Happy Face 29 Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 The chairman of British Airways has said some "completely redundant" airport security checks should be scrapped and the UK should stop "kowtowing" to US security demands. Practices such as forcing passengers to take off their shoes should be abandoned, Martin Broughton said. And he questioned why laptop computers needed to be screened separately. The Department for Transport said there were no plans to change rules on checking laptops and shoes. Mr Broughton also criticised the US for imposing increased checks on US-bound flights but not on its own domestic services. The US stepped up security in January in the wake of an alleged bomb plot. It introduced tougher screening rules, including body pat-down searches and carry-on baggage checks, for passengers arriving from 14 nations which the authorities deem to be a security risk. Passengers from any foreign country may also be checked at random. Speaking at the UK Airport Operators' Association annual conference, Mr Broughton said that no-one wanted weaker security. But he was quoted by the Financial Times as telling the conference: "We all know there's quite a number of elements in the security programme which are completely redundant and they should be sorted out." 'Consider essential' Mr Broughton, who is also chairman of Liverpool FC, added the UK should only agree to security checks that the US requires for passengers on domestic flights. "America does not do internally a lot of the things they demand that we do," he said. "We shouldn't stand for that." "We should say, 'we'll only do things which we consider to be essential and that you Americans also consider essential'." Airport security worldwide has risen since the 9/11 terrorist attacks, and in December 2001 London-born Richard Reid attempted to blow up a commercial flight in the United States, using bombs hidden in his shoes. The UK's overall threat level, set by the Joint Terrorism Analysis Centre, remains at severe, which means that an attack is highly likely. The US's Transport Security Administration said it worked closely with its international partners to ensure the best possible security. "We constantly review and evolve our security measures based on the latest intelligence," a spokesman said. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11632944 Should just restrict the checks to arabs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 I dont see whats to be gained in time or man power by not screening laptops outside of the luggage? I pull it out of my bag, put it in a tray then put it back in afterwards, although yesterday they pulled it to one side and then ran a swab over the top of it and analysed that which Ive not seen them do before. As for shoes, Im never asked to take mine off, is it just boots they want to screen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6930 Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 I traveled to and internally in the US recently and both were similar. Belts off, laptop out. I think I took shoes off as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 I've no problems with security measures and don't see why anyone should object. It's for your safety, at the end of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 27, 2010 Author Share Posted October 27, 2010 I've no problems with security measures and don't see why anyone should object. It's for your safety, at the end of the day. Agreed. Should do it at the match too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 99 Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 I've no problems with security measures and don't see why anyone should object. It's for your safety, at the end of the day. Agreed. Should do it at the match too. I dont object at all. Its the stupid fuckers that wait until the very last second to get their shit sorted out that irritate me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TicTacWoe 0 Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 I've no problems with security measures and don't see why anyone should object. It's for your safety, at the end of the day. Agreed. Should do it at the match too. I dont object at all. Its the stupid fuckers that wait until the very last second to get their shit sorted out that irritate me. exactly, how many times I've been in the queue with a bunch of twats moaning on about how long its taking and when the time comes to go through the security they havn't gotten anything ready and seem shocked that they're being asked to do anything at all. Ugh, people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4446 Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 I flew from Stansted to Newcastle on the day after September 11th and things were understandably twitchy. There was a bloke in front of me at check-in arguing till he was blue in the face that he shouldn't have to put his laptop in the hold as he needed it in-flight. Criminal ignorance and insensitivity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31595 Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 When i was flying regularly there it fucked me off constantly the amount of twats seeing everyone in front of them go through the same process of removing belts/jewellery after setting off scanners for them to do the same thing then go "oh didnt think i had to" mongs the lot of them, i was like clooney in that "up in the air" movie, walk up, set down pile of stuff thats already been sorted, walk through, walk off My theory is that anyone who sets off the scanner should be sent to the back of the queue. We'd see how many forget to empty their pockets in that case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 trouble is the varaiability - Aberdeen is a real b***** with the detection settings obviously set very sensitive compared to Heathrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 (edited) I traveled to and internally in the US recently and both were similar. Belts off, laptop out. I think I took shoes off as well. Aye I flew Dayton Ohio to Newark international just last month and I had to do all that including a shoe scan, I'm not sure why they keeps saying these checks don't take place on internal US flights. Personally got no problem with it tbh it's not hard to do gets a bit annoying if you have to go through 3 checks where you take your shoes off (like i did in manchester once while going to newark) give me something to fill the time in between check in and the flight i guess edit: agree with ant btw i've never set off a scanner in an airport it's not rocket science I've seen people going through it 3 times before realizing the massive metal necklace round their necks... Edited October 27, 2010 by Barton7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 It's all a complete overkill. Plastic explosive is undetectable anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 I've no problems with security measures and don't see why anyone should object. It's for your safety, at the end of the day. Agreed. Should do it at the match too. 'Shoes off if you love the toon'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 43639 Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 It's all a complete overkill. Plastic explosive is undetectable anyway. Except when its hidden up your hoop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 It's all a complete overkill. Plastic explosive is undetectable anyway. it is by a metal detector but sniffer gadgets get it every time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 It's all a complete overkill. Plastic explosive is undetectable anyway. it is by a metal detector but sniffer gadgets get it every time you let a dog sniff your arse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 what a very odd comment........................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 It's all a complete overkill. Plastic explosive is undetectable anyway. it is by a metal detector but sniffer gadgets get it every time you let a dog sniff your arse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 It's all a complete overkill. Plastic explosive is undetectable anyway. it is by a metal detector but sniffer gadgets get it every time Yeah like what? You mean the air spraying thing? Or dogs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 dear oh dear oh dear...... they have them special rooms they put you in and check the air, they run sniffer dogs over the checked luggage and have hand held sniffer units they also use. Some airports have special corridors you walk down and they also have sniffer technology as well as metal detectors built into the walls- its been around for years man - use yer eyes............................................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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