LeazesMag 0 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Logic. His only other flaw aside from basic reading comprehension. ah. The logic and comprehension that says qualifying for europe more than any club bar 4 over a 15 year period is "embarrassing" Thank you for sharing your wisdom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Your judgement on football is idiotic. As shown by your misguided support for the spending of Souness, which is my point, and also casts doubt on why you supported the unsustainable spending, given your self-proclaimed excellence in what is your chosen profession ? Gemmill's idiotic for doing it. Shepherd was a visionary chairman for doing it. I fucking love you leazes. The Halls and Shepherd ran the club together kiddah. Shepherd could not have appointed anybody without the express knowledge and agreement of the major shareholders. I explained this to the manc mag only last week, but he didn't comprehend either, despite Sir John and Dogless clearly saying "we" when referring to major decisions made by the board of the club on many occasions including the sacking of Sir Bobby Robson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Manc-mag's basic comprehension skills are still blurred by the emotional fallout from not finishing in 5th place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Well, i was going to continue with trying to explore with UV in a bit more depth some of the outstanding questions regarding the financial history and current situation at the club but this is much more interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Manc-mag's basic comprehension skills are still blurred by the emotional fallout from not finishing in 5th place. Don't give me none of your first, second, third, fourth or sixth's. It's fifth or nowhere you fucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 (edited) Manc-mag's basic comprehension skills are still blurred by the emotional fallout from not finishing in 5th place. Don't give me none of your first, second, third, fourth or sixth's. It's fifth or nowhere you fucks. your tears of frustration due to those horrible mancs laughing at you must have really stung you as they trickled down your cheeks, much to your embarrassment. Edited December 16, 2010 by LeazesMag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Manc-mag's basic comprehension skills are still blurred by the emotional fallout from not finishing in 5th place. Don't give me none of your first, second, third, fourth or sixth's. It's fifth or nowhere you fucks. your tears of frustration due to those horrible mancs laughing at you must have really stung you as they trickled down your cheeks, much to your embarrassment. "Are you KSA's guardian angel too? You're obsessed with me aren't you? etc etc" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Well, i was going to continue with trying to explore with UV in a bit more depth some of the outstanding questions regarding the financial history and current situation at the club but this is much more interesting. 'As I wus sayin like, Ashley has propa fucked the club likeman' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Manc-mag's basic comprehension skills are still blurred by the emotional fallout from not finishing in 5th place. Don't give me none of your first, second, third, fourth or sixth's. It's fifth or nowhere you fucks. your tears of frustration due to those horrible mancs laughing at you must have really stung you as they trickled down your cheeks, much to your embarrassment. "Are you KSA's guardian angel too? You're obsessed with me aren't you? etc etc" in this instance, he's quoting my often used comments about regularly being the 5th most qualified club for europe and having the 5th highest average position over the 15 years the club was run by the Halls and Shepherd. I didn't think you would comprehend though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Manc-mag's basic comprehension skills are still blurred by the emotional fallout from not finishing in 5th place. Don't give me none of your first, second, third, fourth or sixth's. It's fifth or nowhere you fucks. your tears of frustration due to those horrible mancs laughing at you must have really stung you as they trickled down your cheeks, much to your embarrassment. "Are you KSA's guardian angel too? You're obsessed with me aren't you? etc etc" in this instance, he's quoting my often used comments about regularly being the 5th most qualified club for europe and having the 5th highest average position over the 15 years the club was run by the Halls and Shepherd. I didn't think you would comprehend though. Really? And to think I never got the reference. Jesus tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Where's all this going like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Where's all this going like? Carrying on until the New Year then peace hopefully descends, brother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4702 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Not sure how to copy a spreadsheet into here so just have to list them. Found this list of incomings James Perch Tiote Danny Simpson £750,000 Wayne Routledge Mike Williamson Leon Best Kevin Nolan £4,500,000 Ryan Taylor Jonas Gutierrez Danny Guthrie Sebastian Bassong Fabricio Colochini Xisco £5,700,000 Ben Tozer £1,000,000 Mark Viduka Free Joey Barton £5,800,000 David Rozenthal £2,900,000 Alan Smith £6,000,000 Enrique £6,300,000 Abdoulaye Faye And this list of outgoings Geremi David Edgar Michael Owen Free Shay Given £6,000,000 Charles Nzogbia £6,000,000 Peter Ramage Stephen Carr David Rozenthal £2,900,000 Abdooly Faye £2,250,000 James Milner £12,500,000 Scott Parker £7,000,000 Titus Bramble Free Antoine Sibierski Free Craig Moore Released Alan Obrien Kieron Dyer £6,000,000 Paul Huntingdon Nobby Solano The ones without a figure are shown as being undisclosed on the website I found so not sure how you add them in. Also I cant find a list of the transfers debts ashley paid off when he came in. It would be nice if someone knows how to knock this into a proper shape so we have a definitive list for future discussions. Also the geeks on the board will have to see if anyones missing off this list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 (edited) Not sure how to copy a spreadsheet into here so just have to list them. Found this list of incomings James Perch 1m Tiote 3.5 Danny Simpson £750,000 Wayne Routledge £1.1 Mike Williamson (Nearly out of contract at former) Say 1m Leon Best 1.5 Kevin Nolan £4,500,000 Ryan Taylor xchange Jonas Gutierrez Compensation 4.2 Ewok was right. Danny Guthrie 2.5 Sebastian Bassong 0.5m Fabricio Colochini 10.5 Xisco £5,700,000 Ben Tozer £1,000,000 Mark Viduka Free Joey Barton £5,800,000 David Rozenthal £2,900,000 Alan Smith £6,000,000 Enrique £6,300,000 Abdoulaye Faye And this list of outgoings Geremi free David Edgar 750,000 Michael Owen Free Shay Given £6,000,000 Charles Nzogbia £6,000,000 Peter Ramage free Stephen Carr let go David Rozenthal £2,900,000 Abdooly Faye £2,250,000 James Milner £12,500,000 Scott Parker £7,000,000 Titus Bramble Free Antoine Sibierski Free Craig Moore Released Alan Obrien end of contract Kieron Dyer £6,000,000 Paul Huntingdon let go Nobby Solano end of contract The ones without a figure are shown as being undisclosed on the website I found so not sure how you add them in. Also I cant find a list of the transfers debts ashley paid off when he came in. It would be nice if someone knows how to knock this into a proper shape so we have a definitive list for future discussions. Also the geeks on the board will have to see if anyones missing off this list. Edited December 16, 2010 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Further to this mornings remarks about money spent vs money received on players under Ashleys ownership, is there anywhere to find this info to nail it once and for all. It's nailed...it's in the accounts...he's £18m up on transfer dealings. Think this is turning into urban myth without the facts. I just want to see two lists. One with outgoing p[layers and fee, one with incoming players and fee. Thought this would have been readily available, especially for the anti ashley brigade, but Im struggling to source it. Smells a fish away. Those lists are all over. You can see our transfer history going back years on NUFC.com or on Soccerbase or a number of other places....I compiled this list following relegation... InBarton £6m Rozehnal £3m Smith £5m Enrique £6m Faye £2m Beye £2m Jonas £6m Guthrie £2.5m Colo £9m Bassong £2m Xisco £6m Nolan £4m R. Taylor £0 Lovenkrands £0 Total £53.5m Out Parker £7m Dyer £6m Solano? Luque? Rozehnal - £3m Emre - BBC suggested that was £8m We'll say £4m Faye - £2m Milner - £12m Given - £8m Zoggo - £6m Martins - £9m Bassong - £8m (?) Beye - £3m (?) Total £68m At least £14.5m up http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?...mp;#entry659979 The actual amount only comes out in the accounts though...that's the truth of it, anything reported on the internet is best guesses because we don't disclose fees anymore...until a year or 2 later as a combined total in the accounts....which gives the £18m profit figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Which I have to say was pretty fucking spot on once you put back in the £4m I left off of Emre's reported fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Further to this mornings remarks about money spent vs money received on players under Ashleys ownership, is there anywhere to find this info to nail it once and for all. It's nailed...it's in the accounts...he's £18m up on transfer dealings. Think this is turning into urban myth without the facts. I just want to see two lists. One with outgoing p[layers and fee, one with incoming players and fee. Thought this would have been readily available, especially for the anti ashley brigade, but Im struggling to source it. Smells a fish away. Those lists are all over. You can see our transfer history going back years on NUFC.com or on Soccerbase or a number of other places....I compiled this list following relegation... InBarton £6m Rozehnal £3m Smith £5m Enrique £6m Faye £2m Beye £2m Jonas £6m Guthrie £2.5m Colo £9m Bassong £2m Xisco £6m Nolan £4m R. Taylor £0 Lovenkrands £0 Total £53.5m Out Parker £7m Dyer £6m Solano? Luque? Rozehnal - £3m Emre - BBC suggested that was £8m We'll say £4m Faye - £2m Milner - £12m Given - £8m Zoggo - £6m Martins - £9m Bassong - £8m (?) Beye - £3m (?) Total £68m At least £14.5m up http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?...mp;#entry659979 The actual amount only comes out in the accounts though...that's the truth of it, anything reported on the internet is best guesses because we don't disclose fees anymore...until a year or 2 later as a combined total in the accounts....which gives the £18m profit figure. Bassong was 0.5 that's why there was a big hoo ha from the French club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4702 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Had a go best I can and I get In Abdoulaye Faye £2,000,000 Alan Smith £6,000,000 Ben Tozer £1,000,000 Danny Guthrie £2,500,000 Danny Simpson £750,000 David Rozenthal £2,900,000 Enrique £6,300,000 Fabricio Colochini £9,000,000 Habibe Baye £2,000,000 Joey Barton £5,800,000 Jonas Gutierrez £6,000,000 Kevin Nolan £4,500,000 Leon Best £1,000,000 Lovenkrands £0 Mike Williamson £2,000,000 Ryan Taylor £0 Sebastian Bassong £2,000,000 Tiote £3,500,000 Wayne Routledge £2,000,000 Xisco £5,700,000 Total £65 Mill Out Abdooly Faye £2,250,000 Bassong £8,000,000 Beye £2,500,000 Charles Nzogbia £6,000,000 David Edgar £300,000 David Rozenthal £2,900,000 Emre £4,000,000 James Milner £12,500,000 Kieron Dyer £6,000,000 Luque £0 Obafemi Martins £9,000,000 Scott Parker £7,000,000 Shay Given £8,000,000 Out £68.5 Mill When you add in the suggested Shepherd outstanding transfer fees taht he paid off, then it would appear he's made a loss on transfers. Also worth noting ive now officially lost the will to live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMoog 0 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Regardless of what anyone says there was more positives as a fan about supporting the team under the previous ownership, all I've had from Ashley is frustration and disappointment - one successful season in a league we should never have been part of in the first place only provided a slight distraction from where we should have been. There's too much water under the bridge now for Ashley to ever redeem himself, the bloke's a fat cunting twat and for me he always will be. Bring on the Qataris! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7278 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Where's Damien Duff on the outgoing lists? And Bassong didn't cost 2m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4702 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Where's Damien Duff on the outgoing lists? And Bassong didn't cost 2m. As I said, best I can be bothered with. You however seem the ideal person to take this baby on and make it your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Ashley should stop being such an economic girly-man tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 For the last time Bassong was 0.5m you mongs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gejon 2 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 For the last time Bassong was 0.5m you mongs. £250k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7278 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Where's Damien Duff on the outgoing lists? And Bassong didn't cost 2m. As I said, best I can be bothered with. You however seem the ideal person to take this baby on and make it your own. Have a sook.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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