Craig 6682 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 10 years ago this month we were all up in arms at the thought of Venables becoming the next manager after SBR. How many of us wish we had gone down that route in hindsight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4723 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Dyche, Pearson and Monk are unknown quantities at this level, but both Dyche and Pearson done well at championship level. Â Dyche particularly getting a club the size of burnley automatic promotion. Â Monk has already been mentioned, doing great work with Swansea so far, if that list is "poor managers" I dread to think where Pardew comes. Â Redknapp isn't a better manager either imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4711 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 When was the last time Bruce or Hughes got a team to 5th. Â Pardew is an odious man, but not as bad or responsible as the burn the witch brigade are making out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 When was the last time Bruce or Hughes got a team to 5th. Â Pardew is an odious man, but not as bad or responsible as the burn the witch brigade are making out. Â Last time Pardew did you wanted him sacked. Â Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausman 0 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 That's been doing the rounds for a while. Â I don't know much of anything about Galtier, anyone got insight? Â Â I know, maybe they are trying to rehash and old story, knowing that it's not going well for Pardew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10793 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 When was the last time Bruce or Hughes got a team to 5th. Â Pardew is an odious man, but not as bad or responsible as the burn the witch brigade are making out. You keep banging that drum, but he's finished lower than that more often. Would that suggest 5th is his level, or an anomaly? Â hint: it's not his level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4711 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 You keep banging that drum, but he's finished lower than that more often. Would that suggest 5th is his level, or an anomaly? Â hint: it's not his level. It's very simple. I am saying that despite the blokes personality, when he has been backed he has got results. Â And by backed we are talking bare minimum not an abundant squad. Â Selling Carroll and Cabaye half way through a season and not replacing them are situations most managers would struggle with. Â The facts are however that he's finished 5th against the odds and Had us in the same strong position last Christmas until Cabaye went. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 He'll be sacked when we lose at home to Hull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 It's very simple. I am saying that despite the blokes personality, when he has been backed he has got results. Â And by backed we are talking bare minimum not an abundant squad. Â Selling Carroll and Cabaye half way through a season and not replacing them are situations most managers would struggle with. Â The facts are however that he's finished 5th against the odds and Had us in the same strong position last Christmas until Cabaye went. Â A page ago you were saying he had us chasing champions league despite Cabaye flouncing. Â Now Cabaye was the entire difference between Champions League pre christmas and relegation form after. Â Was it the player or the manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4711 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 It's laughable really. We've all Sat there all summer waiting for Charnley and Carr to get a proven striker and CB in. But because they haven't it's time for Anti Pardew protests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30385 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 You keep banging that drum, but he's finished lower than that more often. Would that suggest 5th is his level, or an anomaly? Â hint: it's not his level. Â Â West Ham - 2005 - 9th West Ham - 2006 - 18th (after 17 games, sacked in Dec) Charlton - 2007 - 19th Newcastle - 2011 - 12th Newcastle - 2012 - 5th Newcastle - 2013 - 16th Newcastle - 2014 - 10th Average - 12th-13th CT wants us to get George Burley in. He took Ipswich to 5th place man! Or what about Mike Walker? We could be chasing third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 It's laughable really. We've all Sat there all summer waiting for Charnley and Carr to get a proven striker and CB in. But because they haven't it's time for Anti Pardew protests. Â It was time for anti Pardew protests before the window opened. Again, you missed the Cardiff game though, so you'll have forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4375 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) It's laughable really. We've all Sat there all summer waiting for Charnley and Carr to get a proven striker and CB in. But because they haven't it's time for Anti Pardew protests.The recruits dont matter to me - it's the fact we're just as shit as ever with no prospect of improvement in the short, medium or long term. The bloke is just a shit manager - I don't know why thats so hard to grasp. Edited September 4, 2014 by NJS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 When was the last time Hughes or Bruce had players anywhere near as talented as Pardew had in the team that finished 5th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34938 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 It's laughable really. We've all Sat there all summer waiting for Charnley and Carr to get a proven striker and CB in. But because they haven't it's time for Anti Pardew protests. Aye, because the anti-Pardew stuff is a new thing amongst the fans. Do you only open your mouth to change feet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2204 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 The recruits dont matter to me - it's the fact we're just as shit as ever with no prospect of improvement in the short, medium or long term. Â The bloke is just a shit manager - I don't know why thats so hard to grasp. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2204 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 It's laughable really. We've all Sat there all summer waiting for Charnley and Carr to get a proven striker and CB in. But because they haven't it's time for Anti Pardew protests. I think its more because the football is shit and has been for a long time, and the buck stops with Pardew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4711 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 The recruits dont matter to me - it's the fact we're just as shit as ever with no prospect of improvement in the short, medium or long term. Â The bloke is just a shit manager - I don't know why thats so hard to grasp. I'm not saying he's great, but whoever gets the job will do know better if not backed or continually has his best players sold half way through a campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4711 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 When was the last time Hughes or Bruce had players anywhere near as talented as Pardew had in the team that finished 5th? Ryan Taylor, Steven Taylor, overran...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4711 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 I think its more because the football is shit and has been for a long time, and the buck stops with Pardew If my job is to drive people to the airport and he issues me with a car missing a wheel, don't blame me for the bumpy ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 When was the last time Bruce or Hughes got a team to 5th. Â Pardew is an odious man, but not as bad or responsible as the burn the witch brigade are making out. Â Hughes finished 6th with Blackburn in 2006 and 7th in 2008. He's been more consistent with higher position than Pardew in the past, that's how he got the Man City job. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Pardew has said time and time again Ashley has given him great support so that argument doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10793 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Ryan Taylor, Steven Taylor, overran......Ben Arfa... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2204 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 If my job is to drive people to the airport and he issues me with a car missing a wheel, don't blame me for the bumpy ride. I also wouldnt expect you to have the car stuck in cruise control at 40 mph whilst you use the wrong pedals, drive in the wrong direction, and spend more time on the phone and looking at yourself in the mirror than looking at the road.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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