How tall are you and what weight are you, Sugartits?

[Gemmill 44943]

I take a Wellman multi vitamin if I remember. That's it.

[luckyluke 2]

 

I had a Chinese take-away, a really posh one

 

Wouldn't expect anything less from you.

[Kid Dynamite 7034]

The market for supplements is huge and its mental that its unregulated. When you think many people preach about eating shite filled with who knows what (colouring, bulking agents, preservatives you get the idea) and then go and stuff some unknown chemicals in their gob because some random website or bloke in the gym says "this will get you where you want to be faster".

 

Each to their own as ever. Think I've said before but I use BCAA on an empty stomach as I train at 6.30am and dont eat until 11am - noon. I have supplemented Creatine but don't at the moment. I have whey protein in the cupboard and its only really drank if in a particular day for some reason I've not been eating meat/fish. Fish oils I do take daily and I also take a multi vit. Sounds a lot when you write it out Nothing controversial though.

 

You get up at 6 am and don't eat until 12pm. That's just mental

[Andrew 4771]

Still just a tall skinny streak of piss.

 

I keep getting told it'll run out one of these days. 18, 21 etc

 

24 this month no signs of slowing down

[Tom 14011]

After aiming to lose weight in January I've put it on.

 

I'm slimmer by far but heavier. On the plus side I'm feeling fit & can role off a load of sit ups etc etc but I've missed cardio. No running due to SNOW and DARK.

[Park Life 71]

Cells go into defence mode if you don't eat before 12.

[JawD 99]

You get up at 6 am and don't eat until 12pm. That's just mental

 

Its really not that bad. sometimes if I am hungry by mid morning Ill eat something. If Im not bothered Ill wait. I get up at 5.40am, out the house at 6am and its a 25min drive to the gym. By the time Im at work its 8.30am and I have a cuppa (black coffee), Im fine with that really. I still have stuff now and again, if I'm at a sales meeting I still stuff my face with a bacon sarnie etc, its just occassional not daily.

[Park Life 71]

The under fed rats lived longer.

[JawD 99]

Cells go into defence mode if you don't eat before 12.

 

http://fitness.mercola.com/sites/fitness/archive/2012/05/04/fasting-effects-on-human-growth-hormone.aspx

 

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One 2008 study that evaluated the effect of fasting during the Muslim observance of Ramadan found it had a positive effect on body mass and other health markers in trained athletes.

 

While athletes are certainly concerned with shedding excess fat, another overriding concern is the optimization of muscle growth. For this, you need protein. As a general guideline, you'll want to consume a high quality protein 30-60 minutes after finishing your workout—whey being one of the most ideal for this purpose, as it helps your body build muscle and lose fat simultaneously. Research has also shown that high quality protein from meat and whey has a positive effect on blood sugar, muscle building, changing body composition, and sparing muscle while losing fat.

 

Many find it works out well to break their fast after working out, which would allow you to get the best of both worlds: the benefits of working out in a fasted state, and protein-loading about half-an-hour to an hour afterward. This is my new strategy. I will typically delay my breakfast until 11 or 12 and workout around 9 AM. Since my last meal is typically around 7 PM, I will fast for about 14-17 hours before I eat my first meal. The fact that you are sleeping during most of this time makes it relatively painless and easy to do.

 

Avoid grain carbs, however. Although popular with many, "carb loading" is a mistake, particularly for people engaged in intense strength training, as you will burn carb fuel very quickly and then "hit the wall." The same goes for most people who start their day with muffins, bagels, or pancakes for example. This type of breakfast typically ignites a vicious cycle of hunger and snacking on even more carbs. And the more you continue eating these carb snacks, the more insulin resistant you become.

 

Part of what makes working out in a fasted state so effective is that your body actually has a preservation mechanism that protects your active muscle from wasting itself. So if you don't have sufficient fuel in your system when you exercise, you're going to break down other tissues but not the active muscle, i.e. the muscle being exercised.

[Renton 21637]

Cells go into defence mode if you don't eat before 12.

 

Sorry, but . Reminds me of Gremlins.

 

You've got to be wary of researgh into diet and nutrition, it's often very poor methodologically speaking. I was reading on the BBC on Thursday that vegetarians have 32% less chance of having cardiovascular disease. Whilst its plausible they have less CVD, this struck me as far too high a reduction so I pulled out the original paper to support this (was bored). It was completely flawed methodologically, for instance in how they recruited participants. But it grabbed the headlines because it was a story with a big headline result. If they had done their analysis properly and admitted the studies obvious limitations, I doubt the BBC would have been interested in printing it.

[Dr Gloom 21950]

Healthy living is just common sense really. Agree with JawD that there's a lot of crap in the supplement market - so called fat stripper pills et al that claim to do all the work for you are clearly a waste of money.

 

You can get BCAA and Protein through food without taking the supplement but sometimes it's easier that way - particularly if you have a busy work and home life.

 

I'm a bit like JawD in that I still have a pizza and a few beers from time to time. Don't live like a monk 24/7 but 5 days a week I eat clean and avoid booze. Reducing alcohol and giving up smoking have had a hugely positive impact the results I've been getting from training - possibly as much ad cleaning up my diet.

[JawD 99]

Prob you as well, but training has become a bit of a hobby. Much like some play 5 a side. Only with my hobby its not just a the gym its when I eat as well. Its how I think of it anyway.

 

Oh, and for the first time since fuck knows when I bought a size medium T Shirt yesterday and jeans with a 34 waist that still needed a belt

[JawD 99]

Sorry, but . Reminds me of Gremlins.

 

You've got to be wary of researgh into diet and nutrition, it's often very poor methodologically speaking. I was reading on the BBC on Thursday that vegetarians have 32% less chance of having cardiovascular disease. Whilst its plausible they have less CVD, this struck me as far too high a reduction so I pulled out the original paper to support this (was bored). It was completely flawed methodologically, for instance in how they recruited participants. But it grabbed the headlines because it was a story with a big headline result. If they had done their analysis properly and admitted the studies obvious limitations, I doubt the BBC would have been interested in printing it.

 

Totally true. I can read one researched article one day due to a "study" and one that totally contradicts it the next.

[Christmas Tree 4728]

Well the annual big health push starts tomorrow. Bit later than normal due to a post New Year nasty cold type virus that has hung around most of the month.

 

Starting weight is 14 stone 6 1/2 pounds and I have no doubt whatsoever that come 1st March I will have lost a stone.

 

Treadmill and exercise bike have been dusted down, unhealthy food left off the shopping list and Alcohol given up for the month of February.

 

First official weigh in and today Im 14-2 ..... 4.5 pounds lighter than last week.

[Tooj 17]

Water retention.

[Meenzer 15552]

Good start CT. Best of luck.

[sweetleftpeg 0]

Eye of the tiger CT.

[Christmas Tree 4728]

Eye of the tiger indeed

[Renton 21637]

Hmmmm, the CT diet. Change nothing about your diet or exercise and lose 4 1/2 pounds in a single week. I can see that being a seller.

 

Not being funny CT but nothing you post on this thread makes any sense.

[Christmas Tree 4728]

Hmmmm, the CT diet. Change nothing about your diet or exercise and lose 4 1/2 pounds in a single week. I can see that being a seller.

 

Not being funny CT but nothing you post on this thread makes any sense.

 

5 posts above yours ffs.

Edited February 4, 2013 by Christmas Tree

[Dr Gloom 21950]

5 posts above yours ffs.

 

but didn't you have a session on the beers and burgers at the match on saturday?

[Park Life 71]

This thread is proof there is too much estrogen in tap water.

[Christmas Tree 4728]

 

but didn't you have a session on the beers and burgers at the match on saturday?

 

No burgers but I'm still calorie counting at around the 1500 a day mark.

 

Finding it quite hard to get up to 1500 some days.

 

Totally cut out bread.

[Park Life 71]

Eat what you want man. Life is short.

[Holden McGroin 6602]

Aye. I used to be a fitness nut all my life. Wasnt to bothered about what I ate too much as I did so much exercise. Having said that the more exercise you do the healthier you eat. I can see how it can get rather obsessive but I loved a good drinking session at the weekend and all the trimmings that go with it (kebabs etc) so never crossed that line. 6 pack or 8 pack. Does it really matter?

 

Due to injury, I've had to retire from major exercise now and although I dont eat a giant chocolate cake (nor do i calorie count) everyday I have fairly balanced diet.

 

Thats probably drilled into me by my parents. I was never allowed chocolate or "pop" before lunch time although, like J69 I had sandwhiches, choc bar, crisps and fruit in my packed lunch

 

 

 

 

Edited February 4, 2013 by Holden McGroin