manc-mag 1 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Keep shifting between numb to stupified to livid and back again. What an absolute fucking calamitous shit sandwich of a situation. Aye am between numb and uncontrollably laughing at what an absolute joke club I've invested large amounts of my love, tears, time and effort over since I was 6 years of age. Sick joke of a club. When you ask yourself the question, what more could he possibly have done given the hand he's been dealt, (without straying into the realms of outright fantasy) you do honestly just have to laugh. It fucking defies any rational thought. Turned round a team utterly at odds with itself and indifferent to it's employer and got us promoted Got rid of cripplingly high cost wasters (some natural wastage I grant you) Made good PL additions for modest outlay Reversed the (justified) media derision of the club Had the players playing for him A perfectly realistic prospect of staying up in our first season back Some wins which hinted at a possibly better future What else, realistically was he supposed to be doing at this stage of the season? What the FUCK else?! Not based on yesterday's performance. Perhaps if Gutierrez put as much effort into tackling as twittering this wouldn't have happened. Or ameobi looked like he gave a fuck with the captains' armband as well. Ameobi give a fuck? Did you not read what I wrote? I said without getting into fantasy ffs. Do you think Hughton's heart was warmed every time he had to put Shola's name down on the teamsheet? I bet he could have given you twenty names he'd rather have had if he only had a paltry couple million quid to spend to replace him. Shola's a career waste of time, he's proved it over a decade. Even then though Hughton still managed the minor miracle of making him look at least slightly interested in more games, as a percentage of his appearances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizza 105 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Pardew or Venables. Or both. Venables would probably get on quite well with the cockney wanker running the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4672 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 There's definitely been something going on behind the scenes, as Hughton didn't want Pedro to be the reserve manager. It wouldn't surprise me as well, especially the way Pedro was so quick to lick Ashley's arse after the whole Keegan fiasco. Agreed. Someone might want to point out to them not to go peddling the 'wanting to bring in a more experienced manager' tripe if they put Pedro even in temporary charge. Unless they have that 'more experienced manager' lined up already then they're talking shit. And if that 'more experienced manager' does turn out to be Pardew they can eat the shit that they've talked. Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 16995 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 With the benefit of hindsight, he was going around the time of the mackems game, twatting them bought him a months grace. For saving Ashley's investment last season with his ability to get some questionable characters/egos in the changing room all moving in the same direction this is the thanks he's got. He was probably a dead man walking after the Ipswich game last season tbh, but what sort of fuckin wanker Ashley thought he would get to do a better job this season given our owner's brand of stewardship is anyone's guess. Ashley lives or dies by this decision, if we go down again the protests after the Keegan debacle will look like a smooth ride. Cunt of the first order. Maybe Ashleys thinks we'll be placated if he appoints Pedro full time. Anoither fuckin huge misjudgement/gamble and compleltely contrary to the weasel worded statement that accompanied Chris's dismissal. So it may well be Pardew. God fuckin help us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2930 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 TheBig_Sam Sent over a fax to Mike Ashley, with the words "no fucking chance I'm coming back" written in my own shit. I can't have him getting ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 TheBig_Sam Would have worked better if I was just sending a letter, though. There's shit all over the fax machine now. I'll blame it on Samba again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2930 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Chris Hughton's the villain? Manager exit leaves blame at Mike Ashley's door You've been promoted from the Football League, destroying everything in your path and going up with 102 points in the process. You beat Aston Villa 6-0 in one of your first home games back in the Premier League, and go on to obliterate your hated rivals Sunderland 5-1 at St. James' Park. You beat Arsenal at the Emirates, and draw 1-1 against defending champions Chelsea. You're 11th in the table. You lose 3-1 away at West Brom, putting out a side that's missing upto six first team players through injury and suspension. What's your next move? If your answer is 'sack the man that's done all the above and more', congratulations, you're Mike Ashley. The Newcastle United circus has once again started up its engine and is back on the road today as the rotund, trigger-happy owner of the club put Chris Hughton out to managerial pasture despite a period of stability and closure, the likes of which have not been seen at the club for over a decade. Ashley's latest masterstroke comes after a long line of actions that have seen the majority of Newcastle fans turn on the club. Putting the club up for sale multiple times only to pull it off the market, going back on his word with Kevin Keegan, and Keegan's subsequent resignation, and the 'Cockney Mafia' farce - the Londoner, and Sports Direct owner, has done it all on Tyneside, and none of it has been popular. So it's rather ironic that the most popular decision of Ashley's tenure so far was to appoint Hughton as manager. The former Tottenham defender had been caretaker at the club before, but when United plunged into the Championship at the end of the 2008/09 season under Alan Shearer's stewardship, Hughton was the man that Ashley entrusted with the task of gaining promotion on a full-time basis. The club was in disarray, but somehow the quiet man from London steadied the ship. Gone were the egos, the player power and the lack of desire that had sent wage costs spiralling and performances plummeting. Replacing it was a tight-knit unit of players that were hungry for success - the siege mentality had disappeared. Ashley took the club off the market, and the good times returned to St. James' Park. Newcastle had no peers, romping to the league title. Chants of 'there's only one Chris Hughton' rolled down from the Gallowgate end. That feel-good factor carried on throughout pre-season and to the beginning of the current campaign. Although not entrusted with a war chest as with previous managers, Hughton was astute in the transfer market, bringing in Dan Gosling and Sol Campbell on free transfers, as well as the so-far impressive Cheik Tiote, James Perch and Hatem Ben Arfa, on loan from Marseille. Despite the inconsistencies in Newcastle's results, they produced a number of exceptional results, most notably those mentioned against Arsenal, Aston Villa and Chelsea. There were defeats along the way against Wolves, Stoke City and Blackpool, but the general consensus was that Hughton was safe as United's manager. After all, if anything, weren't Newcastle overachieving this season? Mid-table on their first season back in the Premier League? Hughton a fan favourite? None of this mattered to the Newcastle board. They swept aside a feckless Sunderland at home in a dominant display not seen on Tyneside since, arguably, the days of Keegan's entertainers. But behind the scenes, something was amiss. There were daily rumblings over Hughton's future at the club. Despite the 5-1 win over Sunderland, and his good work in general at the club Hughton still hadn't been offered a new contract. Ever the gentleman, Hughton was diplomatic with the media, knowing full well he had no say over what Mike Ashley had planned for him. Concentrating on the task at hand was the name of the game. Nothing is ever simple at St. James' Park, as fans of the club will testify. They've seen heroes come and heroes go, legends worshipped and legends scorned, they've had the ups and the downs, but the crushing inevitability at the end of it all is that controversy will never leave Newcastle United. Chris Hughton's sacking has merely destroyed the smoke and mirrors operation that Mike Ashley had perpetrated around the walls of SJP. There was never, realistically, going to be any chance of normaility at Newcastle United. The two don't mix. Ashley has proved before that he's merely a businessman in a world becoming more and more dominated by greed and necessity. Unfortunately, sacking Chris Hughton was neither necessary nor, as yet, justified. Ashley has already lost hundreds of millions rebuilding the finances of the club. For his investment, he's seen the club slip out of, and then return to, the Premier League. In his mind, it's no return at all. Ashley can't see the progress the club has made. He's no football fan. A club shop scarf is merely a token gesture to the rabid supporters that fill his coffers every week. This latest episode in the United soap opera is a timely reminder to everyone that leopards don't change their spots. I was at the West Brom game on Sunday, and towards Mike Ashley, there was merely apathy. A rather lousy rendition of 'get out of our club' from a few beered up Mags in the concourse before the game. Nothing serious. Ashley had slipped out of most supporters minds, save for those who were wondering how much, if any, money Chris Hughton would get to spend on players in January. Now, the reality is that Mike Ashley is once again Public Enemy Number 1 in the eyes of Toon supporters. The public outcry on Tyneside has been almost as deafening as the expected protests at the Liverpool game on Saturday. Ex-players, fans, journalists, even supporters of other teams have come out in support of Hughton. Not Newcastle United. That's key. Newcastle were slowly rebuilding their affinity with the English public. After the general hysterics of their relegation, people were beginning to get back on United's side. People want to see them do well. Not anymore. Not with Mike Ashley in charge. With Hughton, and coach Paul Barron, out the door, where next for United? The club have released a statement - they want Premiership experience. Peter Beardsley is the short term solution, stepping into the breach that Hughton himself did so well in time and time again. With Steve Stone by his side, Beardsley will be expected to steady the ship that is slowly rocking itself towards the edge of disaster once more. But with the January transfer window fast approaching, Newcastle need someone who can act confidently, calmly, and effectively. Martin O'Neill? Alan Pardew? Alan Curbishley? Those are the three names at the top of the betting list as it stands. But will O'Neill really want to work alongside a chairman who has no idea what he's doing? And do Curbishley or Pardew have the ability United need? They'd certainly be cheap. That's appealing to Mike Ashley. Once again, the future at St. James' Park is uncertain. United fans had become used to it. The past year looks like it may only have been a break from the norm. Now, the Magpies return to what they've grown to accept. Roll up roll up, folks. The black and white circus is back in town. http://soccer-portal.org/cat/news/4857-chr...ike-ashley.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4672 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Steve Fucking Wraith Does this cunt just fucking loiter outside of St. James. I cant stand the baldy little bastard on Itv one minute and the beeb the next. Hoever I got the impression that somethings going on behind the scenes with regard to players and Hughton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Besty 4 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 TheBig_Sam Would have worked better if I was just sending a letter, though. There's shit all over the fax machine now. I'll blame it on Samba again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko 0 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 just got 5 live on now, apparently they're talking to Calderwood about what it's like to work under Ashley, they're also speaking to someone who spoke to Chris this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...ted/9262152.stm Calderwood's take on things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...ted/9262152.stm Calderwood's take on things. Regime make it impossible with shifting goalpoasts. quelle surprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Has Nolan really been injured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin 1 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Has Nolan really been injured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Hearing murmurs of Moyes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Hearing murmurs of Moyes... Someone mentioned Cruyff in the pub before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonatine 11280 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Hearing murmurs of Moyes... Someone mentioned Cruyff in the pub before. More likely to get this years winner from Crufts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Hearing murmurs of Moyes... Always reminds me of Sigmund Spassky from the World Stare-Out Championships Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Steve Fucking Wraith Does this cunt just fucking loiter outside of St. James. I cant stand the baldy little bastard on Itv one minute and the beeb the next. Hoever I got the impression that somethings going on behind the scenes with regard to players and Hughton Just heard him on Radio 5. Not sure why he thinks he speaks for the fans like. Just a rent-a-gob tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2204 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Just got this news. Speechless....I really can't believe it, absolutely ridiculous decision. I can only assume they fell out over transfer funds......it really makes no sense if this has been instigated by the club. Anybody half decent won't touch the club with a shitty stick, and rightly so. Ashley and LLambias are utterly clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 172 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Colin Calderwood on SSN: "you look for integrity and honesty behind the scenes and if that's not there it’s a ludicirous situation." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentAxeman 169 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Hearing murmurs of Moyes... from where Tom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Has Nolan really been injured? Been struggling with an injury for a while so I don't think there's owt sinister about his being out the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44151 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Hearing murmurs of Moyes... Why would any decent manager join a club that would do something like this to a bloke like Hughton? In particular, why would they leave a steady job where they have a squad that's better than ours. We're looking at out-of-work, malleable managers who won't rock the boat come the transfer window. We're not looking at anyone who is any good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Hearing murmurs of Moyes... from where Tom? Just word going about that's all but apparently David Craig has dismissed the early favourites so hopefully that means Pardew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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