Monkeys Fist 42428 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Even the subjugated cow has the right to hope for a gentler milking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7083 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Right now Ashley has the man that can achieve his minimal requirements. Calling for Pardew's head is implicitly stating that it's Pardew that's holding us back. In your analogy, we'd be swapping Hulk Hogan yanking on our teets, for Andre the Giant. Doesn't matter who's doing the violent milking, because Ashley is lifting up our collective tail and dry fucking us into the abbatoir. You can't change the organ grinder so you might as well lick the monkey's ringpiece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 You can't change the organ grinder so you might as well lick the monkey's ringpiece. Criticise him, sure, but do so understanding that his limitations are exacerbated by the shackles of a Mike Ashley ownership and do so understanding that the replacement may (and imo will likely) be even worse. Which competent, ambitious manager will come nito a regime that actively dissuades competing for the only trophies we've a chance fo winning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7083 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Criticise him, sure, but do so understanding that his limitations are exacerbated by the shackles of a Mike Ashley ownership and do so understanding that the replacement may (and imo will likely) be even worse. Which competent, ambitious manager will come nito a regime that actively dissuades competing for the only trophies we've a chance fo winning? We don't need to keep repeating that Ashley is the main problem. That is explicit. I actually think we've got a lot of decent players that under perform thanks to Pardew. I also harbour the possibility that another man could do better with them and have less of Smithers role with Ashley. There is no benefit to be had in calling for the owner to change, there may be benefit in the manager changing. I'm prepared to roll the dice. Pardew is a loathsome slime ball who has no excuse too low to trot out to explain away his ineptitude. Has any other manager presided over so many absolute shoeings? You're resigned to sticking with Pardew based on a Kylie Minogue song, fair play to you but I'd readily accept tasting a different shade of shit in the hope it's more palatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 We don't need to keep repeating that Ashley is the main problem. That is explicit. I actually think we've got a lot of decent players that under perform thanks to Pardew. I also harbour the possibility that another man could do better with them and have less of Smithers role with Ashley. There is no benefit to be had in calling for the owner to change, there may be benefit in the manager changing. I'm prepared to roll the dice. Pardew is a loathsome slime ball who has no excuse too low to trot out to explain away his ineptitude. Has any other manager presided over so many absolute shoeings? You're resigned to sticking with Pardew based on a Kylie Minogue song, fair play to you but I'd readily accept tasting a different shade of shit in the hope it's more palatable. No, I'm resigned to the fact that the manager is immaterial. It's like changing the colour of the condom that you put on the guy that's fucking you up the tradesmans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7083 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 (edited) No, I'm resigned to the fact that the manager is immaterial. It's like changing the colour of the condom that you put on the guy that's fucking you up the tradesmans. Go for the extra strong Fish. And I disagree that changing the manager is immaterial. Maybe window dressing, but that'd be better than another 6 years of Pardew baring his arse in it. Edited February 15, 2014 by trophyshy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Go for the extra strong Fish. And I disagree that changing the manager is immaterial. Maybe window dressing, but that'd be better than another 6 years of Pardew baring his arse in it. I'm honestly clinging to the hope that Ashley won't be here that much longer and Pardew will get a season after that, then replaced by me, I sign a few young dutch lads and surge up the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17256 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Go for the extra strong Fish. And I disagree that changing the manager is immaterial. Maybe window dressing, but that'd be better than another 6 years of Pardew baring his arse in it. Magaths just gone to Fulham. How much do you reckon theyve offered him?....Pardew is just right in Ashleys eyes. You know how we like a "deal" in the transfer market?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Has he gone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Seems to be Bollocks though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Seeing nothing at all. Be amazed if he's binned off any time soon and even more amazed if he quits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hostile_statue 0 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17256 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 No chance of him getting fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 No chance of him getting fired. No manager with any sense would take this job under this regime IF Pardew did go it would solve nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30602 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 No chance of him getting fired. Just two months after picking up the manager of the month? It's paper talk shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2204 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Yeah agreed. His brief this season was top half. We're still on course to achieve that regardless of the current sticky patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 He's not gonna get the sack. Ashley wants a manager to appease him and not the fans. While Ashley's here we're not gonna get a manager like Hughton who had the respect of the fans. Pardew doesn't have that and will never have that as we know that he really isn't bothered about us, like everyone else at the club. Hughton was shackled by Ashley but at least we knew he wanted better for us and not for those above him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13863 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 No manager with any sense would take this job under this regime IF Pardew did go it would solve nothing. Cardiff had plenty of managers interested and Tan's far more mental than Ashley. The idea that nobody would work under a man who sanctions the signings of French and Dutch international players is mental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Cardiff had plenty of managers interested and Tan's far more mental than Ashley. The idea that nobody would work under a man who sanctions the signings of French and Dutch international players is mental. It's not that nobody would want the job it's that the calibre of the manager won't be any better than Pardew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/alan-pardew-reveals-taking-spirit-6751389 Who dares wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 It's not that nobody would want the job it's that the calibre of the manager won't be any better than Pardew There are dozens of European managers gagging for a crack at the PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 There are dozens of European managers gagging for a crack at the PL. No doubt, but how many European managers have had a crack at the PL and have been found wanting? Ashley definitely wouldn't fancy the risk either. Look, Pardew is average, but he's compliant and good enough to get Ashley to his stated aim; top half of the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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