trooper 940 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 They've been Pardewed... He's incapable of getting results with players who have trained with him for any length of time. Only with new blood. On that basis we should be flying when all the newbies come in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausman 0 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Tell me you're joking? Bielsa would probably chin Ashley before even signing a contract. That would be worth it, just for that alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 The scary thing is we'll have Pardew as long as Ashley's in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 They've been Pardewed... He's incapable of getting results with players who have trained with him for any length of time. Only with new blood. Embarrassing, so it really shows he's completely incapable of forming a system. He just benefits from the rush of excitement and adrenaline that comes from lads coming to a new club. He's a fraud, I know people keep saying it makes no difference if he goes but it fucking does, the stat Tooj posted about him suffering 19 losses by 3 or more goals compared to 35 since 1993 shows he's a disgrace. How many times have we won comfortably against 11 men this season? or the whole time he's been in charge? even when we had that amazing run with Ba, Cabaye etc we still only won most games by 1 goal. He's simply one of the worst managers in the league, stats like yours and Tooj's show that. I don't even care if the replacement is only marginally better I can't stand this bloke anymore, his teams simply roll over and take their hidings, we rarely stand up to the bigger sides or in form sides we just curl up. We're incapable of come backs, It's been a long time since we've seen a Newcastle side that look so beaten when they go a goal down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonatine 11376 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 We're incapable of come backs, It's been a long time since we've seen a Newcastle side that look so beaten when they go a goal down. We've gone from being the comeback kings under SBR, to the comeback cunts under Pardew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7083 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Flyaway Pardew, comeback cunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33198 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 My personal favourite shittest manager was Souness until JFK came along and tied with him. At least Souness managed to beat Sunderland though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 We've gone from being the comeback kings under SBR, to the comeback cunts under Pardew. Yup, his spinelessness has translated to the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4156 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Considering some of the stats above, and considering the kind of owner we have, its a miracle we are still top 10. Or is it a matter of time before it all blows up in our face again? Im truly fearful about the upcoming season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42440 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Flyaway Pardew, comeback cunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 `We're desperate for a win.We really are.We're really desperate for a win......blah blah blah' .Is that the best he can come up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMoog 0 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 FYP: The scary thing is we'll have no ambition, a shit manager, players that don't give a fuck and general misery as long as Ashley's in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Considering some of the stats above, and considering the kind of owner we have, its a miracle we are still top 10. Or is it a matter of time before it all blows up in our face again? Im truly fearful about the upcoming season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2207 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Considering some of the stats above, and considering the kind of owner we have, its a miracle we are still top 10. Or is it a matter of time before it all blows up in our face again? Im truly fearful about the upcoming season. I'd like to think Pardew will be sacked as soon as the season ends if the current malaise continues as expected. Apparently he was nearly sacked last summer....by anyones standards the second half of the season has been a dismal failure....any sensible owner would be moved to action to prevent a repeat next season. Of course we don't have a sensible owner so...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 On that basis we should be flying when all the newbies come in the summer. In all fairness, we probably will. I've said a few times I can see why we would prefer to spend in summer rather than January this year, so I still expect us to spend more than Ashley has in any previous year come the new season. Seriously. Over the last 7 years We have spent more than Everton on players - even though we spent a year in the championship. If they're challenging for Champions League there's no reason (Ashley asides) we couldn't attract an ex-Wigan boss. They're champions league contenders now. If Ashley wants the best return on his investment in players, he's best not handing them to Pardew given the short term level of performance he's capable of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6583 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 (edited) He must be close to throwing the toys out of the pram and threatening to play the reserve team now. Normally supporters say that in jest (or don't have a clue what they are talking about) but in this case we are getting tonked 3/4 -0 every week and that must mean the players aren't giving 100%. All the WC players would be shitting themselves about getting in their squads if they didnt play for 3 months. Having said that he has to go. Its an absolute shambles at the moment and not up to NUFC standards. The whole situation is damaging both short and long term now. Teams that beat us comfortably this season have the confidence to say "we beat them 4-0 last year, this isnt a difficult place to go to." Its a sliding effect and we've let standards slip. Players and management are both to blame. Edited April 7, 2014 by Holden McGroin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Excellently put.Why give playing time to players who are not giving 100% or are on their bike this summer.Where is there any gain for NUFC.Get a youngin or two onto the pitch to give them Premier League experience which can only help them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7083 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 (edited) And fuck all will be done. Ashley views it as a loss leader. He's prepared to let it fester as long as it props up his main gig. I think he'll give Pardew until Christmas, if we look like relegation then he might act. He just doesn't want to have to deal with the club, so the easiest option is status quo/nepotism/path of least resistance. Edited April 7, 2014 by trophyshy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 You know Ashley will be loving this the footballing side of NUFC is in disarray yet still the grounds packed out. It's not affecting him financially so he wont give a toss Pardews not happy, the players aren't happy, the fans aren't happy. Ashleys response I would imagine would be "are the fans still coming & they're not singing nasty songs about me so fuck 'em when they stop coming let me know" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 You know Ashley will be loving this the footballing side of NUFC is in disarray yet still the grounds packed out. It's not affecting him financially so he wont give a toss Pardews not happy, the players aren't happy, the fans aren't happy. Ashleys response I would imagine would be "are the fans still coming & they're not singing nasty songs about me so fuck 'em when they stop coming let me know" Ashley hasn't got any players he can sell at a big fat profit. He'll be pissed off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30610 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 (edited) Santon was around £5m iirc, how much more would we get for him now? Krul's valuation won't be as high as it would if he had made the Dutch WC squad. Edit: Though Krul's fee would be all profit at this point. Edited April 7, 2014 by ewerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 He'll still get a few bob for Debuchy & HBA as well so there's no worry there the only way he'll be bothered is if attendance's drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/newcastle-united/startseite/verein_762.html Player valuations 2013/14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Cabaye got the PSG tax. We saw what Arsenal were willing to pay. Can't see any of our foreigners going for much more than we paid. Santon can barely keep Dummet or Haidara out of the team. Krul is the only one who would get a good profit imo. Still a fraction of Cabaye and Carroll though. EDIT: Potentially, I agree, there's big profit in several players. Just not after the season they've mostly had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonatine 11376 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Saw this on .com..... Here's the record that has seen Hughton sacked:Chris Hughton's last fourteen games: 13 points(7 losses, 4 draws, 3 wins. 10 goals for, 20 against)Here's the record that will see Pardew get a bonus:Alan Pardew's last fourteen games: 13 points (9 defeats, 1 draw, 4 wins. 9 goals for, 27 against) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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