In America

[Renton 22007]

"US Defence Secretary Robert Gates has called the pastor and asked him to cancel Saturday's protest."

 

I was going to complain about the ridiculous attention this barnpot has been getting when I noticed Mark Mardell's quote on the BBC...

 

How come an extremist planning a book-burning that would disgrace any time after the Middle Ages has some of the top politicians in the West jerking around like puppets on a string ?”

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Mark Mardell

BBC North America editor

 

Leave the fucker to it and don't report it. It's not news. If it was someone in South Shields and the Gazette put it on page 3 I'd say they were daft for giving it such attention.

 

'International draw Muhammad day' was news, when thousands upon thousands protested by indulging their freedom of expression. This is a single dunce who seems to have far more koran's than I'd expect of him. Who's supplying them? If I were to burn one I'd have to go and buy it first. Who'd be mug enough to do that?

 

I agree with you, as I have said on the other thread. One of the ironic problems in living in a country that has a free media is, well, having a free media. People are idiots and all that.

 

I think the korans were donated to him across America.

[Happy Face 29]

I think the korans were donated to him across America.

 

Self hating muslims?

[Renton 22007]

I think the korans were donated to him across America.

 

Self hating muslims?

 

Curious christians?

 

Anybody here actually read it btw? Please use spoilers, I don't want the ending ruined for me.

[Meenzer 15731]

I think the korans were donated to him across America.

 

Self hating muslims?

 

Curious christians?

 

Anybody here actually read it btw? Please use spoilers, I don't want the ending ruined for me.

 

Turns out Mohammed can see dead people.

[TheMoog 0]

I think the korans were donated to him across America.

 

Self hating muslims?

 

Curious christians?

 

Anybody here actually read it btw? Please use spoilers, I don't want the ending ruined for me.

 

Turns out Mohammed can see dead people.

 

Yeah and his psychiatrist was dead all along.

[Happy Face 29]

I think the korans were donated to him across America.

 

Self hating muslims?

 

Curious christians?

 

Anybody here actually read it btw? Please use spoilers, I don't want the ending ruined for me.

 

Doesn't incite as much violence as the bible.....or demand readers spread it's word so much.

[AgentAxeman 189]

.....or demand readers spread it's word so much.

 

 

yes it does, also it has more fucknuts willing to kill themselves reading it as well.

[Gemmill 46086]

Swear on the Qu'ran that you've read it.

[Happy Face 29]

.....or demand readers spread it's word so much.

 

 

yes it does

 

Which bit?

 

also it has more fucknuts willing to kill themselves reading it as well.

 

 

http://www.iasp.info/pdf/papers/Bertolote.pdf

 

You're so wrong it's unbelievable.

 

Why do you make claims about things you haven't done the most basic reading up on?

[ewerk 31221]

Koran-burning protests sweep Afghanistan

 

Thousands of protesters have held anti-American rallies in provinces across Afghanistan over plans by a US church to burn copies of the Koran.

 

Demonstrators burned a US flag and chanted "Death to Christians".

 

Three people were shot and wounded when private security guards opened fire on stone throwers outside a Nato base in Badakhshan province, police said.

 

President Hamid Karzai said the Florida church's plan - now on hold - had been an insult Islam's followers.

 

In Badakhshan's provincial capital Faizabad, 1,500 people poured on to the streets, the police chief told the BBC.

 

About 150 people took part in another protest in the city, throwing rocks and attempting to climb the walls of a Nato base. Private security guards opened fire wounding three, said the police chief.

 

Rallies were also held in Nimruz's provincial capital Zaranj; the province of Kunar, in Khas Kunar district; Nangarhar province, at the Khewa district; and the Tagab district of Parwan province, just north of Kabul.

 

'Insult to nations'

 

And demonstrations were reported on Friday in the northern provinces of Baghlan, Kundoz and Balkh. Afghanistan has 34 provinces.

 

There have been major demonstrations in Kabul, too, over the past week.

 

Witnesses said the protesters voiced anger that the US government had not banned the Koran-burning.

 

Terry Jones, pastor of the previously little-known Dove World Outreach Center in the US state of Florida, announced on Thursday that he was putting on hold his plan for an "International Burn a Koran Day".

 

In an Eid message, President Karzai said: "We have heard that in the US, a pastor has decided to insult Korans. Now although we have heard that they are not doing this, we tell them they should not even think of it."

 

"By burning the Koran they cannot harm it. The Koran is in the hearts and minds of one-and-a-half billion people. Insulting the Koran is an insult to nations."

 

The US military commander in Afghanistan, General David Petraeus, warned earlier this week the stunt would endanger lives, while President Barack Obama called it a "recruitment bonanza" for al-Qaeda.

[Renton 22007]

.....or demand readers spread it's word so much.

 

 

yes it does

 

Which bit?

 

also it has more fucknuts willing to kill themselves reading it as well.

 

 

http://www.iasp.info/pdf/papers/Bertolote.pdf

 

You're so wrong it's unbelievable.

 

Why do you make claims about things you haven't done the most basic reading up on?

 

To be fair HF I think he was probably referring to suicide terrorists which is broadly true (with some exceptions).

 

I can't be bothered to check the source for that bar chart either but I'd stake money on it being flawed regarding relating suicide to religious belief - there's a whole host of factors that could explain why atheists (mainly from developed countries) are recorded as committing suicide more than muslims (off the top of my head would be suicide is a modern 'illness', methodological problems in recording the data, stigma in muslim countries etc).

 

I'll be controversial here and say in general and in its current form, I find Islam to be the most offensive and dangerous religion. CLosely followed by christian nut jobs in the States.

[Park Life 71]

There is no point in having a religion if it isn't dangerous. © Parkour

[Renton 22007]

There is no point in having a religion if it isn't dangerous. © Parkour

 

Mankind has reached the stage in the 'Developed World' where any benefits of religion are outweighed by the negatives. It is all a great lie used to control the masses - Marx was spot on.

 

I would imagine organised religion would be an anathema to you Parky?

[Park Life 71]

There is no point in having a religion if it isn't dangerous. © Parkour

 

Mankind has reached the stage in the 'Developed World' where any benefits of religion are outweighed by the negatives. It is all a great lie used to control the masses - Marx was spot on.

 

I would imagine organised religion would be an anathema to you Parky?

 

It's not as cut and dried as that bro, after all it was the Catholic priests that fought beside the sandanistas in Nicaragua.

[Happy Face 29]

.....or demand readers spread it's word so much.

 

 

yes it does

 

Which bit?

 

also it has more fucknuts willing to kill themselves reading it as well.

 

 

http://www.iasp.info/pdf/papers/Bertolote.pdf

 

You're so wrong it's unbelievable.

 

Why do you make claims about things you haven't done the most basic reading up on?

 

To be fair HF I think he was probably referring to suicide terrorists which is broadly true (with some exceptions).

 

I can't be bothered to check the source for that bar chart either but I'd stake money on it being flawed regarding relating suicide to religious belief - there's a whole host of factors that could explain why atheists (mainly from developed countries) are recorded as committing suicide more than muslims (off the top of my head would be suicide is a modern 'illness', methodological problems in recording the data, stigma in muslim countries etc).

 

I'll be controversial here and say in general and in its current form, I find Islam to be the most offensive and dangerous religion. CLosely followed by christian nut jobs in the States.

 

I think it's a broader stoke than that. Just based on the rates of suicide in countries according to the major religion therein.

[Happy Face 29]

.....or demand readers spread it's word so much.

 

 

yes it does

 

Which bit?

 

also it has more fucknuts willing to kill themselves reading it as well.

 

 

http://www.iasp.info/pdf/papers/Bertolote.pdf

 

You're so wrong it's unbelievable.

 

Why do you make claims about things you haven't done the most basic reading up on?

 

To be fair HF I think he was probably referring to suicide terrorists which is broadly true (with some exceptions).

 

I can't be bothered to check the source for that bar chart either but I'd stake money on it being flawed regarding relating suicide to religious belief - there's a whole host of factors that could explain why atheists (mainly from developed countries) are recorded as committing suicide more than muslims (off the top of my head would be suicide is a modern 'illness', methodological problems in recording the data, stigma in muslim countries etc).

 

I'll be controversial here and say in general and in its current form, I find Islam to be the most offensive and dangerous religion. CLosely followed by christian nut jobs in the States.

 

I think it's a broader stoke than that. Just based on the rates of suicide in countries according to the major religion therein.

 

 

...and I totally misunderstood your point. Which was far more salient than i gave credit for

[Guest Tuco Ramirez]

I see three Afghans have been shot in a place call Badistan (surely they should rename the country that), protesting about this yank heed the baal. German troops shot 3 dead for chucking rocks, could they not have just chucked them back?

 

This yank bloke surely he has a death wish? This is far worse than what Salman Rushdie did imo.

[Happy Face 29]

I see three Afghans have been shot in a place call Badistan (surely they should rename the country that), protesting about this yank heed the baal. German troops shot 3 dead for chucking rocks, could they not have just chucked them back?

 

This yank bloke surely he has a death wish? This is far worse than what Salman Rushdie did imo.

 

 

Were they not just shot and injured?

[Park Life 71]

As own goals go, this is pretty much getting on your knees and heading it a yard over the line.

[Renton 22007]

I see three Afghans have been shot in a place call Badistan (surely they should rename the country that), protesting about this yank heed the baal. German troops shot 3 dead for chucking rocks, could they not have just chucked them back?

 

This yank bloke surely he has a death wish? This is far worse than what Salman Rushdie did imo.

 

I can't get it into my head how anyone can find writing a book like Satanic verses or burning a Koran particularly offensive. Same goes for cartoons of Mohammed, burning national flags, Jerry Springer the Opera, Southpark etc. Having said this the pastor wants shot to shit because of the predictable reaction his protest would cause. Three people dead now who wouldn't have beeen thanks to that cunt, and presumably a soldier with guilt problems in the future.

[Happy Face 29]

http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?ch=new...=&id=108423

 

He's been planning it for 2 months and no-one's said a peep.

 

At what point did it become a global cause? When he made the sign?

[Happy Face 29]

http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?ch=new...=&id=108423

 

He's been planning it for 2 months and no-one's said a peep.

 

At what point did it become a global cause? When he made the sign?

 

Trying to work out how the story grew by filtering by dates in google. There was nothing after this for a month....before Fox News picked up the story.....

 

http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?ch=new...=&id=108423

 

...and everyone went apeshit.

 

Edited September 10, 2010 by Happy Face

[Guest Tuco Ramirez]

I see three Afghans have been shot in a place call Badistan (surely they should rename the country that), protesting about this yank heed the baal. German troops shot 3 dead for chucking rocks, could they not have just chucked them back?

 

This yank bloke surely he has a death wish? This is far worse than what Salman Rushdie did imo.

 

 

Were they not just shot and injured?

Nar deed.

[Renton 22007]

http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?ch=new...=&id=108423

 

He's been planning it for 2 months and no-one's said a peep.

 

At what point did it become a global cause? When he made the sign?

 

Trying to work out how the story grew by filtering by dates in google. There was nothing after this for a month....before Fox News picked up the story.....

 

http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?ch=new...=&id=108423

 

...and everyone went apeshit.

 

 

Ahhh, the pastor is rabidly anti-gay. The muslims should get their own back by having a gay orgy in front of his church.

[Happy Face 29]

Just realised I posted the wrong link there...

 

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/08/13/fla-p...n-burning-plan/