Alan Pardew - Poltroon sacked by a forrin team

[Christmas Tree 4679]

He felt the Squad was good enough to get promoted. He was right.

 

He felt Hughton could oversee that promotion. He was right.

 

He has put rigerous financial controls in place. Which is so far certainly looking right.

 

He has appointed someone he thinks is btter than Hughton.

 

FYP. We've no idea why he appointed Pardoo, have we?

 

 

??? We dont but he obviously thinks he's better, hence the appointment?

[Ayatollah Hermione 13768]

It's obvious that it's not an appointment based on quality though, isn't it?

 

Not even sure why I'm starting.

[Christmas Tree 4679]

It's obvious that it's not an appointment based on quality though, isn't it?

 

Not even sure why I'm starting.

 

Definitely not.

 

Replacing Hughton for a more experienced guy makes sense, but Pardew!

 

The only connection seems tha casino one .

 

Bizzare

[Kevin 1]

Howay man

[manc-mag 1]

Blaming Pardew is exactly what Ashley will want.

 

* signs-off Leazes's and Parky's expenses for November.

 

I know what you're getting at but I don't think the two things are mutually exclusive tbf. I don't think anyone's blind to the fact that Ashley is the root cause of all this fucking shit.

 

What Pardew has seemingly done though, and knowingly, is accept a managers position which looks like it is even more marginalised/emasculated than the one that Hughton was occupying previously. And quite wrongly, that was a limited enough role to start with.

 

I don't blame anyone for wanting to work; Pardew's a jobbing manager at the end of the day and I imagine most people on here would rightly take a pretty dim view of anyone telling them they weren't entitled to try and earn a living, but at the same time he has to be completely honest with himself about what he's taken on. Because he's done it with eyes wide open and people will make their own minds up whether that amounts to some small form of complicity in the overall strategy being pursued by Ashley, because obviously it contributes to allowing it to happen.

 

I reiterate though, it doesnt in any way blind me to the fact of what/whom the root cause is.

[Meenzer 15370]

Say it, sista!

 

 

 

...erm, I couldn't agree more.

[TicTacWoe 0]

really feel like giving up on football for a while at least, honestly this club, it's beyond a joke, has been for years, but this is honestly a new low that I didn't think we could reach. Bad enough firing Hughton, but giving the job to this useless turd, purely because he's your mate, and giving him a 5 and a half contract no less, it beggars belief. BLEAK.

[Dr Gloom 21801]

cunts

[trophyshy 7069]

some anagrams;

 

pal earn wad

 

wad are plan?

 

war and plea

 

penal award

 

darn ape law

 

Dawn are lap

 

pad near law

 

wan rape lad

 

and of course; warped an'al

[Kitman 2204]

He felt the Squad was good enough to get promoted. He was right.

 

He felt Hughton could oversee that promotion. He was right.

 

He has put rigerous financial controls in place. Which is so far certainly looking right.

 

He has appointed someone he thinks is btter than Hughton.

 

FYP. We've no idea why he appointed Pardoo, have we?

 

 

??? We dont but he obviously thinks he's better, hence the appointment?

 

Better in what sense? His appointment could be for any number of non-footballing reasons

 

- he's a good mate

- he's not black

- Ashley wants a bastard in charge

- Ashley wants a disciplinarian

- he won't challenge Ashley

- he will allow players to be sold

- Ashley likes cocky people

- he owes Ashley

- he's compliant

- he won't make demands for resources

 

etc. We don't know why he's appointed Pardew, we don't know anything about it.

 

What's obvious is that he doesn't have a superior record football wise to Hughton. In fact he's been sacked from his last 3 jobs. So on a footballing level it makes no sense whatsoever, which is all I really care about.

 

I realise you were talking about 'better' from Ashley's perspective, but I don't think that's necessarily a positive thing and we haven't a clue what has motivated this move anyway.

[TicTacWoe 0]

He felt the Squad was good enough to get promoted. He was right.

 

He felt Hughton could oversee that promotion. He was right.

 

He has put rigerous financial controls in place. Which is so far certainly looking right.

 

He has appointed someone he thinks is btter than Hughton.

 

FYP. We've no idea why he appointed Pardoo, have we?

 

 

??? We dont but he obviously thinks he's better, hence the appointment?

 

Better in what sense? His appointment could be for any number of non-footballing reasons

 

- he's a good mate

- he's not black

- Ashley wants a bastard in charge

- Ashley wants a disciplinarian

- he won't challenge Ashley

- he will allow players to be sold

- Ashley likes cocky people

- he owes Ashley

- he's compliant

- he won't make demands for resources

 

etc. We don't know why he's appointed Pardew, we don't know anything about it.

 

What's obvious is that he doesn't have a superior record football wise to Hughton. In fact he's been sacked from his last 3 jobs. So on a footballing level it makes no sense whatsoever, which is all I really care about.

 

I realise you were talking about 'better' from Ashley's perspective, but I don't think that's necessarily a positive thing and we haven't a clue what has motivated this move anyway.

 

as far as I'm concerned it's almost exclusively because he's Ashley's mate, maybe he thinks he can have even more influence on what's going on at the club through Pardew than he could with CH, ie the buying and selling of players and so on.

[AmericanMag 0]

Understandably a tough couple of days for many reasons, but I think some of the reaction is a bit over the top once you stop to think things through.

 

I liked Chris Hughton because he was a nice guy, a decent guy, reminded me a bit of Sir Bob and was a breath of fresh and stability following the departure of Special K.

 

I cant say Chris Hughtons style of football is this or that or he was showing signs of being a great tactician or any other qualities you associate with great Managers.

 

Was he a good man manager or just a soft touch? Its well documented about the gang of four running the show.

 

Did he have a vision? A Plan? etc etc Again I dont know.

 

Yes Ashleys a cunt. Yes Chris could have had more to spend? Yes the pis poor squad didnt help our recent form?

 

But again when I think of Chris the words Dignified comes to mind and while that was a breath of fresh air, at the end of the day its probably not enough. As an optimist I would like to think he could have grown into the job and everything would have worked out, but usually nice guys come last.

 

A lot of stuff is coming out about the crap he had to put up with. Was it dignified just to accept it or should he have done what KK and most managers would have done. Was he a Yes Man.

 

If it was Martin Jol or Martin Oneil getting unveiled tomorrow, most wouldnt miss Chris too much. Unfortunately its looking like Pardew. While thats a big Anti climax, Im not sure its leaving us worse off than under Chris, and it might even leave us better off. (Time will tell).

 

But its certainly not something to boycott over or never go back, its just another chapter of many.

 

I was more livid about KK and more livid about the renaming of the ground.

 

I'll expect the usual contrary slavver but for the time being, Pardew will get my backing.

Wind up I don't care what no cunt says. No one can hold these views.

 

It appears no one can argue against them.

Not that it will take much effort but I will at dinner time.

You're not sure it will leave us any worse off than we were under Chris?? Hughton has been at the club nearly three years in various capacities, he knew all of the players very well, he knew their positions and capabilities very well, he was respected by the entire coaching and playing staff, and in time he was respected by the vast majority of toon fans. We lost 4 games in 46 in the Championship in a campaign where a majority were saying we'd be doing well if we reached the play offs, he played conservatively away from home which pissed some off, but ultimately we garnered more points away from home than any other team in English football.

 

This season people have been saying he's tactically naive, we've played really shit in three games, THREE. In our first season back up, we've played the Champions twice and haven't lost, beat the team with the second most points from Jan to May last year on their own ground (the blue dippers), we've beaten a side who have only lost 6 times ever at their stadium (Arsenal), we beat the mackems 5-1 our biggest win against them in 50 year, we beat Villa 6-0 our biggest win against them ever, we've won three in a row in London, yes we've dropped silly points, but if anything was seriously broken do you think we'd have even had one point from the games I've mentioned? The Arsenal game away was commitment wise and tactically easily the best NUFC performance on those fronts in the last five years.

 

Yet you are saying an appointment that was supposed to be "an experience Premiership manager", when it turns out to be Alan Pardew sacked from everywhere but READING, a manager who as I mentioned yesterday preferred Harewood to Tevez, HAYDEN Mullins to Mascherano, a man disliked by most of his ex players who is perceived as arrogant, who has achieved FUCK ALL in his career, you're entertaining the idea that nothing is broken? The players even if they grow to like him, will be all over the place mentally for a good few weeks, with our hardest run of games coming this month. You talk too much in your taxi that much is clear, so much so you're not clear in your view, you and many others search too hard for an alternative view when the truth is slapping you in the face.

 

The likes of Jaythesouthernmug, and other mugs as well, mouthy as fuck talking shit, it's no wonder good old posters are leaving and I'll not be long, mouthy cunts, the thing is right I don't claim to be hard, I'm not, but I never say anything on here I wouldn't to someones face, too many cunts on here at the minute.

 

 

Agree with everything that was said here.

 

As someone who lives too far from Newcastle to be considered by some a proper fan, and also being unfortunate in the fact that I am not a geordie in any way, I don't post too often but "lurk" as I enjoy reading the views of those who feel as strongly about this club as I do (and I am sure that many will believe that I don't/can't feel as strongly as that because of my "shortcomings").

 

I feel for all of you that live in and around Newcastle as you are the ones that spend the money on the season tickets and the days out for the games. Living in the area and looking up, seeing SJP and knowing that inside are Ashley, Llambias, and now Pardew would do nothing but keep me in a constant state of anger (until apathy sets in) at what is being done. It is a testament to what the fat bastard has done when many of you speak (and rightly so) of chucking your Season Tickets in after this season and staying away from the club.

 

I have no idea as to how I am going to cope with the possible next five and a half years that Pardew may be in charge of the team.

 

 

PS Thanks to Gemmill for making me laugh with some of your posts...

Mate you're as much of a fan as anyone all this fan hierarchy bollocks, we all love the club they make us happy and they make us sad, if you love Newcastle United that's all that counts and I'll never look down my nose at you, clearly your passionate post shows how deeply you care.

 

 

Thanks. That's really appreciated.

[David Kelly 1219]

Blaming Pardew is exactly what Ashley will want.

 

* signs-off Leazes's and Parky's expenses for November.

 

I know what you're getting at but I don't think the two things are mutually exclusive tbf. I don't think anyone's blind to the fact that Ashley is the root cause of all this fucking shit.

 

What Pardew has seemingly done though, and knowingly, is accept a managers position which looks like it is even more marginalised/emasculated than the one that Hughton was occupying previously. And quite wrongly, that was a limited enough role to start with.

 

I don't blame anyone for wanting to work; Pardew's a jobbing manager at the end of the day and I imagine most people on here would rightly take a pretty dim view of anyone telling them they weren't entitled to try and earn a living, but at the same time he has to be completely honest with himself about what he's taken on. Because he's done it with eyes wide open and people will make their own minds up whether that amounts to some small form of complicity in the overall strategy being pursued by Ashley, because obviously it contributes to allowing it to happen.

 

I reiterate though, it doesnt in any way blind me to the fact of what/whom the root cause is.

Spot on post this. Ashley is the problem but this cunt is knowingly allowing himself to be part of it. They both deserve our contempt. The worst thing we could do would be to lose focus on fcb but that shouldnt let pardew of the hook either.

[Christmas Tree 4679]

So Hughton was a cunt for being part of it? What about Beardsley? Steve Stone? The Tea Lady?

 

Hughton never complained about anything so the idea Ashley changed managers for a better still is just daft.

[Kitman 2204]

So Hughton was a cunt for being part of it? What about Beardsley? Steve Stone? The Tea Lady?

 

Hughton never complained about anything so the idea Ashley changed managers for a better still is just daft.

 

What's "a better still"?

[trophyshy 7069]

So Hughton was a cunt for being part of it? What about Beardsley? Steve Stone? The Tea Lady?

 

Hughton never complained about anything so the idea Ashley changed managers for a better still is just daft.

 

What's "a better still"?

 

making their own booze now, further radical cost cutting.

[Kitman 2204]

So Hughton was a cunt for being part of it? What about Beardsley? Steve Stone? The Tea Lady?

 

Hughton never complained about anything so the idea Ashley changed managers for a better still is just daft.

 

What's "a better still"?

 

making their own booze now, further radical cost cutting.

 

Well he's right, that is daft. They should be improving their skills, not brewing their own ale

[Christmas Tree 4679]

So Hughton was a cunt for being part of it? What about Beardsley? Steve Stone? The Tea Lady?

 

Hughton never complained about anything so the idea Ashley changed managers for a better still is just daft.

 

What's "a better still"?

 

 

Stool

[ewerk 30221]

So Hughton was a cunt for being part of it? What about Beardsley? Steve Stone? The Tea Lady?

 

Hughton never complained about anything so the idea Ashley changed managers for a better still is just daft.

 

Clearly Hughton must have been doing a fair bit of complaining behind closed doors. The way it should be done.

[ChezGiven 0]

So Hughton was a cunt for being part of it? What about Beardsley? Steve Stone? The Tea Lady?

 

Hughton never complained about anything so the idea Ashley changed managers for a better still is just daft.

 

Clearly Hughton must have been doing a fair bit of complaining behind closed doors. The way it should be done.

 

Pure conjecture and less likely to be the truth that what CT has said. Sorry like, its not what we want to hear but its what cold, objective thinking tells you.

 

Hughton's media communications served the club's interests, never his own. I think the idea that he was all sweetness and light in the press and an Allardyce in the boardroom is far-fetched.

[ewerk 30221]

So Hughton was a cunt for being part of it? What about Beardsley? Steve Stone? The Tea Lady?

 

Hughton never complained about anything so the idea Ashley changed managers for a better still is just daft.

 

Clearly Hughton must have been doing a fair bit of complaining behind closed doors. The way it should be done.

 

Pure conjecture and less likely to be the truth that what CT has said. Sorry like, its not what we want to hear but its what cold, objective thinking tells you.

 

Hughton's media communications served the club's interests, never his own. I think the idea that he was all sweetness and light in the press and an Allardyce in the boardroom is far-fetched.

 

I'm not saying that he was an Allardyce but clearly he must have been causing Ashley and Llambias some sort of problem behind the scenes. Don't underestimate him, he wasn't the yes man that we all believed he was when he was appointed.

[sweetleftpeg 0]

What a total crock of PR shit that was yesterday. All that shite about if he needs to strengthen he'll be onto Ashley and Llambias hassling them. Give us a fucking break man. I'd rather they were honest than patronising, I might have a teeny, tiny, pea size bit of respect for them. No fucking more though.

[Billy Castell 0]

To me Hughton seemed the polite kind of guy who'd quietly get on with things, but have a word with Ashley about the need to improve the squad behind the scenes. He probably did that a bit toooften for Ashley's liking.

[Guest alex]

To me Hughton seemed the polite kind of guy who'd quietly get on with things, but have a word with Ashley about the need to improve the squad behind the scenes. He probably did that a bit toooften for Ashley's liking.

That's my reading of the situation as well. Daft thing is, he'll have been doing it in the best interests of the football club.

[JawD 99]

To me Hughton seemed the polite kind of guy who'd quietly get on with things, but have a word with Ashley about the need to improve the squad behind the scenes. He probably did that a bit toooften for Ashley's liking.

That's my reading of the situation as well. Daft thing is, he'll have been doing it in the best interests of the football club.

 

How very dare he!