Scottish Mag 3 Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 Graeme Souness insists Kieron Dyer's return to full training tomorrow will mark the end of his fitness nightmare. The Newcastle boss believes Dyer has finally conquered the injury and illness problems which have dogged him in recent years. A month ago, United confirmed Dyer had been hit by a mystery ailment which was hindering his recovery from hamstring trouble. While that illness remains unknown, the 26-year-old has just returned from five days of tests at the British Olympic Association Medical Institute in Essex. And Souness is now confident of having Dyer back in action for Saturday's Premiership game against Arsenal - and for the rest of the season. "We have got to the bottom of him," said the United manager. "He came back on Thursday and will start training with the group again on Monday. "He has been feeling sorry for himself, but I spoke to him on Thursday night and he seemed happier." Souness claimed that Dyer's return would feel like signing a new player, saying: "He gives us something extra. "Look at what he did in 20 minutes against West Brom even though he was not right physically." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 We desperately need him at the moment, especially with Owen being out. However, how many times have we heard he's "turned the corner"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Geordie 1 Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 ... Until the next time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInspiration 1 Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 When he's back, I'd play him up front or just behind the strikers. He may even work on the right wing - would give Cygan a fun time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jusoda Kid 1 Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 Sorry but I'm not falling for this shit again. It's total bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44094 Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 I really hope he's sorted because, whether you like the lad or not, his pace and movement is what we've been crying out for. A pre-emptive "shut it!" to Leazes, who upon seeing the words "pace and movement" won't be able to resist mentioning the B-word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6670 Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 I really hope he's sorted because, whether you like the lad or not, his pace and movement is what we've been crying out for. A pre-emptive "shut it!" to Leazes, who upon seeing the words "pace and movement" won't be able to resist mentioning the B-word. 64355[/snapback] Boumsong? Bramble?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jusoda Kid 1 Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 (edited) I really hope he's sorted because, whether you like the lad or not, his pace and movement is what we've been crying out for. A pre-emptive "shut it!" to Leazes, who upon seeing the words "pace and movement" won't be able to resist mentioning the B-word. 64355[/snapback] Boumsong? Bramble?? 64359[/snapback] Bluque Edited December 4, 2005 by Wacky Jnr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM4 0 Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 ... Until the next time! 64325[/snapback] exactly, it's all implicit and understood that he'll get only a few games on top form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparks 0 Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 Utterly stupid statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio 0 Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 Put him on the right and stick Solano in the middle, he spends most of his time there anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 'We've got to the bottom of him' 'I spoke to him and he seems happier now' - yeah, happier now you've shut the fuck up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Love him or hate him, we're crying out for him at the minute. Although he's going to find it tough dislodging Amdy Faye from the first team after Saturday's performance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 2 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 How the fuck can they say his injury worries are over when they still have no idea what this mystery illness is?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInspiration 1 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Souness is lying/trying to be positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 3342 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Just a thought, if it turns out he is HIV positive how will opposition players react? Would he be forced to retire because of blood issues? Is that why the club have refused to disclose what is actually wrong with him? (This all speculation and if you take the Magic Johnson case for example it was declared basketball was a non contact sport, football isn't.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44094 Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 Just a thought, if it turns out he is HIV positive how will opposition players react?Would he be forced to retire because of blood issues? Is that why the club have refused to disclose what is actually wrong with him? (This all speculation and if you take the Magic Johnson case for example it was declared basketball was a non contact sport, football isn't.) 64643[/snapback] One big "EH???" to that post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 He's not HIV positive. If he was, they would never had let it out that he had a 'mystery illness' and would have had ongoing talks with the FA and PFA before disclosing any kind of information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15345 Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 Yeah, I presume they'd have a legal (and moral) obligation to be completely up-front about anything like that, rather than dressing it up in "ooooh, mysterious!" tones... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footsoldier 0 Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 How do you that these talks haven't taken place? The PFA are a bunch of idiots so you can't rely on them to make a rational decision. Putting out a " mystery illness " report and expecting fans to buy into that as an explanation is right up their street. I'm not sure that you have to make public an HIV status other than be on a confidential public health statistic. But things can get out. If he comes back and nobody tackles him then it might raise an eyebrow or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 I'm sure legally they'd have to inform both the FA and the PFA whereby the PFA would then have to take a vote to it's members to see if they would accept it. Seeing as a clash of heads and open woulds are aplenty I can't see them voting in favour. The FA I can imagine would ban Dyer from playing from the start of the saga to the finish and NUFC would not dare put out a 'mystery illness' if it were this serious. They'd be well and truly keeping it zipped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 3342 Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 One big "EH???" to that post. 64705[/snapback] What Gemmill you haven't thought about what's up with Dyer? The reason I asked that question is what "mystery illness" could he have that they have to keep quiet about, unless you gave him the clap again and their just embarrassed that he's to dumb to have not learnt the first time. There has to be complications over and above the usual issues, other clubs have never had a problem disclosing health issues with their players. So gemmill you're right, it's one big EH??? to the way the club is handling this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44094 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 One big "EH???" to that post. 64705[/snapback] What Gemmill you haven't thought about what's up with Dyer? The reason I asked that question is what "mystery illness" could he have that they have to keep quiet about, unless you gave him the clap again and their just embarrassed that he's to dumb to have not learnt the first time. There has to be complications over and above the usual issues, other clubs have never had a problem disclosing health issues with their players. So gemmill you're right, it's one big EH??? to the way the club is handling this. 64945[/snapback] Aye you're right. I'm being daft. The most obvious explanation to all of this is that the lad is HIV +. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckypierre 0 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 find it out on NO. Apparently it was revealed on there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 172 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Dyer suffers new injury setback Clicky here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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