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QANTAS in recent years have spent a fortune repairing a couple of planes that have come unstuck because they wanted to keep their "never written off an aircraft" record.

That said their service is shite, a lot of their fleet needs updating and they're expensive.

 

Qantas has a very bad rep here in NZ. Plus bits have fallen off their arcraft on a regular basis over the last 3 years. I was once coming back from Melbourne and they delayed the plane for 4 hours; their attitude was basically "fuck off and find something to do, we'll call you when we're ready". As it happens the delay was due to a passenger taking ill (apparently) but they didn't give a shit about the passengers left wondering when they'd get home, it was like flying with a hyper expensive Ryan Air.

 

I wouldn't fly with them again if I can help it.

 

 

the point is they have a very good record on not crashing

 

we'll not talk about Impact Erebus to a kiwi..................

 

Oof. I'm not a Kiwi btw. You sound a bit touchy about Qantas, you don't work for them do you?

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As I understand it the chances of being involved in a plane crash are about 1 in 1,000,000 (someone can sharpen up that stat if they know better) so stop being a massive girl and get on a fucking plane.

Wonder what the odds of a train or car crash are, bet they're lower than being in an aircrash. I've been in a car crash like, really scary shit the noise is horrible, so god knows what it must be like in a plane.

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Aye, just like they implicitly stated they were more concerned with service than safety. :icon_lol:

You still haven't pm'ed me about settling that bet btw.

 

 

don't need to - I conduct my business in the full light of day on this board

 

and the season isn't over yet...................

 

They may change the rules

 

You might die

 

I might die

 

The Sir Bobby Foundation may be found to be a Moslem Front by Leazes...................

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QANTAS in recent years have spent a fortune repairing a couple of planes that have come unstuck because they wanted to keep their "never written off an aircraft" record.

That said their service is shite, a lot of their fleet needs updating and they're expensive.

 

Qantas has a very bad rep here in NZ. Plus bits have fallen off their arcraft on a regular basis over the last 3 years. I was once coming back from Melbourne and they delayed the plane for 4 hours; their attitude was basically "fuck off and find something to do, we'll call you when we're ready". As it happens the delay was due to a passenger taking ill (apparently) but they didn't give a shit about the passengers left wondering when they'd get home, it was like flying with a hyper expensive Ryan Air.

 

I wouldn't fly with them again if I can help it.

 

 

the point is they have a very good record on not crashing

 

we'll not talk about Impact Erebus to a kiwi..................

 

Oof. I'm not a Kiwi btw. You sound a bit touchy about Qantas, you don't work for them do you?

 

no - they're a good airline tho - personally I prefer Air New Zealand but their safety record isn't as good as QANTAS

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As I understand it the chances of being involved in a plane crash are about 1 in 1,000,000 (someone can sharpen up that stat if they know better) so stop being a massive girl and get on a fucking plane.

Wonder what the odds of a train or car crash are, bet they're lower than being in an aircrash. I've been in a car crash like, really scary shit the noise is horrible, so god knows what it must be like in a plane.

 

Airlines

 

Odds of being involved in a fatal accident

 

Odds of being on an airline flight which results in at least one fatality

 

Top 25 airlines with the best accident rates 1 in 5.4 million

 

Bottom 25 with the worst accident rates 1 in 159,119

 

Odds of being killed on a single airline flight

 

Top 25 airlines with the best accident rates 1 in 9.2 million

 

Bottom 25 with the worst accident rates 1 in 843,744

 

Trains

 

According to the Transport Statistics Great Britain 2006 Edition, 5,172 people sustained personal injury in train accidents, accidents through movement of railway vehicles and accidents on railway premises in 2005. However, the odds of being killed in a train crash are 500,000/1 and public transport has been deemed the safest way to travel.

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no - they're a good airline tho - personally I prefer Air New Zealand but their safety record isn't as good as QANTAS

 

Is it though Rob. It's a well known fact that qantas have repaired planes that their insurance company wanted to write off, the 747 that ran off the end of the runway in Bankok in 1999 being case in point. Then also take into account they have had three major incidents this year.

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QANTAS in recent years have spent a fortune repairing a couple of planes that have come unstuck because they wanted to keep their "never written off an aircraft" record.

That said their service is shite, a lot of their fleet needs updating and they're expensive.

 

Qantas has a very bad rep here in NZ. Plus bits have fallen off their arcraft on a regular basis over the last 3 years. I was once coming back from Melbourne and they delayed the plane for 4 hours; their attitude was basically "fuck off and find something to do, we'll call you when we're ready". As it happens the delay was due to a passenger taking ill (apparently) but they didn't give a shit about the passengers left wondering when they'd get home, it was like flying with a hyper expensive Ryan Air.

 

I wouldn't fly with them again if I can help it.

 

 

the point is they have a very good record on not crashing

 

we'll not talk about Impact Erebus to a kiwi..................

 

Oof. I'm not a Kiwi btw. You sound a bit touchy about Qantas, you don't work for them do you?

 

no - they're a good airline tho - personally I prefer Air New Zealand but their safety record isn't as good as QANTAS

 

Dunno about safety record but from personal experience Air NZ pisses all over Qantas. And like I said anybody I speak to here won't fly Qantas unless they have to.

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QANTAS in recent years have spent a fortune repairing a couple of planes that have come unstuck because they wanted to keep their "never written off an aircraft" record.

That said their service is shite, a lot of their fleet needs updating and they're expensive.

 

Qantas has a very bad rep here in NZ. Plus bits have fallen off their arcraft on a regular basis over the last 3 years. I was once coming back from Melbourne and they delayed the plane for 4 hours; their attitude was basically "fuck off and find something to do, we'll call you when we're ready". As it happens the delay was due to a passenger taking ill (apparently) but they didn't give a shit about the passengers left wondering when they'd get home, it was like flying with a hyper expensive Ryan Air.

 

I wouldn't fly with them again if I can help it.

 

 

the point is they have a very good record on not crashing

 

we'll not talk about Impact Erebus to a kiwi..................

 

Oof. I'm not a Kiwi btw. You sound a bit touchy about Qantas, you don't work for them do you?

 

no - they're a good airline tho - personally I prefer Air New Zealand but their safety record isn't as good as QANTAS

 

Dunno about safety record but from personal experience Air NZ pisses all over Qantas. And like I said anybody I speak to here won't fly Qantas unless they have to.

 

Kitman, it's not just the residents of NZ that feel that way.

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QANTAS in recent years have spent a fortune repairing a couple of planes that have come unstuck because they wanted to keep their "never written off an aircraft" record.

That said their service is shite, a lot of their fleet needs updating and they're expensive.

 

Qantas has a very bad rep here in NZ. Plus bits have fallen off their arcraft on a regular basis over the last 3 years. I was once coming back from Melbourne and they delayed the plane for 4 hours; their attitude was basically "fuck off and find something to do, we'll call you when we're ready". As it happens the delay was due to a passenger taking ill (apparently) but they didn't give a shit about the passengers left wondering when they'd get home, it was like flying with a hyper expensive Ryan Air.

 

I wouldn't fly with them again if I can help it.

 

 

the point is they have a very good record on not crashing

 

we'll not talk about Impact Erebus to a kiwi..................

 

Oof. I'm not a Kiwi btw. You sound a bit touchy about Qantas, you don't work for them do you?

 

no - they're a good airline tho - personally I prefer Air New Zealand but their safety record isn't as good as QANTAS

 

Dunno about safety record but from personal experience Air NZ pisses all over Qantas. And like I said anybody I speak to here won't fly Qantas unless they have to.

 

Kitman, it's not just the residents of NZ that feel that way.

 

Is this a sort of England v Scotland thing :icon_lol:

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Is this a sort of England v Scotland thing :icon_lol:

 

What, that both New Zealanders and Australians think QANTAS is shit?

Leaze man, put your reading glasses on.

 

aye, dived in a bit there, maybe in anticipation :icon_lol: An Aussie I knew a while back used to swear by Qantas though.

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Is this a sort of England v Scotland thing :icon_lol:

 

What, that both New Zealanders and Australians think QANTAS is shit?

Leaze man, put your reading glasses on.

 

aye, dived in a bit there, maybe in anticipation :icon_lol: An Aussie I knew a while back used to swear by Qantas though.

 

Now we just swear at.

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Is it though Rob. It's a well known fact that qantas have repaired planes that their insurance company wanted to write off, the 747 that ran off the end of the runway in Bankok in 1999 being case in point. Then also take into account they have had three major incidents this year.

 

Still in service as of November 2008, that. It got me back from Singapore to London. Just. :icon_lol:

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As I understand it the chances of being involved in a plane crash are about 1 in 1,000,000 (someone can sharpen up that stat if they know better) so stop being a massive girl and get on a fucking plane.

Wonder what the odds of a train or car crash are, bet they're lower than being in an aircrash. I've been in a car crash like, really scary shit the noise is horrible, so god knows what it must be like in a plane.

 

Airlines

 

Odds of being involved in a fatal accident

 

Odds of being on an airline flight which results in at least one fatality

 

Top 25 airlines with the best accident rates 1 in 5.4 million

 

Bottom 25 with the worst accident rates 1 in 159,119

 

Odds of being killed on a single airline flight

 

Top 25 airlines with the best accident rates 1 in 9.2 million

 

Bottom 25 with the worst accident rates 1 in 843,744

 

Trains

 

According to the Transport Statistics Great Britain 2006 Edition, 5,172 people sustained personal injury in train accidents, accidents through movement of railway vehicles and accidents on railway premises in 2005. However, the odds of being killed in a train crash are 500,000/1 and public transport has been deemed the safest way to travel.

 

I bet you were a fucking trainspotter before the internet came along.

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no - they're a good airline tho - personally I prefer Air New Zealand but their safety record isn't as good as QANTAS

 

Is it though Rob. It's a well known fact that qantas have repaired planes that their insurance company wanted to write off, the 747 that ran off the end of the runway in Bankok in 1999 being case in point. Then also take into account they have had three major incidents this year.

 

all airlines repair broken planes- at $100 mm each they are reluctant to scrap unless they have to

 

Qantas is probably the only airline in the world were an engineer gets a commendation for STOPPING an aeroplane from flying if he even thinks there is something dodgy about it - not something you'd try at American for example

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"Dunno about safety record"

 

Qantas has never had a single fatal jet airplane crash. In fact, Qantas has had only 2 safety incidents and no fatalities whatsoever since 1951

 

ANZ 's last revenue fatal was flight 901 at Erebus in 1971 but they also lost an A3200 in France on test in 2009

 

Of course Qantas don't have an ad like this one

 

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As I understand it the chances of being involved in a plane crash are about 1 in 1,000,000 (someone can sharpen up that stat if they know better) so stop being a massive girl and get on a fucking plane.

Wonder what the odds of a train or car crash are, bet they're lower than being in an aircrash. I've been in a car crash like, really scary shit the noise is horrible, so god knows what it must be like in a plane.

 

Airlines

 

Odds of being involved in a fatal accident

 

Odds of being on an airline flight which results in at least one fatality

 

Top 25 airlines with the best accident rates 1 in 5.4 million

 

Bottom 25 with the worst accident rates 1 in 159,119

 

Odds of being killed on a single airline flight

 

Top 25 airlines with the best accident rates 1 in 9.2 million

 

Bottom 25 with the worst accident rates 1 in 843,744

 

Trains

 

According to the Transport Statistics Great Britain 2006 Edition, 5,172 people sustained personal injury in train accidents, accidents through movement of railway vehicles and accidents on railway premises in 2005. However, the odds of being killed in a train crash are 500,000/1 and public transport has been deemed the safest way to travel.

 

I bet you were a fucking trainspotter before the internet came along.

 

never saw the attraction

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"Dunno about safety record"

 

Qantas has never had a single fatal jet airplane crash. In fact, Qantas has had only 2 safety incidents and no fatalities whatsoever since 1951

 

ANZ 's last revenue fatal was flight 901 at Erebus in 1971 but they also lost an A3200 in France on test in 2009

 

Of course Qantas don't have an ad like this one

 

 

Give over man, I wasn't arguing against you, I was basically admitting I know nowt about it ! Qantas's recent record is obviously a worry, notwithstanding there's been no fatalities. A core requirement of mine from an airline is not crashing but ideally bits of the aircraft wouldn't explode or fall off either.

 

Erebus was a strange one, in that it seems to have been a trip for sightseeing in the South Pole and wasn't a typical commercial flight. The plane flew into the side of a mountain based on dodgy co-ordinates and poor visibility. The Air NZ management of the day were slaughtered about the episode but it seems to me that Air NZ is much better run these days.

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Aye, just like they implicitly stated they were more concerned with service than safety. :icon_lol:

You still haven't pm'ed me about settling that bet btw.

 

 

don't need to - I conduct my business in the full light of day on this board

 

and the season isn't over yet...................

 

They may change the rules

 

You might die

 

I might die

 

The Sir Bobby Foundation may be found to be a Moslem Front by Leazes...................

Do you fancy a bet on any of the bits in bold? :gay::lol:

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Aye, just like they implicitly stated they were more concerned with service than safety. :icon_lol:

You still haven't pm'ed me about settling that bet btw.

 

 

don't need to - I conduct my business in the full light of day on this board

 

and the season isn't over yet...................

 

They may change the rules

 

You might die

 

I might die

 

The Sir Bobby Foundation may be found to be a Moslem Front by Leazes...................

Do you fancy a bet on any of the bits in bold? :gay::lol:

 

I'll take a bet with him on his point number 4 too :good:

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"Dunno about safety record"

 

Qantas has never had a single fatal jet airplane crash. In fact, Qantas has had only 2 safety incidents and no fatalities whatsoever since 1951

 

ANZ 's last revenue fatal was flight 901 at Erebus in 1971 but they also lost an A3200 in France on test in 2009

 

Of course Qantas don't have an ad like this one

 

 

Give over man, I wasn't arguing against you, I was basically admitting I know nowt about it ! Qantas's recent record is obviously a worry, notwithstanding there's been no fatalities. A core requirement of mine from an airline is not crashing but ideally bits of the aircraft wouldn't explode or fall off either.

 

Erebus was a strange one, in that it seems to have been a trip for sightseeing in the South Pole and wasn't a typical commercial flight. The plane flew into the side of a mountain based on dodgy co-ordinates and poor visibility. The Air NZ management of the day were slaughtered about the episode but it seems to me that Air NZ is much better run these days.

 

 

Sorry to come in hard & heavy

 

Erebus was a cock up (but then most accidents are) the grim thing was the way the airline tried to hide the fact the charts given to the pilot were out of date and smear the crew

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Aye, just like they implicitly stated they were more concerned with service than safety. :icon_lol:

You still haven't pm'ed me about settling that bet btw.

 

 

don't need to - I conduct my business in the full light of day on this board

 

and the season isn't over yet...................

 

They may change the rules

 

You might die

 

I might die

 

The Sir Bobby Foundation may be found to be a Moslem Front by Leazes...................

Do you fancy a bet on any of the bits in bold? :gay::lol:

 

I'll take a bet with him on his point number 4 too :good:

 

 

the Abu Hamza of the West End

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"Dunno about safety record"

 

Qantas has never had a single fatal jet airplane crash. In fact, Qantas has had only 2 safety incidents and no fatalities whatsoever since 1951

 

ANZ 's last revenue fatal was flight 901 at Erebus in 1971 but they also lost an A3200 in France on test in 2009

 

Of course Qantas don't have an ad like this one

 

 

Give over man, I wasn't arguing against you, I was basically admitting I know nowt about it ! Qantas's recent record is obviously a worry, notwithstanding there's been no fatalities. A core requirement of mine from an airline is not crashing but ideally bits of the aircraft wouldn't explode or fall off either.

 

Erebus was a strange one, in that it seems to have been a trip for sightseeing in the South Pole and wasn't a typical commercial flight. The plane flew into the side of a mountain based on dodgy co-ordinates and poor visibility. The Air NZ management of the day were slaughtered about the episode but it seems to me that Air NZ is much better run these days.

 

 

Sorry to come in hard & heavy

 

Erebus was a cock up (but then most accidents are) the grim thing was the way the airline tried to hide the fact the charts given to the pilot were out of date and smear the crew

 

Yes, you're absolutely right about the cover up. I recently met the ex-marketing director of Air NZ at the time of Erebus. He told me they spent an absolute fortune on ads with Alan Whicker (who he described as the worst hypochondriac he'd ever met) around the slogan "Nobody Does it Better". It was scrapped when Erebus happened (and it was apparent most airlines did it better) and he was sacked shortly afterwards.

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Aye, just like they implicitly stated they were more concerned with service than safety. :suicide:

You still haven't pm'ed me about settling that bet btw.

 

 

don't need to - I conduct my business in the full light of day on this board

 

and the season isn't over yet...................

 

They may change the rules

 

You might die

 

I might die

 

The Sir Bobby Foundation may be found to be a Moslem Front by Leazes...................

Do you fancy a bet on any of the bits in bold? :razz::D

 

I'll take a bet with him on his point number 4 too :razz:

 

 

the Abu Hamza of the West End

 

not quite. He should have been kicked out ages ago. Fancy that bet then ?

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