ChezGiven 0 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 The fact that huge oil reserves were coerced from an insane crime family isn't a damning inditement of the invasion. Chez are you referring to the neo-cons desire for control of the mid-east region when you talk of 'sinister' motives? Yeah, sure. Oil is a means to an end though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missed Sticks 0 Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 The fact that huge oil reserves were coerced from an insane crime family isn't a damning inditement of the invasion. Chez are you referring to the neo-cons desire for control of the mid-east region when you talk of 'sinister' motives? Yeah, sure. Oil is a means to an end though. I read an arguement that the US doesn't need the oil itself but that it seeks to control the supply/price of it to it's competitors. Namely Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinofbeans 91 Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 The fact that huge oil reserves were coerced from an insane crime family isn't a damning inditement of the invasion. Chez are you referring to the neo-cons desire for control of the mid-east region when you talk of 'sinister' motives? Yeah, sure. Oil is a means to an end though. I read an arguement that the US doesn't need the oil itself but that it seeks to control the supply/price of it to it's competitors. Namely Europe. paranoia.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 I read an argument that if everyone was gay we'd have to rely on monkeys to procreate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 23, 2010 Author Share Posted October 23, 2010 The world is better off without Saddam. It would be better off without leaders of certain other countries too, admittedly, but we can't go around playing the world's policeman all the time. It's a shame that the leftie hippies think the way they do. The Wikileaks documents number in the hundreds of thousands. They take the form of reports written by soldiers after vicious firefights with insurgents, or after a roadside bomb has gone off, or the bodies of a family have been found murdered in an abandoned factory. Their language is military - hard and attenuated. We found, with relative ease, reports of horrible abuse committed by Iraqi security forces on detainees - beatings, electrocution, the use of an electric drill on a man's legs. The Americans were aware the abuse had taken place. On some, not all, of these reports was marked "no further investigation", suggesting that American forces took no action on learning of the abuse. In another case, US soldiers suspected army officers of cutting off a detainee's fingers and burning him with acid. The true lessons contained in these documents will take months or years to emerge. But an early question they pose is: why do Iraqi security forces appear to be continuing practices that might have died with the fall of Saddam Hussein's regime? And what has the United States done to end them? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-11612731 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Shame we can't bring Saddam back from the dead and reinstate him tbh. At least when he tortured people it was made into a family affair, bringing the severed limbs of children to their family homes to let them know who's in charge, and bringing the family along to applaud as their daughters were raped by the Ba'athists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 always a man for the personal touch our Saddam - even shot his own Cabinet Ministers............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 The world is better off without Saddam. It would be better off without leaders of certain other countries too, admittedly, but we can't go around playing the world's policeman all the time. It's a shame that the leftie hippies think the way they do. The Wikileaks documents number in the hundreds of thousands. They take the form of reports written by soldiers after vicious firefights with insurgents, or after a roadside bomb has gone off, or the bodies of a family have been found murdered in an abandoned factory. Their language is military - hard and attenuated. We found, with relative ease, reports of horrible abuse committed by Iraqi security forces on detainees - beatings, electrocution, the use of an electric drill on a man's legs. The Americans were aware the abuse had taken place. On some, not all, of these reports was marked "no further investigation", suggesting that American forces took no action on learning of the abuse. In another case, US soldiers suspected army officers of cutting off a detainee's fingers and burning him with acid. The true lessons contained in these documents will take months or years to emerge. But an early question they pose is: why do Iraqi security forces appear to be continuing practices that might have died with the fall of Saddam Hussein's regime? And what has the United States done to end them? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-11612731 Jesus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 (edited) http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/artic...6e499e56f02.1d1 "We don't want to get into the blame game. Linda is dead, and there's nothing going to bring her back to us," said Lorna Norgrove in a television interview filmed by a family friend and released to the media. John Norgrove added: "We don't know what the outcome would have been if no rescue attempt had been made." An investigation is underway into how Linda died, but US military officials fear the 36-year-old may have been killed by a grenade thrown by a rescuer. "It would appear to us that the rescue attempt was so close to being a total success and at the end there is what appears to have been a human error," her father said. "But we do think that it's very creditable of the Americans to own up that there's been a mistake when they could so easily have covered the whole thing up. We do think they deserve credit for that." HappyFace was also interviewed by the media, adding, "Oh no, there was a war and someone died. Shocking. I screamed at the television 'I AM SHOCKED. THIS IS A COVER UP. I HATE AMERICA' then I changed into a pair of clean underpants and read Juan Cole's assessment of the situation which was America is evil." Edited October 29, 2010 by Kevin S. Assilleekunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/artic...6e499e56f02.1d1 "We don't want to get into the blame game. Linda is dead, and there's nothing going to bring her back to us," said Lorna Norgrove in a television interview filmed by a family friend and released to the media. John Norgrove added: "We don't know what the outcome would have been if no rescue attempt had been made." An investigation is underway into how Linda died, but US military officials fear the 36-year-old may have been killed by a grenade thrown by a rescuer. "It would appear to us that the rescue attempt was so close to being a total success and at the end there is what appears to have been a human error," her father said. "But we do think that it's very creditable of the Americans to own up that there's been a mistake when they could so easily have covered the whole thing up. We do think they deserve credit for that." HappyFace was also interviewed by the media, adding, "Oh no, there was a war and someone died. Shocking. I screamed at the television 'I AM SHOCKED. THIS IS A COVER UP. I HATE AMERICA' then I changed into a pair of clean underpants and read Juan Cole's assessment of the situation which was America is evil." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted December 2, 2010 Author Share Posted December 2, 2010 Aid worker Linda Norgrove was killed by a grenade thrown by a US special forces soldier sent to rescue her, a joint US-UK investigation has found. Ms Norgrove, 36, from Lewis, Scotland, was taken hostage in Afghanistan in September. She died on 8 October. It had been thought she was killed by her captors. Foreign Secretary William Hague said US soldiers had been disciplined for not informing commanders immediately that the grenade was a suspected cause. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-high...slands-11900709 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 In other news, the Pope is Catholic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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