Alan Pardew - Poltroon sacked by a forrin team

[Giraffidae 0]

how come PR people write on behalf of journalists these days?

[manc-mag 1]

It will have more to do with Hughton's departure than Pardew himself, although neither does he appear to fit the bill of a big-name manager so often craved at St James' Park.

 

How does that work exactly?

 

Usual fucking bullshit tbh.

 

Moronic question:

 

 

Q. Which club/fans wouldn't want a big name manager (by that meaning a manager with a good reputation/standing in the game)?

A. None. Pointless question and point being made

 

 

Pertinent question:

 

Q. Which fans wanted rid of Hughton?

A. None

[Monkeys Fist 42449]

Alan Pardew is no 'new Joe Kinnear', his appointment at Newcastle could galvanise the club

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/...e-the-club.html

 

Last Saturday Alan Pardew was snowed in at his home in the Surrey hills, preventing him taking in Chelsea v Everton. This Saturday he will face a far more formidable obstacle as – if his talks with the club’s board are concluded satisfactorily – he will take charge of Newcastle United as they face Liverpool. It’s been a whirlwind week.

 

Pardew’s expected appointment, following the brutal sacking of Chris Hughton, will be greeted coldly by Newcastle supporters. And that’s putting it mildly.

 

It will have more to do with Hughton’s departure than Pardew himself, although neither does he appear to fit the bill of a big-name manager so often craved at St James’ Park.

 

Interestingly defender Jose Enrique made this point earlier in the week – surely times have changed? - but while some will argue that Pardew is similar to Hughton, they are very different characters.

 

Results will clearly dictate whether Pardew survives or fails but he is also savvy enough, bright enough, street-wise enough and confident enough to understand not only the special nature of the club – and the resonance that exists with his own background - but that he quickly needs to connect with the fans. He will do.

 

Certainly his history would suggest he is up to the task. Beyond the fact – often over-looked – that he is a far better coach, far more innovative manager and has the strength of personality to thrive in the top half of the Premier League – his back-story points to a man equipped to cope with what will be thrown at him.

 

Any suggestion that Newcastle are being presented with a ‘new Joe Kinnear’ is grossly unfair. Pardew , 49, is a very modern manager.

 

He can also sympathise directly with Hughton which will make him tread even more carefully.

 

Pardew’s departures from West Ham United, Charlton Athletic and, most definitely, Southampton earlier this season are heavily-laden with a sense of injustice, of being harshly treated and point to someone with not just a right to feel aggrieved but who can, with his work, motivate and build teams in the right circumstances.

 

At West Ham and Southampton he had to deal with the traumatic fall-out of clubs in freefall while he inherited Charlton at the bottom of the Premier League table.

 

He failed to keep them up because he was deprived of Darren Bent through injury and then, admittedly, struggled to cope as things imploded around him.

 

Maybe he rushed into that job too quickly after being sacked by West Ham. As justified as Hughton will feel that his dismissal was unfair, Pardew will argue that having re-built the Upton Park club, getting them promoted and taking them to an FA Cup Final, he should have been afforded more time than being sacked six months later as the team struggled.

 

There were also, however suggestions that he had allowed that success to go to his head. But, more relevantly, Eggert Magnusson had taken over by then and wanted him out.

 

At Southampton, Pardew inherited just a handful of players left from the squad that was relegated from the Championship and had to quickly knit together a new group and cope with a demoralising 10-point deduction.

 

He did all that and won the Johnstone’s Paint Trophy – Southampton’s first silverware since 1976 – but missed out on the play-offs.

 

It wasn’t good enough for chairman Nicola Cortese and it was clear at the end of last season that Pardew would be sacked. Two days after a 4-0 win against Bristol Rovers in August he was dismissed.

 

It could, therefore, be argued that his treatment at the hands of Magnusson and Cortese will have given him ideal preparation for what might now come under Mike Ashley at Newcastle.

 

A bigger test might be that he will inherit a team with several strong personalities not afraid to express their opinions. It’s not a re-building job at St James' Park, but a re-ordering one involving a more subtle approach. But he can galvanise the club.

 

Pardew is not naïve. He has said that the strength of his managerial career is his “strength of mind” having come to professional football late - he was 25 when he signed his first contract at Crystal Palace, a dream move realised three months after the death of his football-mad father, Harry, from throat cancer.

 

Before that Pardew worked as an apprentice glazer in the City of London, an experience that also helped sharpen his tongue. He is not often lost for words which has also helped him pick up media work in between managerial jobs.

 

More importantly, it gave him a world-view which he has taken into management. Pardew likes to explore the "psychological side" of football and examines other sports, especially American football, comparing the Green Bay Packers, with its “working-class roots” to West Ham. He will have a similar point of reference at Newcastle.

 

Sounds canny. Makes you wonder what all the fuss is about.

This springs to mind

[Gemmill 44881]

It will have more to do with Hughton’s departure than Pardew himself, although neither does he appear to fit the bill of a big-name manager so often craved at St James’ Park.

 

How does that work exactly?

 

Precisely. I mean why would you read past that fucking line.

[Happy Face 29]

Alan Pardew is no 'new Joe Kinnear', his appointment at Newcastle could galvanise the club

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/...e-the-club.html

 

 

Certainly his history would suggest he is up to the task. Beyond the fact – often over-looked – that he is a far better coach, far more innovative manager and has the strength of personality to thrive in the top half of the Premier League – his back-story points to a man equipped to cope with what will be thrown at him.

 

 

"Mr Burns: your campaign seems to have the momentum of a runaway freight train. Why are you so popular?''

[peasepud 59]

Certainly his history would suggest he is up to the task. Beyond the fact – often over-looked – that he is a far better coach, far more innovative manager and has the strength of personality to thrive in the top half of the Premier League – his back-story points to a man equipped to cope with what will be thrown at him.

 

Is that lifted from his CV?

[Guest You FCB Get Out Of Our Club]

There's a few anti Hughton snippets in the press like, claiming Graham Carr signed Ben Arfa and Tiote, and Hughton's input was Perch and Best. Even if Graham Carr brought those two to Hughton's attention isn't that what a scout is supposed to do, and we all know who's advice they signed Perch on and it wasn't Hughton's.

[manc-mag 1]

There's a few anti Hughton snippets in the press like, claiming Graham Carr signed Ben Arfa and Tiote, and Hughton's input was Perch and Best. Even if Graham Carr brought those two to Hughton's attention isn't that what a scout is supposed to do, and we all know who's advice they signed Perch on and it wasn't Hughton's.

 

QFT. Fucking abysmal that you should have to make the point though. If the media are touting any of that bollocks they can fuck off.

[JonGoodwyn 1]

Llambias said exactly the same sort of thing regarding Keegan, didn;t he?

[Guest You FCB Get Out Of Our Club]

There's a few anti Hughton snippets in the press like, claiming Graham Carr signed Ben Arfa and Tiote, and Hughton's input was Perch and Best. Even if Graham Carr brought those two to Hughton's attention isn't that what a scout is supposed to do, and we all know who's advice they signed Perch on and it wasn't Hughton's.

 

QFT. Fucking abysmal that you should have to make the point though. If the media are touting any of that bollocks they can fuck off.

The Journal says there were serious question marks surrounding Hughton’s transfer judgement. The two high profile summer signings were brought to the club by chief scout Graham Carr, not Hughton, and there was a feeling he lacked knowledge and was indecisive in this crucial area.

 

The Times are promoting the same bollocks. Absolutely unbelievable, do these clowns not realise Wenger has over 30 scouts worldwide, do they think fuckin Wenger went to watch Barca U16's for Fabregas?

[Park Life 71]

There's a few anti Hughton snippets in the press like, claiming Graham Carr signed Ben Arfa and Tiote, and Hughton's input was Perch and Best. Even if Graham Carr brought those two to Hughton's attention isn't that what a scout is supposed to do, and we all know who's advice they signed Perch on and it wasn't Hughton's.

 

QFT. Fucking abysmal that you should have to make the point though. If the media are touting any of that bollocks they can fuck off.

The Journal says there were serious question marks surrounding Hughton’s transfer judgement. The two high profile summer signings were brought to the club by chief scout Graham Carr, not Hughton, and there was a feeling he lacked knowledge and was indecisive in this crucial area.

 

The Times are promoting the same bollocks. Absolutely unbelievable, do these clowns not realise Wenger has over 30 scouts worldwide, do they think fuckin Wenger went to watch Barca U16's for Fabregas?

 

Would have thought Wenger would have been quite keen to watch Barca's U16's.

[Happy Face 29]

"Pardew would be interested in Marlon Harewood"

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/footbal...out-429841.html

 

 

[manc-mag 1]

There's a few anti Hughton snippets in the press like, claiming Graham Carr signed Ben Arfa and Tiote, and Hughton's input was Perch and Best. Even if Graham Carr brought those two to Hughton's attention isn't that what a scout is supposed to do, and we all know who's advice they signed Perch on and it wasn't Hughton's.

 

QFT. Fucking abysmal that you should have to make the point though. If the media are touting any of that bollocks they can fuck off.

The Journal says there were serious question marks surrounding Hughton's transfer judgement. The two high profile summer signings were brought to the club by chief scout Graham Carr, not Hughton, and there was a feeling he lacked knowledge and was indecisive in this crucial area.

 

The Times are promoting the same bollocks. Absolutely unbelievable, do these clowns not realise Wenger has over 30 scouts worldwide, do they think fuckin Wenger went to watch Barca U16's for Fabregas?

 

Bit extravagent he was even allowed a scout tbh given that he wasn't allowed a replacement coach. He should have carried out every scouting mission personally.

 

Also love the fact that (as a body of evidence), they'll have arrived at that conclusion with only half the facts. Ie they won't have known which players have been scouted/recommended for him that may have been complete horrors and that he would have rightly rejected.

 

Total fucking pish.

[Monkeys Fist 42449]

There's a few anti Hughton snippets in the press like, claiming Graham Carr signed Ben Arfa and Tiote, and Hughton's input was Perch and Best. Even if Graham Carr brought those two to Hughton's attention isn't that what a scout is supposed to do, and we all know who's advice they signed Perch on and it wasn't Hughton's.

 

QFT. Fucking abysmal that you should have to make the point though. If the media are touting any of that bollocks they can fuck off.

The Journal says there were serious question marks surrounding Hughton’s transfer judgement. The two high profile summer signings were brought to the club by chief scout Graham Carr, not Hughton, and there was a feeling he lacked knowledge and was indecisive in this crucial area.

 

The Times are promoting the same bollocks. Absolutely unbelievable, do these clowns not realise Wenger has over 30 scouts worldwide, do they think fuckin Wenger went to watch Barca U16's for Fabregas?

 

Would have thought Wenger would have been quite keen to watch Barca's U16's.

[Guest You FCB Get Out Of Our Club]

There's a few anti Hughton snippets in the press like, claiming Graham Carr signed Ben Arfa and Tiote, and Hughton's input was Perch and Best. Even if Graham Carr brought those two to Hughton's attention isn't that what a scout is supposed to do, and we all know who's advice they signed Perch on and it wasn't Hughton's.

 

QFT. Fucking abysmal that you should have to make the point though. If the media are touting any of that bollocks they can fuck off.

The Journal says there were serious question marks surrounding Hughton's transfer judgement. The two high profile summer signings were brought to the club by chief scout Graham Carr, not Hughton, and there was a feeling he lacked knowledge and was indecisive in this crucial area.

 

The Times are promoting the same bollocks. Absolutely unbelievable, do these clowns not realise Wenger has over 30 scouts worldwide, do they think fuckin Wenger went to watch Barca U16's for Fabregas?

 

Bit extravagent he was even allowed a scout tbh given that he wasn't allowed a replacement coach. He should have carried out every scouting mission personally.

 

Also love the fact that (as a body of evidence), they'll have arrived at that conclusion with only half the facts. Ie they won't have known which players have been scouted/recommended for him that may have been complete horrors and that he would have rightly rejected.

 

Total fucking pish.

I shouldn't let it but it winds me up, because it brain washes the idiotic masses, 80% of people with an interest in football aren't like the likes of me and you, their views mirror the views of the press at large because they are robots, I honestly think 4 in 5 people who claim to like football don't have a clue.

[Christmas Tree 4725]

Is it too soon for the positive spin....

[Guest You FCB Get Out Of Our Club]

http://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?198998-...l=1#post2655812

 

I tell you what coming from Scottish people from Edinburgh that might just be the best compliment toontastic has EVER had. Read "Max"'s crack

[Holden McGroin 6586]

Is it too soon for the positive spin....

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Dont fucking dare!

[peasepud 59]

Is it too soon for the positive spin....

 

If anyone can find it mate Im sure you can.... go for it

[Park Life 71]

Is it too soon for the positive spin....

 

YOu gotta fight KD first.

[Monkeys Fist 42449]

There's a few anti Hughton snippets in the press like, claiming Graham Carr signed Ben Arfa and Tiote, and Hughton's input was Perch and Best. Even if Graham Carr brought those two to Hughton's attention isn't that what a scout is supposed to do, and we all know who's advice they signed Perch on and it wasn't Hughton's.

 

QFT. Fucking abysmal that you should have to make the point though. If the media are touting any of that bollocks they can fuck off.

The Journal says there were serious question marks surrounding Hughton's transfer judgement. The two high profile summer signings were brought to the club by chief scout Graham Carr, not Hughton, and there was a feeling he lacked knowledge and was indecisive in this crucial area.

 

The Times are promoting the same bollocks. Absolutely unbelievable, do these clowns not realise Wenger has over 30 scouts worldwide, do they think fuckin Wenger went to watch Barca U16's for Fabregas?

 

Bit extravagent he was even allowed a scout tbh given that he wasn't allowed a replacement coach. He should have carried out every scouting mission personally.

 

Also love the fact that (as a body of evidence), they'll have arrived at that conclusion with only half the facts. Ie they won't have known which players have been scouted/recommended for him that may have been complete horrors and that he would have rightly rejected.

 

Total fucking pish.

I shouldn't let it but it winds me up, because it brain washes the idiotic masses, 80% of people with an interest in football aren't like the likes of me and you, their views mirror the views of the press at large because they are robots, I honestly think 4 in 5 people who claim to like football don't have a clue.

Sheeee-raaaah , we want Sheeee-raaaah

 

 

 

 

He was the best defensive striker I've ever seen on telly.

[jaythesouthernmag 0]

Didn't realise Stevie called this a while ago. Fair play mate, won't knock your ITKness again

 

Now can you make it go away?

[Monkeys Fist 42449]

Is it too soon for the Baileys on ice dahling....

Never

[Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1]

RE all this shite in the press about Hughton not making good player purchases: we've all seen what a good eye Pardew has for talent; Tevez and Mascherano on the bench, Mullins starts

[Christmas Tree 4725]

Skysports.com understands that Exeter's Paul Tisdale was one the names under consideration to succeed Chris Hughton at Newcastle United.

 

Newcastle parted company with Hughton earlier this week and Alan Pardew is in line to replace him at the St James' Park helm.

 

However, it is believed that Magpies chiefs were looking at other options before opting for their original choice of Pardew.

 

And skysports.com has learnt that one of those is the highly-regarded Tisdale - currently in charge at the other St James's Park.

 

Tisdale is regarded as one of the finest young managers in English football, having guided The Grecians from non-league football to League One.

 

A number of clubs have looked at the 37-year-old former Southampton midfielder and Swansea City failed with an approach earlier this year.

 

Now it is understood that Newcastle's hierarchy gave Tisdale serious consideration before deciding to go with their initial idea of appointing a manager with Premier League experience.