'Mumbai-style' terror attack on UK, France and Germany foiled

[LeazesMag 0]

The Muslim world is brilliant, full of plans to make this planet a better place to live, they're advanced wonderful people who have made this country better with their free flowing ideas and their willingness to embrace new cultures. And their daft lads they're just having a laugh aren't they, you've got to hand it to them.

 

and their women are lush

[tooner 243]

The Muslim world is brilliant, full of plans to make this planet a better place to live, they're advanced wonderful people who have made this country better with their free flowing ideas and their willingness to embrace new cultures. And their daft lads they're just having a laugh aren't they, you've got to hand it to them.

 

 

the entire muslim world? or just the fundamentalist portion of it?.. .you realize that if you substitute 'muslim' with 'christian right' it still rings true

 

I'm sure half of the racists on here must be called Billy-Bob

 

FYP

[LeazesMag 0]

The Muslim world is brilliant, full of plans to make this planet a better place to live, they're advanced wonderful people who have made this country better with their free flowing ideas and their willingness to embrace new cultures. And their daft lads they're just having a laugh aren't they, you've got to hand it to them.

 

 

the entire muslim world? or just the fundamentalist portion of it?.. .you realize that if you substitute 'muslim' with 'christian right' it still rings true

 

I'm sure half of the racists on here must be called Billy-Bob

 

FYP

 

hilarious.

[tooner 243]

The Muslim world is brilliant, full of plans to make this planet a better place to live, they're advanced wonderful people who have made this country better with their free flowing ideas and their willingness to embrace new cultures. And their daft lads they're just having a laugh aren't they, you've got to hand it to them.

 

 

the entire muslim world? or just the fundamentalist portion of it?.. .you realize that if you substitute 'muslim' with 'christian right' it still rings true

 

I'm sure half of the racists on here must be called Billy-Bob

 

FYP

 

hilarious.

 

 

yes you are...

[Rob W 0]

And indoor toilets. And chess. And Noureen DeWulf.

 

 

and astronomy and algebra and carpets and coffee and books and Emirates direct from Newcastle - when did Christian Bloody Airlines ever fly from Tyneside eh?

[sniffer 0]

And where did all of these early achievements get these ragheads? Sitting in fucking caves muttering about turning the clock back to the 14th century.

[Park Life 71]

And where did all of these early achievements get these ragheads? Sitting in fucking caves muttering about turning the clock back to the 14th century.

 

[Guest Tuco Ramirez]

The Muslim world is brilliant, full of plans to make this planet a better place to live, they're advanced wonderful people who have made this country better with their free flowing ideas and their willingness to embrace new cultures. And their daft lads they're just having a laugh aren't they, you've got to hand it to them.

 

and their women are lush

Aye depends if you like hairy upper lips. The principle behind them veils is because the men don't want other men lusting over their women. I mean FFS. It's like Chubby Brown's wife insisting he wears one in case floods of women crave his sex.

[acrossthepond 878]

And where did all of these early achievements get these ragheads? Sitting in fucking caves muttering about turning the clock back to the 14th century.

 

It's 7th century. 7th. Wouldn't want you to commit a factual error to go along with your ignorance and racism, you've got enough on your plate.

[NJS 4411]

And where did all of these early achievements get these ragheads? Sitting in fucking caves muttering about turning the clock back to the 14th century.

 

It's 7th century. 7th. Wouldn't want you to commit a factual error to go along with your ignorance and racism, you've got enough on your plate.

 

Islam wasn't that bad in the early days - certainly pissed on Europe's dark ages in terms of scientific progress etc - I think it was about the 16th century when it started to go a bit wrong.

[acrossthepond 878]

And where did all of these early achievements get these ragheads? Sitting in fucking caves muttering about turning the clock back to the 14th century.

 

It's 7th century. 7th. Wouldn't want you to commit a factual error to go along with your ignorance and racism, you've got enough on your plate.

 

Islam wasn't that bad in the early days - certainly pissed on Europe's dark ages in terms of scientific progress etc - I think it was about the 16th century when it started to go a bit wrong.

 

What happened in the 1500s that made it go wrong? The Ottoman Empire was still at its strongest then. No, it was the late 19th century when Islamic civilisation entered a terminal decline ending in the fall of the Ottomans and the rise of Islamism as a political philosophy, then the early 20th century post-WWI period when Western colonial powers set up dictatorships in the former Ottoman territories that endure to this day (see Saudi, Jordan, most of the Gulf states, etc).

 

What I said about the 7th century was referring to his "turn back the clock" comment. Nobody wants to turn back the clock to the 1300s. The radicals say they're going to re-implement the caliphate, shari'a, etc - all of which dates from the 7th century, the time of the Prophet.

[sniffer 0]

I stand corrected.

 

The ragheads want to turn the clock back to the 7th century. Got it.

 

Sitting on your carpet, swigging coffee and doing your algebra.

 

Those were the days, mohammed. Those were the days.

[acrossthepond 878]

I stand corrected.

 

The ragheads want to turn the clock back to the 7th century. Got it.

 

Sitting on your carpet, swigging coffee and doing your algebra.

 

Those were the days, mohammed. Those were the days.

 

Prepare to be corrected again - in the 7th century, we probably didn't have "carpets" (those were from Persia, who certainly weren't Muslim at the time), we (or the world) didn't have coffee until the 1400s, and algebra wasn't codified into one discipline until the 8th century.

 

The 7th century - well, picture a vast sandy desert somewhere in the middle of a much vaster sandy desert in the Arabian Peninsula - what we now call Saudi Arabia - where small bands of independent tribes (heavily inbred no doubt) herded camels, warred with one another, occasionally wrote poetry and recited it at inter-tribe meetings, and visited small cities built around oases (such as Mecca). Then the Prophet came, warred with the city folk of Mecca, was eventually thrown out for being a 'heretic', fled across the desert to Medina, raised an army, defeated the city dwellers at Mecca and unified the tribes into the nation of Islam, then began to go out and spread the new religion.

 

That's what the Islamists want to return to - a society dominated entirely by religion and religious law, headed by a ruler who can trace his right to rule from the original Rightly-Guided caliphs, who spread their religion and culture through warfare.

 

I hope you can understand that the rest of us - that is, the vast majority - have no intention of going back to that way of life and do not support those who do.

[NJS 4411]

And where did all of these early achievements get these ragheads? Sitting in fucking caves muttering about turning the clock back to the 14th century.

 

It's 7th century. 7th. Wouldn't want you to commit a factual error to go along with your ignorance and racism, you've got enough on your plate.

 

Islam wasn't that bad in the early days - certainly pissed on Europe's dark ages in terms of scientific progress etc - I think it was about the 16th century when it started to go a bit wrong.

 

What happened in the 1500s that made it go wrong? The Ottoman Empire was still at its strongest then. No, it was the late 19th century when Islamic civilisation entered a terminal decline ending in the fall of the Ottomans and the rise of Islamism as a political philosophy, then the early 20th century post-WWI period when Western colonial powers set up dictatorships in the former Ottoman territories that endure to this day (see Saudi, Jordan, most of the Gulf states, etc).

 

What I said about the 7th century was referring to his "turn back the clock" comment. Nobody wants to turn back the clock to the 1300s. The radicals say they're going to re-implement the caliphate, shari'a, etc - all of which dates from the 7th century, the time of the Prophet.

 

Wasn't in around the 16th that the Sunni/Shia split happened? - obviously I'm not an expert but had read what may have been a throwaway remark about Islamic centres of learning etc "coming to an end" about then.

[acrossthepond 878]

Wasn't in around the 16th that the Sunni/Shia split happened? - obviously I'm not an expert but had read what may have been a throwaway remark about Islamic centres of learning etc "coming to an end" about then.

 

No, we didn't even make it out of the 7th century before the split occurred. Some (especially zealous) Shi'a commentators say it happened as soon as the Prophet died in 632 and Ali was not appointed his rightful successor, but most less biased historians make it 680, the battle of Karbala, where Hussein (Ali's son and successor) was killed by the Sunnis.

 

What did happen regarding the Shi'a in the 1500s was that Persia and much of Iraq became Shi'a when previously no really powerful nations followed that branch of the religion, so that could be where you got that idea.

[Guest Tuco Ramirez]

On a scale of 1-10 how racist would you say the term "ragheads" was sniffer?

[sniffer 0]

0.1

 

 

I love these lads.

[Guest Tuco Ramirez]

0.1

 

 

I love these lads.

Indian hindu's wear turbans, in fact its not even a muslim thing is it?

[Park Life 71]

I stand corrected.

 

The ragheads want to turn the clock back to the 7th century. Got it.

 

Sitting on your carpet, swigging coffee and doing your algebra.

 

Those were the days, mohammed. Those were the days.

 

Prepare to be corrected again - in the 7th century, we probably didn't have "carpets" (those were from Persia, who certainly weren't Muslim at the time), we (or the world) didn't have coffee until the 1400s, and algebra wasn't codified into one discipline until the 8th century.

 

The 7th century - well, picture a vast sandy desert somewhere in the middle of a much vaster sandy desert in the Arabian Peninsula - what we now call Saudi Arabia - where small bands of independent tribes (heavily inbred no doubt) herded camels, warred with one another, occasionally wrote poetry and recited it at inter-tribe meetings, and visited small cities built around oases (such as Mecca). Then the Prophet came, warred with the city folk of Mecca, was eventually thrown out for being a 'heretic', fled across the desert to Medina, raised an army, defeated the city dwellers at Mecca and unified the tribes into the nation of Islam, then began to go out and spread the new religion.

 

That's what the Islamists want to return to - a society dominated entirely by religion and religious law, headed by a ruler who can trace his right to rule from the original Rightly-Guided caliphs, who spread their religion and culture through warfare.

 

I hope you can understand that the rest of us - that is, the vast majority - have no intention of going back to that way of life and do not support those who do.

 

Sounds very poetic though.

 

You do realise that spreading culture through warfare is exactly what we're (the west) are upto?

[Guest alex]

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I love these lads.

Indian hindu's wear turbans, in fact its not even a muslim thing is it?

It's Sikhs you're thinking of. Although it's not just them that wear them.

[tooner 243]

On a scale of 1-10 how racist would you say the term "ragheads" was sniffer?

 

 

the real test of whether a comment or remark is racist is whether or not you would use the remark in question if you were in the minority in a group of people for which the remark was meant.

 

so if you would call a group of hindhus or sihks 'ragheads' while you were the only white there, then no it's not racist it's just ignorant. however if you're too much of a pussy to say such things in such a situation, then.....ding ding ding, give that man a hood because he's racist.

[Renton 22016]

On a scale of 1-10 how racist would you say the term "ragheads" was sniffer?

 

 

the real test of whether a comment or remark is racist is whether or not you would use the remark in question if you were in the minority in a group of people for which the remark was meant.

 

so if you would call a group of hindhus or sihks 'ragheads' while you were the only white there, then no it's not racist it's just ignorant. however if you're too much of a pussy to say such things in such a situation, then.....ding ding ding, give that man a hood because he's racist.

 

Spot on.

[Park Life 71]

I've been in very posh company from time to time and actually the racism in such rarified nests is very startling. "Ragheads" was used routinely. Shameful really. Ironically latent racism is much more common amongst the upper middle classes rather than football lads like Sniffs.

[toughguymick@hotmail.co.uk 0]

We got the weapons to deal with the terrorist's. The indians were using worldwar 2 guns. Still they pose a threat but it wouldn't be like a Mumbai style terror attack that a load of bollocks. The police will gas them then run in with modern machine guns and take them out.

[Guest alex]

That reassurings (sic)