in making these changes to the detriment of performance on the pitch, it's money down the drain, big money too, but shows the managers judgement to be incompetent along with his managerial skills, but we all know that, and even that is indefensible to those of you who have backed him. Fact is, you are clinging onto the hope that he will come good, under Bobby Robson, when Bellamy [and Robert] were here you looked at the league table, but you've now been completely taken in and spat out by Souness' propaganda. And you know it. 65021[/snapback] Another "you must worship Souness if you knock Bellamy" thread from you there I see Leazes? I'll say it again. If you back the manager, you are by defnition backing his changes. If not, why are you backing him. In Bellamys case, he is the single biggest player to have left the club, with the most influence on the team, so like it or not, it is central to how Souness has been judged, and his teams results and performances. You're entitled to your opinion about Luque, personally I haven't seen him play but I've talked to a few people who have and they all suggest he's an awesome talent. And don't give me that shite about if he was that good, Real Madrid would have been in for him - I don't remember too many wanting Henry when Wenger snapped him up! We will see. As for Henry, there is a vast difference between bringing in a young player making his way up in the game, with a manager from the same country as well, to a player approaching his late 20's and needing to adapt a game and lifestyle he has adopted for years. I am surprised some of you are taking this attitude, I thought you would have learned your lesson ref Kluivert. For the last time, I've never backed Souness! All I have said is, as Alex pointed out in another thread, that he needed time to prove himself. He has proved himself and he's shit and needs replacing. Despite my last comment though, I'm still of the opinion that the club were right to get rid of Bellamy (and Robert for that matter). 65038[/snapback] see above. Souness had proved himself at all his other clubs. He was shite. A bully, and a confrontational arsehole who put his own ego before the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Did Barca track Bellamy? 65040[/snapback] No, but Everton did. 65041[/snapback] I rest my case! 65042[/snapback] We will see if Luque performs as well for Newcastle as Bellamy did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6700 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 If you back the manager, you are by defnition backing his changes. If not, why are you backing him. 65235[/snapback] Seriously, when have I ever backed Souness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6700 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Did Barca track Bellamy? 65040[/snapback] No, but Everton did. 65041[/snapback] I rest my case! 65042[/snapback] We will see if Luque performs as well for Newcastle as Bellamy did 65237[/snapback] tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChocChip 0 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Did Barca track Bellamy? 65040[/snapback] No, but Everton did. 65041[/snapback] I rest my case! 65042[/snapback] We will see if Luque performs as well for Newcastle as Bellamy did 65237[/snapback] I think Bellamy was a part of a good team (under Robson), he wasn't (IMO) the single catalyst that made us CL material. If he was the kind of player that could singlehandedly turn a shower of shite into a top 4 outfit then Blackburn would already be on the fringes of it wouldn't they? Bellamy worked well with an in-form Robert (now past it), Solano (now past it), Dyer (when he was fit) and Shearer (when he could still move a little). Part of a good team, won't win you anything on his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 I think Bellamy was a part of a good team (under Robson), he wasn't (IMO) the single catalyst that made us CL material. If he was the kind of player that could singlehandedly turn a shower of shite into a top 4 outfit then Blackburn would already be on the fringes of it wouldn't they? Bellamy worked well with an in-form Robert (now past it), Solano (now past it), Dyer (when he was fit) and Shearer (when he could still move a little). Part of a good team, won't win you anything on his own. 65246[/snapback] Good post, agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6700 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 I think Bellamy was a part of a good team (under Robson), he wasn't (IMO) the single catalyst that made us CL material. If he was the kind of player that could singlehandedly turn a shower of shite into a top 4 outfit then Blackburn would already be on the fringes of it wouldn't they? Bellamy worked well with an in-form Robert (now past it), Solano (now past it), Dyer (when he was fit) and Shearer (when he could still move a little). Part of a good team, won't win you anything on his own. 65246[/snapback] Good post, agree with that. 65248[/snapback] Indeed which is the point I think many are trying to make but are just getting "shouted down" by Leazes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChocChip 0 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 LM is starting to rant like a man who can't get a word in edgeways at home and is inflicting his vitriol on the rest of us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Did Barca track Bellamy? 65040[/snapback] No, but Everton did. 65041[/snapback] I rest my case! 65042[/snapback] We will see if Luque performs as well for Newcastle as Bellamy did 65237[/snapback] That's a bit of a stepdown from "Luque - crap" tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6700 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Be interesting to see if we ever get a post from LM which doesn't mention one of Souness, Bellamy or Robert tbh.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Did Barca track Bellamy? 65040[/snapback] No, but Everton did. 65041[/snapback] I rest my case! 65042[/snapback] We will see if Luque performs as well for Newcastle as Bellamy did 65237[/snapback] That's a bit of a stepdown from "Luque - crap" tbh 65266[/snapback] No it's not, there's no point making these changes if they don't improve your team, and this one won't. And so far, all of Souness changes have left us worse off, on and off the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Ronaldhino is the top player in the world. 65021[/snapback] Aye, but these fancy-dans from hot countries don't like it up 'em or when the weather turns cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gejon 2 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 I am surprised some of you are taking this attitude, I thought you would have learned your lesson ref Kluivert. 65235[/snapback] Becuase Luque and Kluivert are similar how? both played in Spain so it means Luque has also lost his passion for football and will waste his talent? Comparing the 2 is like comparing Beardsley and Gazza! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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