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Ian Murtagh in The Star.

 

A club source said last night: "They have talked to two or three people, laying out the terms and conditions and then asking, 'Are you brave enough to take it on?'

 

"We will find out which one is brave enough to do that on Thursday or Friday. Mike wants the club run to Ashley rules, not football rules. That means no signing-on fee and no big compensation clauses in their contracts. There can be no rewards for failure."

 

Hughton was forced to go into the current campaign with basically the same squad which clinched promotion last season and his successor cannot expect to be bankrolled either.

 

The source added: "The new manager will not be handed a treasure trove of cash. Mike wants an experienced manager at one of the biggest clubs in the land, but he wants one on his terms and those terms are simple.

 

"Every penny has to be spent wisely and the club must continue to head in the right direction towards the top end of the Premier League table.The bottom line is that Mike wants value for money and just as in his businesses, he expects to get it."

 

On Jol's job prospects, he said: "Martin has put himself in a good position, but he would have to accept these terms and conditions and it would not be a way he has worked before."

 

You never know what to believe anymore but suffice to say if any of that is true, it doesn't amount to a plan at all. It's just a case of sack someone one day and see who else is interested the next.

 

is this "planning" bollocks rearing its ugly head again ?

 

Simple fact is, you need to pay the going rate and try to get the right guy. The "timing" and "planning" are completely irrelevant if you have the right person and the right backing.

 

I'm not surprised in the slightest that people are turning down Mike Ashley and his derisory offers, when his ambitions for the football club are put to them.

 

I realise the accountants will be pleased though.

 

On the other hand, if good terms are offered to a half decent manager, like Jol, it reinforces a possibility that the club may be about to be sold. In my opinion.

 

 

 

 

 

Yes it's generally good to plan these things. Unless you're in absolute dire straights and a change is forced upon you by circumstances. Which wasn't the case here. Not a radical statement by any means and certainly far from bollocks as you insist.

 

Please can you attend to my question in the other thread by the way?

 

I'm only just in, and catching up. Show me what you refer to, I might respond tomorrow.

 

I don't agree with "planning". Football is reactionary and circumstances can and do change in a matter of weeks, as you say. Its a results dominated business where only a handful of clubs are deemed to be "successful". Everything is great if you win 3 games and everything is the opposite if you lose 3 games. You have just witnessed such a scenario at NUFC and it happens everywhere, so I don't see why you can possibly disagree.

 

If you seriously agree that "planning" leads to automatic success, then we will see how Ashleys "plan" goes. As you appear to believe such "plans" automatically succeed because they are "plans", you should be supporting this sacking and looking forward to a successor who is in time for the transfer window which is now on the horizon.

 

Wow. You are stupid beyond belief.

 

Do you really think that successful clubs haven't followed a "plan" to get them there. "I don't agree with planning". I know you were pissed when you wrote that (not that that makes a difference), but it ranks up there with the stupidest things you've ever said on here, and it's got some fucking competition.

 

As Sammy points out, your final paragraph is just classic Leazes. Just fucking make something up and attribute it to the person you're arguing with. As supported by evidence, you will spend the next 5 years bringing this up every time you get into an argument with him (or anyone else, they all think the same these people anyway eh?), and it is a complete figment of your own imagination and something that NOBODY on here has said.

 

How can you spend 56 years on the planet and be this immature and intellectually stunted?

 

how many years are we into Ashleys "plan" again ?

 

Stupid beyond belief = an accountant encouraging the club to back Souness with millions, and millions, and more millions and more millions, and more millions...to "build" his team. Was that your "plan"

 

What a fuckwit you are man. Every football club has a "plan" you stupid cunt.

 

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Ian Murtagh in The Star.

 

A club source said last night: "They have talked to two or three people, laying out the terms and conditions and then asking, 'Are you brave enough to take it on?'

 

"We will find out which one is brave enough to do that on Thursday or Friday. Mike wants the club run to Ashley rules, not football rules. That means no signing-on fee and no big compensation clauses in their contracts. There can be no rewards for failure."

 

Hughton was forced to go into the current campaign with basically the same squad which clinched promotion last season and his successor cannot expect to be bankrolled either.

 

The source added: "The new manager will not be handed a treasure trove of cash. Mike wants an experienced manager at one of the biggest clubs in the land, but he wants one on his terms and those terms are simple.

 

"Every penny has to be spent wisely and the club must continue to head in the right direction towards the top end of the Premier League table.The bottom line is that Mike wants value for money and just as in his businesses, he expects to get it."

 

On Jol's job prospects, he said: "Martin has put himself in a good position, but he would have to accept these terms and conditions and it would not be a way he has worked before."

 

You never know what to believe anymore but suffice to say if any of that is true, it doesn't amount to a plan at all. It's just a case of sack someone one day and see who else is interested the next.

 

is this "planning" bollocks rearing its ugly head again ?

 

Simple fact is, you need to pay the going rate and try to get the right guy. The "timing" and "planning" are completely irrelevant if you have the right person and the right backing.

 

I'm not surprised in the slightest that people are turning down Mike Ashley and his derisory offers, when his ambitions for the football club are put to them.

 

I realise the accountants will be pleased though.

 

On the other hand, if good terms are offered to a half decent manager, like Jol, it reinforces a possibility that the club may be about to be sold. In my opinion.

 

 

 

 

 

Yes it's generally good to plan these things. Unless you're in absolute dire straights and a change is forced upon you by circumstances. Which wasn't the case here. Not a radical statement by any means and certainly far from bollocks as you insist.

 

Please can you attend to my question in the other thread by the way?

 

I'm only just in, and catching up. Show me what you refer to, I might respond tomorrow.

 

I don't agree with "planning". Football is reactionary and circumstances can and do change in a matter of weeks, as you say. Its a results dominated business where only a handful of clubs are deemed to be "successful". Everything is great if you win 3 games and everything is the opposite if you lose 3 games. You have just witnessed such a scenario at NUFC and it happens everywhere, so I don't see why you can possibly disagree.

 

If you seriously agree that "planning" leads to automatic success, then we will see how Ashleys "plan" goes. As you appear to believe such "plans" automatically succeed because they are "plans", you should be supporting this sacking and looking forward to a successor who is in time for the transfer window which is now on the horizon.

 

Wow. You are stupid beyond belief.

 

Do you really think that successful clubs haven't followed a "plan" to get them there. "I don't agree with planning". I know you were pissed when you wrote that (not that that makes a difference), but it ranks up there with the stupidest things you've ever said on here, and it's got some fucking competition.

 

As Sammy points out, your final paragraph is just classic Leazes. Just fucking make something up and attribute it to the person you're arguing with. As supported by evidence, you will spend the next 5 years bringing this up every time you get into an argument with him (or anyone else, they all think the same these people anyway eh?), and it is a complete figment of your own imagination and something that NOBODY on here has said.

 

How can you spend 56 years on the planet and be this immature and intellectually stunted?

 

how many years are we into Ashleys "plan" again ?

 

Stupid beyond belief = an accountant encouraging the club to back Souness with millions, and millions, and more millions and more millions, and more millions...to "build" his team. Was that your "plan"

 

What a fuckwit you are man.

 

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So the remedy for a failed plan is to quit planning things?

 

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How do you do it Leazes? You are 56 and you can't understand the simplest of points. This life experience, have you spent it watching jelly wobble or something?

 

 

 

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The fucking image.

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Listened to radio Newcastle whilst cooking tea- John Carver came on, fuming. Could barely contain his contempt for the decision.

 

Just listened to it...

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...ted/9262221.stm

 

Good point at the end. It's been discussed how stupid the slurs are about hughton taking on players other people scouted. Another ridiculous one is that he involved the team in decisions...Bobby Robson would listen to players thoughts before making the ultimate decision. It's tossers like Souness with no man management skills whatsoever who take an autocratic approach and piss players off.

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Listened to radio Newcastle whilst cooking tea- John Carver came on, fuming. Could barely contain his contempt for the decision.

 

Just listened to it...

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...ted/9262221.stm

 

Good point at the end. It's been discussed how stupid the slurs are about hughton taking on players other people scouted. Another ridiculous one is that he involved the team in decisions...Bobby Robson would listen to players thoughts before making the ultimate decision. It's tossers like Souness with no man management skills whatsoever who take an autocratic approach and piss players off.

You're spot on. I actually mentioned the other day that I'd heard that Graham Carr identified Ben Arfa and Tiote but, like Stevie says, that's what scouts are supposed to do.

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Whoever does get Hughton will have a potentially excellent manager on their hands. I can see Ipswich sniffing about if Keane walks away/gets the bullet.

 

He did need to develop by all accounts, I reckon we would have seen whether he was up to it after a full season. Now we'll never know ;)

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Whoever does get Hughton will have a potentially excellent manager on their hands. I can see Ipswich sniffing about if Keane walks away/gets the bullet.

 

He did need to develop by all accounts, I reckon we would have seen whether he was up to it after a full season. Now we'll never know ;)

 

I wonder if he'll be such a 'nice guy' in his next job, accepting a pittance for doing the work of 3 men and still saying nothing derogatory about his boss.

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