Gemmill 46088 Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Which clubs do you see coming in for him like? Honestly, I think this is the least of our concerns. His reputation was shot when we picked him up. He's gone some way towards fixing it, with the help of a very able scout, but I don't think any of the clubs that he would realistically leave us for are under the illusion that he's the next Mourinho. I haven't even seen any quotes to back this up either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4851 Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Here for life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 3116 Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 If he gets good he can sell himself and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerbarton 24 Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 The guy's done a very good job given the circumstances. I quite like the way he's handled himself since taking the job and I don't think anyone can complain with where we are right now. Remember the bad spell came when Colo/Saylor/Williamson were out injured - there's no team that would look solid with no fit centre backs and James Perch as the backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4851 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Link to podcast of Pardews live interview on total sport. Have listened myself so dont know how good it is. http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/nufc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4851 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 How Pardew Won Toon Over Newcastle manager tells Martin Hardy how his attention to detail – from carefully selecting his staff to reading the right books – has helped convince an initially sceptical Tyneside public the club is on the up. 'Ladies and gentlemen," the speaker begins. "I'd like to introduce our special guest, Alan Pardew, who's doing a fantastic job." There are a couple of cries of "Hear, hear" from a packed room, the applause starts, arms go in the air and mobile phones take pictures and start videoing. Those at the back stand on chairs for a better view. We are at the new home of Gateshead Redheugh FC, where an innovative facility that caters for young footballers – as well as the homeless – is officially being opened. "Well done to everyone who's been involved," says the Newcastle United manager. "It's fantastic to have a facility like this. It will help with the great work for players to learn discipline here. I hope it's thoroughly enjoyable for everybody." There is genuine, warm applause. More mobile phones click, still on camera mode; local television cameras jostle for a decent shot before Pardew heads to the brief sanctuary of the buffet room to talk about a period of his life he will never forget. It is 13 months since he walked down the tunnel at St James' Park for the first time as the home club's manager, for a live televised game against Liverpool. Then he cut a lonely figure, not lacking in confidence or belief, but a man walking head-on into a storm, following his appointment as Chris Hughton's successor. The blinding flashlights then belonged to a huge group of professional photographers as he climbed the final steps that lead to the home dugout. He gave a brief wave and readied himself for work. "The Liverpool game seems so long ago I can hardly remember it," he says now. "My over-riding desire at that time was to win the game, if I'm honest. I did not really notice too much that was going on; the media and everyone else probably noticed more than I did. We managed to win and that was an important win. "Of course, of course, I had to win people over. It was difficult at the start and then losing Andy Carroll was a big blow as well but I think as a manager I've matured over the years, in different circumstances, and that has helped because this is a much bigger club and you have to understand that. There is a responsibility that comes with it. "No, I didn't understand the esteem you are held in as manager of this football club. It's like me trying to explain to Papiss [Cissé , Newcastle's new signing] what the No 9 shirt means. You have to experience it. This is another experience for me. "It has been nice to get a positive reaction tonight because obviously it's a reflection that we're doing OK and long may that continue. I've had nice comments from people here. I think they appreciate the team is an honest one. Hopefully we can continue that in the second part of the season. "The important thing is I have good people around me who are working very, very hard and more importantly great players, because you can't have success without great players." Back in 2006, Pardew, then manager of West Ham, said: "I firmly believe that in the development of any team there is a tipping point, when all the good things you have done start to produce the results." It was a reference to the influence of the author Malcolm Gladwell and his book The Tipping Point: How little things can make a difference. The premise of which, to Pardew at least, is that you get the technical details right until you reach the point where everyone feeds off each other's confidence, where the club starts to function like a well-oiled machine. Back in November, at the start of the week leading up to Newcastle's home game with Chelsea, a match given more prominence by United's excellent start to the season, a picture was put on a wall deep within the club's training ground. In its frame were the following words: "Chelsea FC have lost three of their last four games." Every member of Newcastle's first-team squad had to pass the picture numerous times each day. Ultimately, they lost the match, but Pardew's side hit the woodwork three times, had two shots cleared off the line and had a very early and justified shout for a red card against David Luiz turned down. Whatever they lacked that day, it was certainly not belief. The tipping point for Gateshead Redheugh 1957 FC – which has given the footballing world Paul Gascoigne, Don Hutchison and Andy Carroll to name but three – has been the coming together of the Football Foundation, the club itself (and the 17 teams it runs), Durham County FA, the Premier League, the FA, Four Housing Group and The Cyrenians to create a £2.7m facility that offers a chance to its footballers and accommodation for 20 potentially homeless young adults. It also goes some way to pinpointing the methods that have been undertaken to make Newcastle the surprise package of the season. Pardew has left few stones unturned since taking over. Earlier in his reign there was a talk-in at Whitley Bay Football Club at which he faced every question from the floor. At the club's training ground in the summer, a huge amount of work went into updating the facilities. By his side are now trusted lieutenants, John Carver, Steve Stone and Andy Woodman. "There are lots of books I read and that are important to me in terms of what I have established my vision of really," he adds. "It is important through events like this that the community is seen as growing. "The Tipping Point makes a strong point in the book that the broken windows policy they had in New York, which was just to fix windows and fix the seats, made everyone think the community was being looked after and suddenly the murder rate went down. That is an extreme example but this is an example of that. Look, there is a recession, there are tough times, but here's a new facility – look after it, take care of it and I'm sure the young people here will respect it, and it is worth respecting. "I made it clear that there were certain tolerances I wouldn't accept at the training ground. As you go along you can put in discipline in the training ground that becomes important to the football club. I think that does happen and it is important. "You have to have good staff and good players who respond to you. Fortunately I have had a good response from everyone on the training ground. John Carver [Pardew's No 2, who is with him at the opening] has been the biggest employee for me. He has connections all throughout this community. I know what the word on the street is. I know what the word is in the local football community and he can explain to me the importance of events like this. "You like to think 13 months down the line we have a style of play that everyone knows and understands. That is important. Looking at those finer details can help you dig out a win here and there. We have managed to do that this year more than we did last year." Today Pardew takes his side – and Newcastle now feel like his side – to Brighton in the fourth round of the FA Cup. Back in 2006, his West Ham were leading the FA Cup final against Liverpool as the game went past 90 minutes. If they had held on, he would have been the first English manager to lift the trophy for 11 years. Steven Gerrard scored in injury time and West Ham were defeated on penalties. It has taken six years for his lot to rise again to similar levels, to the point he is now included on the shortlist for the forthcoming England position. "You have to have trust and enough faith in your ability," he adds. "I believe I am good at what I do and I need to prove that; that is what I have tried to do here. "The FA Cup levels the playing field and it gives us the opportunity of winning a trophy and also of getting into Europe. If players, from whatever country, can't grasp that, then it's my job to make sure they do. I've been stressing the importance of this competition. There is still the second half of the season to play and all to play for. "It will be nice to see the guys from Africa come back fit and well [senegal's early elimination from the African Cup of Nations means Demba Ba and Cissé could return against Blackburn on Wednesday]. Then we will see what we can do. The two guys coming back early is a big bonus for us. I am excited by the new player. He's got a really good chance of being a success here. "It's been nice to have a little break like this and see a few smiley faces, and then it's back to business." It has rarely been anything but. Alan Pardew was at the opening of the new state-of-the-art sports pavilion at Gateshead Redheugh 1957 FC. The club worked in partnership with Durham County FA to secure a £102,000 grant from the Football Foundation. The pavilion forms part of a £2.7m scheme which will provide a training centre for the homeless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruski 0 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Good article that. He always speaks so well and seems to have stressed to the players the importance of professionalism in and around the club which is clearly working. Fair play to the bloke. He walked into the club in the middle of a shit storm and has come out smelling of roses. As long as we get through the next few days without losing any players I honestly believe we can finish in a very good position and fingers crossed for a cup run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon_Man 0 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 He's a very efficient and I can't seem to remember him putting a word wrong as manager of Newcastle. He's always well presented on the sideline with a suit and I think he's been excellent. I dare say it, with Hughton I doubt we'd be in this position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 I can't seem to remember him putting a word wrong as manager of Newcastle. I certainly can - promising "100%" that Carroll would not be sold. Thankfully he's well aware that he shouldn't have done that and has never said anything like it since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyshinton 59 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Good article that. He always speaks so well and seems to have stressed to the players the importance of professionalism in and around the club which is clearly working. Fair play to the bloke. He walked into the club in the middle of a shit storm and has come out smelling of roses. As long as we get through the next few days without losing any players I honestly believe we can finish in a very good position and fingers crossed for a cup run. ditto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Ant you're such a miserable fucker at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46088 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Ant you're such a miserable fucker at times. Ridiculously negative bloke like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 14069 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 6th top should eliminate most of the misgivings about him tbh. At least he comes across well; the teams around us can't really say that about their managers. Unless you consider condoning racism, petulant whinging, disrespect toward other clubs, excuse-making and possibly facing a jail sentence as preferable alternatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46088 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Chill the fuck out man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46088 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Bill Clinton is a fucking ledge btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Haven't read it but i can assume the gist, he'll never win me over sorry it's that simple, for all the "he came in under hard times" stuff, it was well noted on here 6months before Houghton was sacked that Pardew was lined up, he came in here because #1 they couldn't get anyone better and #2 his reputation was in such tatters that he couldn't choose to work elsewhere, and he knew full well what he was coming in under and how it would be with the board above him etcetc. "I certainly can - promising "100%" that Carroll would not be sold." - he knew rightly they were being sold he was just stupid enough at the time to say that and take one on the chin for his mates. He can do the pr smiley bit all he wants, due to the circumstances he joined us under and his previous history at other clubs the man will never be anything other than sleekit for me, sorry winning a few games and managing to keep your nose clean for a year doesn't undo history i'm afraid. So your hysteria is based around: - People making unsubstantiated claims about how he was lined up for the job months in advance of Hughton getting the sack. Did it not occur to you that if this is the case, perhaps Ashley wanted to give Hughton a chance in the Prem before making a final decision on whether to stick with Hughton or not? Simply put, we're better off with Pardew. At the time I was thought it was a crazy decision but it's paid off handsomely. - Pardew's history at previous clubs. Sorry - what? What does that have to do with us now? Was he abusive in the past? Racist? Are you really against the man because it was claimed that he slept with a player's wiffe and because he doesn't get on Wenger? There is nothing in his past to warrant your ill-feelings towards him to the extent of your posts in this thread. In my opinion. Football is full of cunts. Full of them. Why do you single out Pardew? Because he gets on well with the regime? End of the day as manager of Newcastle United - all I really care about - he has done little wrong and he deserves plenty of credit for how we're doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaythesouthernmag 0 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 You might not like him as a person but as a manager and what he's getting out of the players and the spirit he's built up deserves some credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Have any of your friends had affairs with someone, Ant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 14069 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 All Pardew said was that Carroll wouldn't be leaving. I'm willing to think that was the case until a bid for 35 million pounds came in from The World's Worst Transfer Policy. You make it sound like no chairman has ever hired his mates before, for whatever reason. I liked Hughton as well but the progress without him has largely been down to Pardew building on the foundations he left behind. I think Mourinho is a bit of a bellend with a history of dodgy carry-on but I think I could forgive him if he turned up on our touchline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 3116 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 I think he's done well. Yes he seems a bit greasy but I believe he thought Carroll wouldn't be sold, can't really blame him for that one. There's no need to condemn the guy forever for a few past mistakes, everyone fucks up from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31224 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 I didn't want him based on his prior controversies, the snidey way he got himself the job knowing that Hughton was still here and most of all because I didn't think he was a very good manager. However, since he has been here he has got us into a league position none of us expected and for me he hasn't said/done a single thing wrong off the pitch. I'd still be slightly wary of him but I'm very happy to say that he has won me over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 I didn't want him based on his prior controversies, the snidey way he got himself the job knowing that Hughton was still here and most of all because I didn't think he was a very good manager. However, since he has been here he has got us into a league position none of us expected and for me he hasn't said/done a single thing wrong off the pitch. I'd still be slightly wary of him but I'm very happy to say that he has won me over. I quite like how meticulous he seems to be in his preparation for things. He seems to be a keen learner and quite a student of the game. Totally different to somebody like Souness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31224 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 A keen learner wouldn't have persisted with Obertan for as long as he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 (edited) I'm just pleased that the comparison to Bill Clinton came from Ant himself. I could write an essay on what I see his management qualities are, I may bore you all to death with that some time. He's not just done a good job, he's done it (a good job on more metrics than just league position too) in difficult circumstances. The idea that he is a second tier manager is also dead, his past has been made irrelevant by his present, as in most successful careers. Edited January 28, 2012 by ChezGiven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46088 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 I liked the bit in the other article about him going over to Germany to learn how they do things when he was in between jobs. Your average manager would be in the golf course, or in Dubai by the pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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