aimaad22 4156 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Hope the banners, along with the Cardiff match treatment, are out since the first minute against Hull. Sad state of affairs but it has come down to this now I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 It's totally ludicrous that it has come to this. It wouldn't happen anywhere else because he would have been sacked ages ago. And I'm not talking about at the bigger clubs looking to win trophy's, there surely isn't a club anywhere else in the country who would put up with the incompetance he's shown not to mention head butting an opposition player. There can't be another club in the world who have an owner who thinks this little about what's going on with the football at the club he owns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4757 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 really though, what other club in the PL wouldn't have sacked him after the headbutt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 really though, what other club in the PL wouldn't have sacked him after the headbutt? True Andrew that was the perfect excuse to get rid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Didn't even need an excuse but it was certainly a way to get rid of him without having to pay off his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44894 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Headpush please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 I'll be surprised if we see Ashley at SJP on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 http://www.themag.co.uk/video-replay/alan-pardew-speaking-southampton-shambles-video-interview/ "Taff for the fans taff day for the team and certainly a taff day for me" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4156 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 So Souness has sympathy for Pardew. Apparently we're "quick to show our frustration". I hope he realises his sympathy was one of the few things remaining that would make us hate Pardew's boot licking guts more than we already do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 I'll be surprised if we see Ashley at SJP on Saturday. I'll be surprised if Pardew sits in the dugout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 I'll be surprised if Pardew sits in the dugout. Certainly don't think he'll be stepping out of it much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Certainly don't think he'll be stepping out of it much. Yeah he might want to get one of those comfy seats at the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 He looked quite freaked at the end of the post match....Eyes were gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17274 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Pardew NOT totally to blame, allegedly.... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2757154/Newcastle-s-players-disgrace-says-Sky-pundit-Jamie-Carragher.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Arsene Wenger might dispute that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17274 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 2 things Carragher gets right, the players don't give a fuck, bit that comes from the very top rather than just Pardew on his own and now seems endemic at the club, and did we recruit in line with a club of our size with our fanbase?...hah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2207 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 You dont give a manager time if he's lost the dressing room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 No evidence whatsoever of him having lost the dressing room. We simply have a very very Shit team who are playing at that level. Shit defenders, Shit strikers, with bizarre players like Gouffran, Anita and sisokko etc sprinkled in. Sure let's upgrade Pardew but Sir Alex coulndt turn this sorry lot around. Avoiding relegation mainly relies on a big spend in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Pardew NOT totally to blame, allegedly.... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2757154/Newcastle-s-players-disgrace-says-Sky-pundit-Jamie-Carragher.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 He is right to an extent. But if you can't get your players motivated for as long a period as he has then he has to go, that's the most obvious thing in this situation. You do have to wonder whether it will be in the players' heads to essentially throw the game on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2207 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 No evidence whatsoever of him having lost the dressing room. We simply have a very very Shit team who are playing at that level. Shit defenders, Shit strikers, with bizarre players like Gouffran, Anita and sisokko etc sprinkled in. Sure let's upgrade Pardew but Sir Alex coulndt turn this sorry lot around. Avoiding relegation mainly relies on a big spend in January. The evidence is in their attitude. They couldn't give a fuck from the first whistle. Thats Carraghers point...its nothing to do with them being shit, most of them are full internationals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44894 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 No evidence whatsoever of him having lost the dressing room. We simply have a very very Shit team who are playing at that level. Shit defenders, Shit strikers, with bizarre players like Gouffran, Anita and sisokko etc sprinkled in. Sure let's upgrade Pardew but Sir Alex coulndt turn this sorry lot around. Avoiding relegation mainly relies on a big spend in January. Weren't you very recently proclaiming the quality of the squad and how we had nothing to worry about. Not to mention advocating the sacking of the manager when things were looking a lot rosier than they are presently. Do you realise how stupid you look constantly changing your views? You can accuse people of being a sheep, but at least they have some conviction and consistency in their opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17274 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 He is right to an extent. But if you can't get your players motivated for as long a period as he has then he has to go, that's the most obvious thing in this situation. You do have to wonder whether it will be in the players' heads to essentially throw the game on Saturday. They've looked finished as a motivated group of professionals since January. Pardew has admitted this. Half a dozen new faces have failed to produce any difference. If Ashley doesn't sack him in the next 10 days it'll cost him a lot more come January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Weren't you very recently proclaiming the quality of the squad and how we had nothing to worry about. Not to mention advocating the sacking of the manager when things were looking a lot rosier than they are presently. Do you realise how stupid you look constantly changing your views? You can accuse people of being a sheep, but at least they have some conviction and consistency in their opinions. You are right. I did ask for him to be sacked when it was obvious how bad he was AND while we still had a decent team for a new manager to work with. I still want a better manager. That view hasn't changed. But no new manager is going to make a great deal of difference and to keep saying "they're all internationals" is to kid yourself with false hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4757 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 They've looked finished as a motivated group of professionals since January. Pardew has admitted this. Half a dozen new faces have failed to produce any difference. If Ashley doesn't sack him in the next 10 days it'll cost him a lot more come January. Thats it really, we know Ashley isn't a football man but he knows his money, he must recognise that letting this go on is just going to cost him more and more, either by us going down or the team needing a massive bailout in January. Unless Pardew really has got him bamboozled with all his talk of science and headbutting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44894 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 You are right. I did ask for him to be sacked when it was obvious how bad he was AND while we still had a decent team for a new manager to work with. I still want a better manager. That view hasn't changed. But no new manager is going to make a great deal of difference and to keep saying "they're all internationals" is to kid yourself with false hope. It's ridiculous to take the position that nobody could do better with these players than a manager who you admit yourself is poor and needs replacing. These are professional footballers who would obviously improve as a unit if exposed to better coaching, tactics, organisation and motivation. You're talking as if we've assembled a team of fat blokes from down the pub who can't help but ship 4 goals every week. You're either being contrary or you're stupid. It's difficult to tell which at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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