Hughton Sacked

[shackbleep 0]

Pardew - Wilkins partnership now being touted by Caulkin and Scott Wilson. JFWTBH.

[Kitman 2207]

5 years of Pardew? No thanks!

[Park Life 71]

There might be a twist in this.

[Billy Castell 0]

Just looked at the odds and you have my sympathies. Pardew is odds on as I type, with Wilkins closing in at 10/1,and Hoddle coming in from nowhere to 14/1. Other odds you might be interested in are Souness 20/1, Strachan and Tango Brown at 25/1, JFK at 33/1 and Keegan at 40/1.

Edited December 8, 2010 by Billy Castell

[Tom 14011]

Hoddle is man Stevie likes so it might just be Stevie laying his dollar down

[Besty 4]

Just looked at the odds and you have my sympathies. Pardew is odds on as I type, with Wilkins closing in at 10/1,and Hoddle coming in from nowhere to 14/1. Other odds you might be interested in are Souness 20/1, Strachan and Tango Brown at 25/1, JFK at 33/1 and Keegan at 40/1.

 

What a list!

[Monkeys Fist 42459]

I'm fucking sick to death of this already.

Whoever the fuck it is, get them in quick and get it over with.

 

5 year contract? Are they fucking mad?

[Tom 14011]

Even a 5 year contract for Hughton would have been disagreeable at best!

 

For fucks sake we deserve better than these utterly retarded cunts can give us.

 

Piss off back to selling shite trainers you fat ugly cunt!

[Kitman 2207]

It doesn't make sense. They'll have to pay up 4 and a half years as compo to Pardew when they sack him...

[Tom 14011]

Depends how he does at the casino and besides he'll probably spend it all on cans of lager.

[ewerk 30633]

So Simon Bird knows the length of the contract but not who the appointment will be? Sounds like shit to me. Ashley will not put himself in the position where he may have to pay out the same sort of compo that he did to Allardyce.

[Asprilla 96]

Even a 5 year contract for Hughton would have been disagreeable at best!

I'd have been well happy with that....

[ChezGiven 0]

Ian Murtagh in The Star.

 

A club source said last night: “They have talked to two or three people, laying out the terms and conditions and then asking, ‘Are you brave enough to take it on?’

 

“We will find out which one is brave enough to do that on Thursday or Friday. Mike wants the club run to Ashley rules, not football rules. That means no signing-on fee and no big compensation clauses in their contracts. There can be no rewards for failure.”

 

Hughton was forced to go into the current campaign with basically the same squad which clinched promotion last season and his successor cannot expect to be bankrolled either.

 

The source added: “The new manager will not be handed a treasure trove of cash. Mike wants an experienced manager at one of the biggest clubs in the land, but he wants one on his terms and those terms are simple.

 

“Every penny has to be spent wisely and the club must continue to head in the right direction towards the top end of the Premier League table.The bottom line is that Mike wants value for money and just as in his businesses, he expects to get it.”

 

On Jol’s job prospects, he said: “Martin has put himself in a good position, but he would have to accept these terms and conditions and it would not be a way he has worked before.”

[shackbleep 0]

No football manager should be on any more than a 2 year deal IMO. I remember when we got Keegan to sign that 10 year deal back in the mid 90s. Madness.

[ChezGiven 0]

The Express

 

A high-ranking source at the club said: “Two or three experienced people in football have been sounded out and told those are the terms and conditions.

 

“All have been told the same thing; they will be rewarded for results and results only. There will be no £1.5million signing-on fee and no compensation clauses in their contract. The bottom line is Mike Ashley wants value for money and just as in his businesses, he expects to get it. The new manager will not be handed a treasure trove of cash to spend and nor will he be handed a contract which means he can be rewarded for failure.

 

“He will be handsomely rewarded if he brings success to Newcastle United and will not be rewarded if he fails. Mike Ashley wants an experienced manager at one of the biggest clubs in the land. But he wants a manager on his terms and those terms are simple; every penny has to be spent wisely and the club must continue to head in the right direction towards the top end of the Premier League table.

 

“The club will be run along the same lines that Mike pays his top executives at Sports Direct – a very good basic wage but big bonuses for results.

 

“The new manager will be expected to buy into the new vision. You get paid by results, developing the club and moving it forward.

 

“The old guard in football are saying we have never done this before. Ashley might end up with egg all over his face but in five years’ time the cynics might be thinking otherwise. I don’t think any club in England would be run like this but this is a businessman running a football club as a business. Whether that is right or wrong only time will tell.”

[Monkeys Fist 42459]

Ian Murtagh in The Star.

 

A club source said last night: “They have talked to two or three people, laying out the terms and conditions and then asking, ‘Are you brave enough to take it on?’

 

“We will find out which one is brave enough to do that on Thursday or Friday. Mike wants the club run to Ashley rules, not football rules. That means no signing-on fee and no big compensation clauses in their contracts. There can be no rewards for failure.”

 

Hughton was forced to go into the current campaign with basically the same squad which clinched promotion last season and his successor cannot expect to be bankrolled either.

 

The source added: “The new manager will not be handed a treasure trove of cash. Mike wants an experienced manager at one of the biggest clubs in the land, but he wants one on his terms and those terms are simple.

 

“Every penny has to be spent wisely and the club must continue to head in the right direction towards the top end of the Premier League table.The bottom line is that Mike wants value for money and just as in his businesses, he expects to get it.”

 

On Jol’s job prospects, he said: “Martin has put himself in a good position, but he would have to accept these terms and conditions and it would not be a way he has worked before.”

JFK it is then

[manc-mag 1]

Ian Murtagh in The Star.

 

A club source said last night: "They have talked to two or three people, laying out the terms and conditions and then asking, 'Are you brave enough to take it on?'

 

"We will find out which one is brave enough to do that on Thursday or Friday. Mike wants the club run to Ashley rules, not football rules. That means no signing-on fee and no big compensation clauses in their contracts. There can be no rewards for failure."

 

Hughton was forced to go into the current campaign with basically the same squad which clinched promotion last season and his successor cannot expect to be bankrolled either.

 

The source added: "The new manager will not be handed a treasure trove of cash. Mike wants an experienced manager at one of the biggest clubs in the land, but he wants one on his terms and those terms are simple.

 

"Every penny has to be spent wisely and the club must continue to head in the right direction towards the top end of the Premier League table.The bottom line is that Mike wants value for money and just as in his businesses, he expects to get it."

 

On Jol's job prospects, he said: "Martin has put himself in a good position, but he would have to accept these terms and conditions and it would not be a way he has worked before."

 

You never know what to believe anymore but suffice to say if any of that is true, it doesn't amount to a plan at all. It's just a case of sack someone one day and see who else is interested the next.

[ChezGiven 0]

Star and Express are the same company so its one brief from the source. On the question of finding out who is brave enough on friday, what happens when the answer is 'none of them are that stupid'?

Edited December 8, 2010 by ChezGiven

[Monkeys Fist 42459]

Star and Express are the same company to its one brief from the source. On the question of finding out who is brave enough on friday, what happens when the answer is 'none of them are that stupid'?

See my post above…

[ChezGiven 0]

Ian Murtagh in The Star.

 

A club source said last night: "They have talked to two or three people, laying out the terms and conditions and then asking, 'Are you brave enough to take it on?'

 

"We will find out which one is brave enough to do that on Thursday or Friday. Mike wants the club run to Ashley rules, not football rules. That means no signing-on fee and no big compensation clauses in their contracts. There can be no rewards for failure."

 

Hughton was forced to go into the current campaign with basically the same squad which clinched promotion last season and his successor cannot expect to be bankrolled either.

 

The source added: "The new manager will not be handed a treasure trove of cash. Mike wants an experienced manager at one of the biggest clubs in the land, but he wants one on his terms and those terms are simple.

 

"Every penny has to be spent wisely and the club must continue to head in the right direction towards the top end of the Premier League table.The bottom line is that Mike wants value for money and just as in his businesses, he expects to get it."

 

On Jol's job prospects, he said: "Martin has put himself in a good position, but he would have to accept these terms and conditions and it would not be a way he has worked before."

 

You never know what to believe anymore but suffice to say if any of that is true, it doesn't amount to a plan at all. It's just a case of sack someone one day and see who else is interested the next.

 

During the Sports Direct 'Blue-sky' weekend retreat. 'I've had a great idea, why dont we rip the rulebook up on manager's contracts and do something no one has ever done before?'

 

Except sacking a perfectly good manager and being a total arse to the person you next give the job to has been done before.

[manc-mag 1]

As an aside I don't know why it keeps banging on about compensation clauses in a fixed term contract. You don't need a fucking compensation clause if you're going to end up getting sacked before the contract is expired anyway, you're entitled to the remainder as of right.

[ChezGiven 0]

More from Hickman in The Express

 

MARTIN JOL turned down the Newcastle job four years ago and looks set to do so again having seen Mike Ashley’s bizarre financial blueprint.

Ashley will offer Chris Hughton’s successor a results-based contract – and next to nothing to spend.

It is an offer Jol will almost certainly decline, especially if Hamburg offer him a return to football in Germany following his resignation from Ajax on Monday.

With Ashley offering such meagre financial incentives, Alan Pardew, Glenn Hoddle and Alan Curbishley are in the frame as all three are desperate to make a return to management.

[manc-mag 1]

More from Hickman in The Express

 

MARTIN JOL turned down the Newcastle job four years ago and looks set to do so again having seen Mike Ashley's bizarre financial blueprint.

Ashley will offer Chris Hughton's successor a results-based contract – and next to nothing to spend.

It is an offer Jol will almost certainly decline, especially if Hamburg offer him a return to football in Germany following his resignation from Ajax on Monday.

With Ashley offering such meagre financial incentives, Alan Pardew, Glenn Hoddle and Alan Curbishley are in the frame as all three are desperate to make a return to management.

 

Again you wait and see I suppose (and you wonder if the list of 'interviewees' will ever be publicised) but you can already see the spin in the event it's not a top name that gets it. Ie we approached (insert top name) but they weren't 'brave enough to take it on'.

[LeazesMag 0]

Ian Murtagh in The Star.

 

A club source said last night: "They have talked to two or three people, laying out the terms and conditions and then asking, 'Are you brave enough to take it on?'

 

"We will find out which one is brave enough to do that on Thursday or Friday. Mike wants the club run to Ashley rules, not football rules. That means no signing-on fee and no big compensation clauses in their contracts. There can be no rewards for failure."

 

Hughton was forced to go into the current campaign with basically the same squad which clinched promotion last season and his successor cannot expect to be bankrolled either.

 

The source added: "The new manager will not be handed a treasure trove of cash. Mike wants an experienced manager at one of the biggest clubs in the land, but he wants one on his terms and those terms are simple.

 

"Every penny has to be spent wisely and the club must continue to head in the right direction towards the top end of the Premier League table.The bottom line is that Mike wants value for money and just as in his businesses, he expects to get it."

 

On Jol's job prospects, he said: "Martin has put himself in a good position, but he would have to accept these terms and conditions and it would not be a way he has worked before."

 

You never know what to believe anymore but suffice to say if any of that is true, it doesn't amount to a plan at all. It's just a case of sack someone one day and see who else is interested the next.

 

is this "planning" bollocks rearing its ugly head again ?

 

Simple fact is, you need to pay the going rate and try to get the right guy. The "timing" and "planning" are completely irrelevant if you have the right person and the right backing.

 

I'm not surprised in the slightest that people are turning down Mike Ashley and his derisory offers, when his ambitions for the football club are put to them.

 

I realise the accountants will be pleased though.

 

On the other hand, if good terms are offered to a half decent manager, like Jol, it reinforces a possibility that the club may be about to be sold. In my opinion.

[manc-mag 1]

Ian Murtagh in The Star.

 

A club source said last night: "They have talked to two or three people, laying out the terms and conditions and then asking, 'Are you brave enough to take it on?'

 

"We will find out which one is brave enough to do that on Thursday or Friday. Mike wants the club run to Ashley rules, not football rules. That means no signing-on fee and no big compensation clauses in their contracts. There can be no rewards for failure."

 

Hughton was forced to go into the current campaign with basically the same squad which clinched promotion last season and his successor cannot expect to be bankrolled either.

 

The source added: "The new manager will not be handed a treasure trove of cash. Mike wants an experienced manager at one of the biggest clubs in the land, but he wants one on his terms and those terms are simple.

 

"Every penny has to be spent wisely and the club must continue to head in the right direction towards the top end of the Premier League table.The bottom line is that Mike wants value for money and just as in his businesses, he expects to get it."

 

On Jol's job prospects, he said: "Martin has put himself in a good position, but he would have to accept these terms and conditions and it would not be a way he has worked before."

 

You never know what to believe anymore but suffice to say if any of that is true, it doesn't amount to a plan at all. It's just a case of sack someone one day and see who else is interested the next.

 

is this "planning" bollocks rearing its ugly head again ?

 

Simple fact is, you need to pay the going rate and try to get the right guy. The "timing" and "planning" are completely irrelevant if you have the right person and the right backing.

 

I'm not surprised in the slightest that people are turning down Mike Ashley and his derisory offers, when his ambitions for the football club are put to them.

 

I realise the accountants will be pleased though.

 

On the other hand, if good terms are offered to a half decent manager, like Jol, it reinforces a possibility that the club may be about to be sold. In my opinion.

 

 

 

 

 

Yes it's generally good to plan these things. Unless you're in absolute dire straights and a change is forced upon you by circumstances. Which wasn't the case here. Not a radical statement by any means and certainly far from bollocks as you insist.

 

Please can you attend to my question in the other thread by the way?