Happy Face 29 Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Bigi ffs One of the best young players in the league You think he has as much promise as Wilshere or Sterling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loonyTOON 10 Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 You think he has as much promise as Wilshere or Sterling? Just look at how he's performed when asked of. Now add in the fact he's 19 years old. He's a real gem for the future of this club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1260 Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 You think he has as much promise as Wilshere or Sterling? Nope. Could be a canny player though. He's been excellent in a number of games but it's been unfortunate that he's only had the chance to play when we've been really struggling. Put him into a team with mostly first choice players that's briming with confidence and I think he'll come on even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 You think he has as much promise as Wilshere or Sterling? All 3 play in completely different positions. Wilshere looks like a perma crock so it'll be interesting to see how he develops and Sterling is overhyped because he's played a few games for liverpool. He has a ridiculously long way to go still. Bigi is definitely one of the best young players in the league. Could be a mainstay in the side in the next few seasons if handled properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7167 Posted April 9, 2013 Author Share Posted April 9, 2013 You think he has as much promise as Wilshere or Sterling? Sterling, yes. Wilshere is being talked about as the best young player since Gazza almost 30 years ago and has 90 arsenal games and 8 England caps to his name, as well as being 2 years older. Good comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 He's hardly played for 2 years though, so all that promise was apparent when he was Bigi's age. Is Bigi not keen to play for England? If he's one of the best young players I thought he would. He's not getting into any Rwanda squads either, though he has said he's like to.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 99 Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 I dont mind Pardew in comparison to who we have had in recent years (thinking Sam, Souness, JFK mostly) but with what he has had at his disposal I do wonder about him at times and more importantly I can see the hierarchy thinking the same. In his defence, he wasnt backed in the summer and I have no doubt if we had brought the same players in sooner we'd be safe by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7167 Posted April 9, 2013 Author Share Posted April 9, 2013 He's hardly played for 2 years though, so all that promise was apparent when he was Bigi's age. Is Bigi not keen to play for England? If he's one of the best young players I thought he would. He's not getting into any Rwanda squads either, though he has said he's like to.. Is it really worth trying to convince yourself Bigirimana is a poor buy to win an argument? He was £1million and looks a bargain at the price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17641 Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Is it really worth trying to convince yourself Bigirimana is a poor buy to win an argument? He was £1million and looks a bargain at the price In what way?...he's had a couple of encouraging cameos, but its a bit like saying Fergie will be a world beater after a good run and cross v Stoke a couple of years ago..who said that again?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7167 Posted April 9, 2013 Author Share Posted April 9, 2013 http://www.toontastic.net/board/topic/33728-bigirimana/page__st__20__gopid__1188978#entry1188978 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 (edited) I dont mind Pardew in comparison to who we have had in recent years (thinking Sam, Souness, JFK mostly) but with what he has had at his disposal I do wonder about him at times and more importantly I can see the hierarchy thinking the same. In his defence, he wasnt backed in the summer and I have no doubt if we had brought the same players in sooner we'd be safe by now. These are the key points but you cant really make both at the same time and have them both be completely true. If he has had good players at his disposal then they would have been in the first 11 every week. In which case he didn't need backing in the summer. If he needed backing in the summer its because the first 11s he has put out have not had enough strength or quality, which means therefore he hasnt had great options at his disposal. Tooj seems to need a bit of guidance round this point too Edited April 9, 2013 by ChezGiven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5294 Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 (edited) I think bringing new players in over the summer offers a psychological lift to the players at the club, and I think Man City might be case in point. They just haven't been as good, even though they easily had the quality not to have to buy. I'd put it down to lack of competition/assuming they'd made it/etc. You could maybe argue something similar for our lot due to our relative over-achievement last year. I don't think Pardew is the greatest manager, but he's the first one in a long time I've been happy to just let get on with it, feeling reassured that he wants to win as badly as we do. I'm also pleased that the team seems much more motivated to have us avoid relegation - they seem to care about the club more than the previous relegation batch did, and perhaps more so than I've seen any of our players for some years now. I know it would all evaporate as soon as a better offer came in, but I can't help but think Pardew is at least partially responsible for ensuring that the club is somewhere that the players actually *want* to be. Edited April 9, 2013 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Di Canio has bettered him today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3957 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 (edited) Fuck off Pardew Edited April 14, 2013 by Kevin Carr's Gloves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Seven more years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonatine 11542 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Seven more years. Well, at least that long contract means we'll be well compensated when a bigger and better club poaches him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 England too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hostile_statue 0 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 A negative man who represents negative football. Just fuck off, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Can we have a change of the poll to reflect people's current opinion of Pardew? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 I want to know why those who have faith in Pardew actually do so? What is it about him do you believe that he is the man to take this club forward with the current squad that we have got? I will admit he is a good man manager as the players seem to like him but when it comes to tactics - can you please tell me what it is about him that you think makes him the right man to take us forward? I don't see any sort of footballing philosophy from him that makes me believe that he is. I'm not accepting stability as an answer either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4222 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 I've been behind him for the sake of stability mostly, and that we cant hope to attract a better manager realisitcally. However there are some shocking weakness in our side that he has completely failed to address. Set pieces, corners, ball retention, no plan of attack going foward. Game after game after game with no signs of improvement. Something is definitely wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7167 Posted April 14, 2013 Author Share Posted April 14, 2013 I want to know why those who have faith in Pardew actually do so? What is it about him do you believe that he is the man to take this club forward with the current squad that we have got? I will admit he is a good man manager as the players seem to like him but when it comes to tactics - can you please tell me what it is about him that you think makes him the right man to take us forward? I don't see any sort of footballing philosophy from him that makes me believe that he is. I'm not accepting stability as an answer either. Cos I've seen the way we played under the likes of Kinnear and Allardyce. People have short memories, we outplayed Benfica for the best part of 180 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronic the Drug Wasp 6 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 We did not outplay Benfica for the best part of 180 minutes. Sort your head out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Cos I've seen the way we played under the likes of Kinnear and Allardyce. People have short memories, we outplayed Benfica for the best part of 180 minutes. Did we fuck. You also haven't said what he's actually good at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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