LeazesMag 0 Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 thank fuck he never managed the mackems, with his mate, of course. This book arrived this morning. Thanks for the heads up Alex http://www.amazon.co.uk/Provided-You-Dont-...e/dp/0007247109 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shackbleep 0 Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 One of the greatest managers of all IMO - you can stick your Busby, Shankly, Paisley & Ferguson up your arse - what this bloke achieved with little Derby and little Forest is nothing short of remarkable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 thank fuck he never managed the mackems, with his mate, of course. This book arrived this morning. Thanks for the heads up Alex http://www.amazon.co.uk/Provided-You-Dont-...e/dp/0007247109 Legends cut short by injury to extend the parallels. My dad still talks about the challenge that finished Clough's career as he was at the match as a kid down the same end of the ground it happened. Bulk of the family are Mackems (I'm ashamed to say) and he was round their's for Boxing day for tea as usual so the match was just part of the day's events. Remembers it is clear as if it was yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14021 Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 A great read! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 One of the greatest managers of all IMO - you can stick your Busby, Shankly, Paisley & Ferguson up your arse - what this bloke achieved with little Derby and little Forest is nothing short of remarkable. Have always argued this (even though I am probably the most biased anti Man U fan going I admit). All the more painful that his last season as a manger ended with relegation...sort of mirrored the desperately sad end to his playing career. Re: Paisley btw, I actually think he doesn't get quite as much of the plaudits as he's due. Nobody even mentions him these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WDP Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 thank fuck he never managed the mackems, with his mate, of course. This book arrived this morning. Thanks for the heads up Alex http://www.amazon.co.uk/Provided-You-Dont-...e/dp/0007247109 Me dad reckons and I've never seen this quoted anywhere, when he left Leeds he was quoted as saying he would've crawled to Newcastle for the managers job here. Can you shead any light on that LM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted November 22, 2010 Author Share Posted November 22, 2010 I have had this book for years in an old paperback, and bought a hardbook version on ebay or amazon a few years ago for about a fiver. This is the best football book I've ever read. Clough and Taylor have always fascinated me, from their beginnings at Hartlepool when I was a kid, particularly Taylors ability to spot talented footballers immediately. Alex knew this and showed me the book which arrived today. This book is recommended to anybody, but look around for the low prices. ps.........why does it now allow the img for this photo when it did for the other one ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted November 22, 2010 Author Share Posted November 22, 2010 thank fuck he never managed the mackems, with his mate, of course. This book arrived this morning. Thanks for the heads up Alex http://www.amazon.co.uk/Provided-You-Dont-...e/dp/0007247109 Me dad reckons and I've never seen this quoted anywhere, when he left Leeds he was quoted as saying he would've crawled to Newcastle for the managers job here. Can you shead any light on that LM? he played for the mackems, and said he would crawl to sunderland to manage the mackems, in spite of being sacked as the youth coach before getting his first managers job at Hartlepool. He would probably have managed us too though, although Lord Westwood was once quoted [and said it on TV which I saw] "the day Brian Clough walks in the door to manage Newcastle is the day I walk out". What a wanker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted November 22, 2010 Author Share Posted November 22, 2010 (edited) thank fuck he never managed the mackems, with his mate, of course. This book arrived this morning. Thanks for the heads up Alex http://www.amazon.co.uk/Provided-You-Dont-...e/dp/0007247109 Legends cut short by injury to extend the parallels. My dad still talks about the challenge that finished Clough's career as he was at the match as a kid down the same end of the ground it happened. Bulk of the family are Mackems (I'm ashamed to say) and he was round their's for Boxing day for tea as usual so the match was just part of the day's events. Remembers it is clear as if it was yesterday. 3 minutes 18 seconds Edited November 22, 2010 by LeazesMag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shackbleep 0 Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 although Lord Westwood was once quoted [and said it on TV which I saw] "the day Brian Clough walks in the door to manage Newcastle is the day I walk out". What a wanker. All the more reason for Clough to have come tbh. Back to the plaudits that are so definitely deserved, SBR was obviously held in equal esteem for what he achieved at Ipswich around the same time. Legends the pair of them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Excellent read btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 thank fuck he never managed the mackems, with his mate, of course. This book arrived this morning. Thanks for the heads up Alex http://www.amazon.co.uk/Provided-You-Dont-...e/dp/0007247109 Legends cut short by injury to extend the parallels. My dad still talks about the challenge that finished Clough's career as he was at the match as a kid down the same end of the ground it happened. Bulk of the family are Mackems (I'm ashamed to say) and he was round their's for Boxing day for tea as usual so the match was just part of the day's events. Remembers it is clear as if it was yesterday. 3 minutes 18 seconds Had actually never seen the footage myself before you just posted that now...though it feels like I have the way I've heard it described down the years. Scene for scene, especially the bit where he's on his hands trying to get back to his feet afterwards. Heartbreaking to see for real, but it does feels like watching a huge moment in English football history. One thing you have to say is that, out of one of the most tragically prematurely ended careers in football came an absolutely miraculous second career. And there again that's something that distinguishes him from the other top English domestic managers he's typically mentioned alongside....he was an absolutely world class player too. Cheers for the link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 (edited) Seen that footage on the documentary about him that was on about the time the film version of The Damned United came out. Strange for it to have been caught on camera given there were so few games that were televised back then. The GK's from Newcastle iirc. I think Bob Stokoe was playing for the opposition as well. Edited November 22, 2010 by alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted November 22, 2010 Author Share Posted November 22, 2010 Seen that footage on the documentary about him that was on about the time the film version of The Damned United came out. Strange for it to have been caught on camera given there were so few games that were televised back then. The GK's from Newcastle iirc. I think Bob Stokoe was playing for the opposition as well. Bob Stokoe was centre half for Bury, and the goalkeeper was called Chris Harker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Seen that footage on the documentary about him that was on about the time the film version of The Damned United came out. Strange for it to have been caught on camera given there were so few games that were televised back then. The GK's from Newcastle iirc. I think Bob Stokoe was playing for the opposition as well. To this day does anyone provoke more mixed emotions? A north east legend I suppose (putting it diplomatically). That statue of him outside the SOL is hilarious though. Obviously I know the moment it captures, but it looks for all the world like the Eric Morecambe dance, only with his hands outstretched having a massive grope at the same time. Set off perfectly by the flashers mack of course. Could only be equalled if Luton erect a David Pleat in bronze, doing his Maine Road pitch invasion with lapels, flairs and sideburns going like the clappers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WDP Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Seen that footage on the documentary about him that was on about the time the film version of The Damned United came out. Strange for it to have been caught on camera given there were so few games that were televised back then. The GK's from Newcastle iirc. I think Bob Stokoe was playing for the opposition as well. To this day does anyone provoke more mixed emotions? A north east legend I suppose (putting it diplomatically). That statue of him outside the SOL is hilarious though. Obviously I know the moment it captures, but it looks for all the world like the Eric Morecambe dance, only with his hands outstretched having a massive grope at the same time. Set off perfectly by the flashers mack of course. Could only be equalled if Luton erect a David Pleat in bronze, doing his Maine Road pitch invasion with lapels, flairs and sideburns going like the clappers. fmpsl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 I genuinely would love someone to erect Pleat giving it the full Yiddish quickstep like. Priceless that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WDP Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 I genuinely would love someone to erect Pleat giving it the full Yiddish quickstep like. Priceless that. Would be even better if they put one on Seven Sisters Road bending down on the pavement as if he's talking to someone in a car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 I genuinely would love someone to erect Pleat giving it the full Yiddish quickstep like. Priceless that. Would be even better if they put one on Seven Sisters Road bending down on the pavement as if he's talking to someone in a car. Fucking imagine that, man! They can fuck off with public money for their new stadium but I'd be happy for the arts council to give them millions for that commission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WDP Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 I genuinely would love someone to erect Pleat giving it the full Yiddish quickstep like. Priceless that. Would be even better if they put one on Seven Sisters Road bending down on the pavement as if he's talking to someone in a car. Fucking imagine that, man! They can fuck off with public money for their new stadium but I'd be happy for the arts council to give them millions for that commission. HEHEHHEE Well it's part of Tottenham's history isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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