Iraq War Over

[Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1]

That's besides the point. His main point IE Saddam should have been dealt with properly after he invaded Kuwait is perfectly reasonable.

[Park Life 71]

Leazes will have you believe they've been invading Britain for a while anyway. From all over the corner shop.

 

FYP

[LeazesMag 0]

Its not really related to Iraq but this article on private influence on public policy caused quite a stir.

 

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/08...currentPage=all

 

If your objective is to dominate the world financially, militarily, politically and culturally (making money = freedom) then invading Iraq was a good idea.

 

of course it is, if we don't the muslims will

 

Which was the last muslim country to invade another country?

 

Genuine question.

 

Here's the list of Muslim nations to choose from....

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Musli...ority_countries

 

take over from within mate. It's happening already.

[Happy Face 29]

Its not really related to Iraq but this article on private influence on public policy caused quite a stir.

 

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/08...currentPage=all

 

If your objective is to dominate the world financially, militarily, politically and culturally (making money = freedom) then invading Iraq was a good idea.

 

of course it is, if we don't the muslims will

 

Which was the last muslim country to invade another country?

 

Genuine question.

 

Here's the list of Muslim nations to choose from....

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Musli...ority_countries

 

take over from within mate. It's happening already.

 

Yep.

 

What is it now, 8 muslim MPs?

 

They'll be advocating Sharia law and introducing it soon, they're just being quiet for now.

 

But then you've advocated the re-introduction of the capital and corporal punishment so you'll be well pleased.

[Happy Face 29]

I was taking the piss with the thread title btw, as the AP summed up....

 

Whatever the subject, we should be correct and consistent in our description of what the situation in Iraq is. This guidance summarizes the situation and suggests wording to use and avoid.

 

To begin with, combat in Iraq is not over, and we should not uncritically repeat suggestions that it is, even if they come from senior officials. The situation on the ground in Iraq is no different today than it has been for some months. Iraqi security forces are still fighting Sunni and al-Qaida insurgents. . . . .

 

As for U.S. involvement, it also goes too far to say that the U.S. part in the conflict in Iraq is over. President Obama said Monday night that "the American combat mission in Iraq has ended. Operation Iraqi Freedom is over, and the Iraqi people now have lead responsibility for the security of their country."

 

However, 50,000 American troops remain in country. Our own reporting on the ground confirms that some of these troops, especially some 4,500 special operations forces, continue to be directly engaged in military operations. These troops are accompanying Iraqi soldiers into battle with militant groups and may well fire and be fired on.

 

In addition, although administration spokesmen say we are now at the tail end of American involvement and all troops will be gone by the end of 2011, there is no guarantee that this will be the case.

 

Our stories about Iraq should make clear that U.S. troops remain involved in combat operations alongside Iraqi forces, although U.S. officials say the American combat mission has formally ended. We can also say the United States has ended its major combat role in Iraq, or that it has transferred military authority to Iraqi forces. We can add that beyond U.S. boots on the ground, Iraq is expected to need U.S. air power and other military support for years to control its own air space and to deter possible attack from abroad.

 

http://www.poynter.org/column.asp?id=45&aid=190064

[LeazesMag 0]

Its not really related to Iraq but this article on private influence on public policy caused quite a stir.

 

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/08...currentPage=all

 

If your objective is to dominate the world financially, militarily, politically and culturally (making money = freedom) then invading Iraq was a good idea.

 

of course it is, if we don't the muslims will

 

Which was the last muslim country to invade another country?

 

Genuine question.

 

Here's the list of Muslim nations to choose from....

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Musli...ority_countries

 

take over from within mate. It's happening already.

 

Yep.

 

What is it now, 8 muslim MPs?

 

They'll be advocating Sharia law and introducing it soon, they're just being quiet for now.

 

But then you've advocated the re-introduction of the capital and corporal punishment so you'll be well pleased.

 

they will too. Mohammed.

[Happy Face 29]

Its not really related to Iraq but this article on private influence on public policy caused quite a stir.

 

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/08...currentPage=all

 

If your objective is to dominate the world financially, militarily, politically and culturally (making money = freedom) then invading Iraq was a good idea.

 

of course it is, if we don't the muslims will

 

Which was the last muslim country to invade another country?

 

Genuine question.

 

Here's the list of Muslim nations to choose from....

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Musli...ority_countries

 

take over from within mate. It's happening already.

 

Yep.

 

What is it now, 8 muslim MPs?

 

They'll be advocating Sharia law and introducing it soon, they're just being quiet for now.

 

But then you've advocated the re-introduction of the capital and corporal punishment so you'll be well pleased.

 

they will too. Mohammed.

 

Dunno why you're calling me Mohammed, you like more about sharia law than I do.

[LeazesMag 0]

Its not really related to Iraq but this article on private influence on public policy caused quite a stir.

 

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/08...currentPage=all

 

If your objective is to dominate the world financially, militarily, politically and culturally (making money = freedom) then invading Iraq was a good idea.

 

of course it is, if we don't the muslims will

 

Which was the last muslim country to invade another country?

 

Genuine question.

 

Here's the list of Muslim nations to choose from....

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Musli...ority_countries

 

take over from within mate. It's happening already.

 

Yep.

 

What is it now, 8 muslim MPs?

 

They'll be advocating Sharia law and introducing it soon, they're just being quiet for now.

 

But then you've advocated the re-introduction of the capital and corporal punishment so you'll be well pleased.

 

they will too. Mohammed.

 

Dunno why you're calling me Mohammed, you like more about sharia law than I do.

 

haha, no, I don't want Sharia Law in this country and I'd boot out anybody who did. What about you ?

[Happy Face 29]

Its not really related to Iraq but this article on private influence on public policy caused quite a stir.

 

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/08...currentPage=all

 

If your objective is to dominate the world financially, militarily, politically and culturally (making money = freedom) then invading Iraq was a good idea.

 

of course it is, if we don't the muslims will

 

Which was the last muslim country to invade another country?

 

Genuine question.

 

Here's the list of Muslim nations to choose from....

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Musli...ority_countries

 

take over from within mate. It's happening already.

 

Yep.

 

What is it now, 8 muslim MPs?

 

They'll be advocating Sharia law and introducing it soon, they're just being quiet for now.

 

But then you've advocated the re-introduction of the capital and corporal punishment so you'll be well pleased.

 

they will too. Mohammed.

 

Dunno why you're calling me Mohammed, you like more about sharia law than I do.

 

haha, no, I don't want Sharia Law in this country and I'd boot out anybody who did. What about you ?

 

I don't want Sharia law either, I think it's got some repulsive ideas.

 

Nor do I want to change British law to restrict freedom of speech, or to deport anyone for expressing their view.

 

Sharia law restricts freedom of speech of course, such as criticism of Mohammad. This is another area where your preference is for the sharia model as opposed to the British one.

Edited September 3, 2010 by Happy Face

[LeazesMag 0]

Its not really related to Iraq but this article on private influence on public policy caused quite a stir.

 

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/08...currentPage=all

 

If your objective is to dominate the world financially, militarily, politically and culturally (making money = freedom) then invading Iraq was a good idea.

 

of course it is, if we don't the muslims will

 

Which was the last muslim country to invade another country?

 

Genuine question.

 

Here's the list of Muslim nations to choose from....

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Musli...ority_countries

 

take over from within mate. It's happening already.

 

Yep.

 

What is it now, 8 muslim MPs?

 

They'll be advocating Sharia law and introducing it soon, they're just being quiet for now.

 

But then you've advocated the re-introduction of the capital and corporal punishment so you'll be well pleased.

 

they will too. Mohammed.

 

Dunno why you're calling me Mohammed, you like more about sharia law than I do.

 

haha, no, I don't want Sharia Law in this country and I'd boot out anybody who did. What about you ?

 

I don't want Sharia law either, I think it's got some repulsive ideas.

 

Nor do I want to change British law to restrict freedom of speech, or to deport anyone for expressing their view.

 

Sharia law restricts freedom of speech of course, such as criticism of Mohammad. This is another area where your preference is for the sharia model as opposed to the British one.

 

Well, I don't like foreigners or anti-British wankers telling me what I can and can't say, and heckling British troops for doing what they signed up to do. That may sit easy with you, but if it does, then you should join them, and also go and live somewhere suitably anti-British with them that fits with your views.

 

That would, unfortunately, be somewhere where Sharia Law actually exists

[Happy Face 29]

Its not really related to Iraq but this article on private influence on public policy caused quite a stir.

 

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/08...currentPage=all

 

If your objective is to dominate the world financially, militarily, politically and culturally (making money = freedom) then invading Iraq was a good idea.

 

of course it is, if we don't the muslims will

 

Which was the last muslim country to invade another country?

 

Genuine question.

 

Here's the list of Muslim nations to choose from....

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Musli...ority_countries

 

take over from within mate. It's happening already.

 

Yep.

 

What is it now, 8 muslim MPs?

 

They'll be advocating Sharia law and introducing it soon, they're just being quiet for now.

 

But then you've advocated the re-introduction of the capital and corporal punishment so you'll be well pleased.

 

they will too. Mohammed.

 

Dunno why you're calling me Mohammed, you like more about sharia law than I do.

 

haha, no, I don't want Sharia Law in this country and I'd boot out anybody who did. What about you ?

 

I don't want Sharia law either, I think it's got some repulsive ideas.

 

Nor do I want to change British law to restrict freedom of speech, or to deport anyone for expressing their view.

 

Sharia law restricts freedom of speech of course, such as criticism of Mohammad. This is another area where your preference is for the sharia model as opposed to the British one.

 

Well, I don't like foreigners or anti-British wankers telling me what I can and can't say, and heckling British troops for doing what they signed up to do. That may sit easy with you, but if it does, then you should join them, and also go and live somewhere suitably anti-British with them that fits with your views.

 

That would, unfortunately, be somewhere where Sharia Law actually exists

 

Willfully missing the point everyone else can see clearly.

 

I'm not anti-British. I'm staunchly pro-Britain. I love everything about this country. You're the one constantly complaining about how it is, the way it's going and the protections the law provides everyone. Least patriotic bloke I've ever spoken to in all honesty.

Edited September 3, 2010 by Happy Face

[LeazesMag 0]

Its not really related to Iraq but this article on private influence on public policy caused quite a stir.

 

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/08...currentPage=all

 

If your objective is to dominate the world financially, militarily, politically and culturally (making money = freedom) then invading Iraq was a good idea.

 

of course it is, if we don't the muslims will

 

Which was the last muslim country to invade another country?

 

Genuine question.

 

Here's the list of Muslim nations to choose from....

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Musli...ority_countries

 

take over from within mate. It's happening already.

 

Yep.

 

What is it now, 8 muslim MPs?

 

They'll be advocating Sharia law and introducing it soon, they're just being quiet for now.

 

But then you've advocated the re-introduction of the capital and corporal punishment so you'll be well pleased.

 

they will too. Mohammed.

 

Dunno why you're calling me Mohammed, you like more about sharia law than I do.

 

haha, no, I don't want Sharia Law in this country and I'd boot out anybody who did. What about you ?

 

I don't want Sharia law either, I think it's got some repulsive ideas.

 

Nor do I want to change British law to restrict freedom of speech, or to deport anyone for expressing their view.

 

Sharia law restricts freedom of speech of course, such as criticism of Mohammad. This is another area where your preference is for the sharia model as opposed to the British one.

 

Well, I don't like foreigners or anti-British wankers telling me what I can and can't say, and heckling British troops for doing what they signed up to do. That may sit easy with you, but if it does, then you should join them, and also go and live somewhere suitably anti-British with them that fits with your views.

 

That would, unfortunately, be somewhere where Sharia Law actually exists

 

Willfully missing the point everyone else can see clearly.

 

I'm not anti-British. I'm staunchly pro-Britain. I love everything about this country. You're the one constantly complaining about how it is, the way it's going and the protections the law provides everyone. Least patriotic bloke I've ever spoken to in all honesty.

 

haha. You know nothing, absolutely nothing about me to make such a statement.

 

You are encouraging the growth of anti-British values, and you have absolutely zero awareness of security of the country. You defend people standing on the street of Britain heckling our forces for upholding the security of Britain and expressing an allegiance which is anti-British, and say that I am lacking in patriotism ?

 

Give yourself a shake man.

[Happy Face 29]

Its not really related to Iraq but this article on private influence on public policy caused quite a stir.

 

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/08...currentPage=all

 

If your objective is to dominate the world financially, militarily, politically and culturally (making money = freedom) then invading Iraq was a good idea.

 

of course it is, if we don't the muslims will

 

Which was the last muslim country to invade another country?

 

Genuine question.

 

Here's the list of Muslim nations to choose from....

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Musli...ority_countries

 

take over from within mate. It's happening already.

 

Yep.

 

What is it now, 8 muslim MPs?

 

They'll be advocating Sharia law and introducing it soon, they're just being quiet for now.

 

But then you've advocated the re-introduction of the capital and corporal punishment so you'll be well pleased.

 

they will too. Mohammed.

 

Dunno why you're calling me Mohammed, you like more about sharia law than I do.

 

haha, no, I don't want Sharia Law in this country and I'd boot out anybody who did. What about you ?

 

I don't want Sharia law either, I think it's got some repulsive ideas.

 

Nor do I want to change British law to restrict freedom of speech, or to deport anyone for expressing their view.

 

Sharia law restricts freedom of speech of course, such as criticism of Mohammad. This is another area where your preference is for the sharia model as opposed to the British one.

 

Well, I don't like foreigners or anti-British wankers telling me what I can and can't say, and heckling British troops for doing what they signed up to do. That may sit easy with you, but if it does, then you should join them, and also go and live somewhere suitably anti-British with them that fits with your views.

 

That would, unfortunately, be somewhere where Sharia Law actually exists

 

Willfully missing the point everyone else can see clearly.

 

I'm not anti-British. I'm staunchly pro-Britain. I love everything about this country. You're the one constantly complaining about how it is, the way it's going and the protections the law provides everyone. Least patriotic bloke I've ever spoken to in all honesty.

 

haha. You know nothing, absolutely nothing about me to make such a statement.

 

Other than 4 or 5 years of your patter on here.

 

You are encouraging the growth of anti-British values,

 

Quote me one anti British statement I've ever made.

 

and you have absolutely zero awareness of security of the country.

 

My knowledge is pitiful, but I keep an open mind and I'm always happy to learn. Nothing you say on the subject holds any water whatsoever though.

 

You defend people standing on the street of Britain heckling our forces for upholding the security of Britain

 

No I don't

 

and expressing an allegiance which is anti-British, and say that I am lacking in patriotism ?

 

Criticising a British government is not anti-British.

 

Give yourself a shake man.

 

I had a wank this morning.

[LeazesMag 0]

Its not really related to Iraq but this article on private influence on public policy caused quite a stir.

 

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/08...currentPage=all

 

If your objective is to dominate the world financially, militarily, politically and culturally (making money = freedom) then invading Iraq was a good idea.

 

of course it is, if we don't the muslims will

 

Which was the last muslim country to invade another country?

 

Genuine question.

 

Here's the list of Muslim nations to choose from....

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Musli...ority_countries

 

take over from within mate. It's happening already.

 

Yep.

 

What is it now, 8 muslim MPs?

 

They'll be advocating Sharia law and introducing it soon, they're just being quiet for now.

 

But then you've advocated the re-introduction of the capital and corporal punishment so you'll be well pleased.

 

they will too. Mohammed.

 

Dunno why you're calling me Mohammed, you like more about sharia law than I do.

 

haha, no, I don't want Sharia Law in this country and I'd boot out anybody who did. What about you ?

 

I don't want Sharia law either, I think it's got some repulsive ideas.

 

Nor do I want to change British law to restrict freedom of speech, or to deport anyone for expressing their view.

 

Sharia law restricts freedom of speech of course, such as criticism of Mohammad. This is another area where your preference is for the sharia model as opposed to the British one.

 

Well, I don't like foreigners or anti-British wankers telling me what I can and can't say, and heckling British troops for doing what they signed up to do. That may sit easy with you, but if it does, then you should join them, and also go and live somewhere suitably anti-British with them that fits with your views.

 

That would, unfortunately, be somewhere where Sharia Law actually exists

 

Willfully missing the point everyone else can see clearly.

 

I'm not anti-British. I'm staunchly pro-Britain. I love everything about this country. You're the one constantly complaining about how it is, the way it's going and the protections the law provides everyone. Least patriotic bloke I've ever spoken to in all honesty.

 

haha. You know nothing, absolutely nothing about me to make such a statement.

 

Other than 4 or 5 years of your patter on here.

 

You are encouraging the growth of anti-British values,

 

Quote me one anti British statement I've ever made.

 

and you have absolutely zero awareness of security of the country.

 

My knowledge is pitiful, but I keep an open mind and I'm always happy to learn. Nothing you say on the subject holds any water whatsoever though.

 

You defend people standing on the street of Britain heckling our forces for upholding the security of Britain

 

No I don't

 

and expressing an allegiance which is anti-British, and say that I am lacking in patriotism ?

 

Criticising a British government is not anti-British.

 

Give yourself a shake man.

 

I had a wank this morning.

 

unfortunately for you, HF, I am pro-British, and value freedom of speech so much I want it to stay that way. You can call a teddy bear Jesus anytime you like, you won't get death threats for doing it.

 

And I will defend those who are upholding the security of Britain, in my book that makes me patriotic, unlike those who's allegiance lies elsewhere. Basically, if your allegiance belongs in another country with another culture, then fuck off there where you fit in.

[Happy Face 29]

unfortunately for you, HF, I am pro-British, and value freedom of speech so much I want it to stay that way. You can call a teddy bear Jesus anytime you like, you won't get death threats for doing it.

 

And I will defend those who are upholding the security of Britain, in my book that makes me patriotic, unlike those who's allegiance lies elsewhere. Basically, if your allegiance belongs in another country with another culture, then fuck off there where you fit in.

 

 

Why would that be unfortunate for me?

 

The incongruity of saying " value freedom of speech so much I want it to stay that way" just a few posts after saying you'd boot out anyone expressing a view you don't approve of is typical Leazes.

 

Anyway, the match has kicked off.

 

Come on England. Great start.

[LeazesMag 0]

unfortunately for you, HF, I am pro-British, and value freedom of speech so much I want it to stay that way. You can call a teddy bear Jesus anytime you like, you won't get death threats for doing it.

 

And I will defend those who are upholding the security of Britain, in my book that makes me patriotic, unlike those who's allegiance lies elsewhere. Basically, if your allegiance belongs in another country with another culture, then fuck off there where you fit in.

 

 

Why would that be unfortunate for me?

 

The incongruity of saying " value freedom of speech so much I want it to stay that way" just a few posts after saying you'd boot out anyone expressing a view you don't approve of is typical Leazes.

 

Anyway, the match has kicked off.

 

Come on England. Great start.

 

there is a big, big difference between "expressing a view I don't approve of" and having anti-British values to the extent of wishing death on those defending your freedom. Typical left wing loonie that just can't click onto this. I bet you're so ashamed we won 2 world wars to remain patriotic for Britain.

[Rob W 0]

unfortunately for you, HF, I am pro-British, and value freedom of speech so much I want it to stay that way. You can call a teddy bear Jesus anytime you like, you won't get death threats for doing it.

 

And I will defend those who are upholding the security of Britain, in my book that makes me patriotic, unlike those who's allegiance lies elsewhere. Basically, if your allegiance belongs in another country with another culture, then fuck off there where you fit in.

 

 

Why would that be unfortunate for me?

 

The incongruity of saying " value freedom of speech so much I want it to stay that way" just a few posts after saying you'd boot out anyone expressing a view you don't approve of is typical Leazes.

 

Anyway, the match has kicked off.

 

Come on England. Great start.

 

there is a big, big difference between "expressing a view I don't approve of" and having anti-British values to the extent of wishing death on those defending your freedom. Typical left wing loonie that just can't click onto this. I bet you're so ashamed we won 2 world wars to remain patriotic for Britain.

 

 

the trouble is if you think that "those defending our freedom" are in fact aiding & abetting war crimes in other countries what do you do?

 

I think the world is a better place without Saddam and the Taleban but I'm not sure its worth our army dying there

[LeazesMag 0]

unfortunately for you, HF, I am pro-British, and value freedom of speech so much I want it to stay that way. You can call a teddy bear Jesus anytime you like, you won't get death threats for doing it.

 

And I will defend those who are upholding the security of Britain, in my book that makes me patriotic, unlike those who's allegiance lies elsewhere. Basically, if your allegiance belongs in another country with another culture, then fuck off there where you fit in.

 

 

Why would that be unfortunate for me?

 

The incongruity of saying " value freedom of speech so much I want it to stay that way" just a few posts after saying you'd boot out anyone expressing a view you don't approve of is typical Leazes.

 

Anyway, the match has kicked off.

 

Come on England. Great start.

 

there is a big, big difference between "expressing a view I don't approve of" and having anti-British values to the extent of wishing death on those defending your freedom. Typical left wing loonie that just can't click onto this. I bet you're so ashamed we won 2 world wars to remain patriotic for Britain.

 

 

the trouble is if you think that "those defending our freedom" are in fact aiding & abetting war crimes in other countries what do you do?

 

I think the world is a better place without Saddam and the Taleban but I'm not sure its worth our army dying there

 

I take your point, although I don't necessarily think they are aiding and abetting war crimes. My answer is to go and put on a uniform and have the balls to fight them in the open, instead of knowing they can't retaliate back. Fuckin cowards.

 

I agree the world is better without Saddam, and would be better without some others like him too.

[Rob W 0]

the list is long - most of Africa & the Mid East for a start

 

but do we want to become the World's Copper?

[LeazesMag 0]

the list is long - most of Africa & the Mid East for a start

 

but do we want to become the World's Copper?

 

I didn't say that. I said that if they choose to take a stand against our forces, then they should have the balls to fight them like men and back their allegiance. Or fuck off and shut up.

[Guest alex]

Freedom of speech comes at a heavy cost it would seem

[Rob W 0]

" to fight them like men "

 

sounds like you are thinking of Spartacus ...............

[LeazesMag 0]

" to fight them like men "

 

sounds like you are thinking of Spartacus ...............

 

I see you have no constuctive reply to that then.

 

Fight them like men, fight for their beliefs and their allegiance if it means so much to them, instead of behaving like the cowardly fucks they are.

Edited September 7, 2010 by LeazesMag

[Happy Face 29]

" to fight them like men "

 

sounds like you are thinking of Spartacus ...............

 

I see you have no constuctive reply to that then.

 

Fight them like men, fight for their beliefs and their allegiance if it means so much to them, instead of behaving like the cowardly fucks they are.

 

Like the US/British "fight like men" with their unmanned, computer controlled drone attacks on citizens and rockets launched from 20 miles off the coast?

 

LOL & that.

[Guest alex]

The notion of fair play in war is about as daft as the notion people protesting against the war should go and fight in it tbh.