Andy Carroll and Jose Enrique

[LeazesMag 0]

I think I know what's happened with Leazes. He's lost all sense of realism in regards of money.

 

He doesn't understand that Shepherd didn't spend money, he spent the club's money. Then accuses Ashley for spending the club's money on paying off the club's debt that Shepherd left. As opposed to doing what, Leazes? Getting into more debt? Can you elaborate for me what other options he had, without suggesting that he personally bankroll it, because Shepherd never did that.

 

Can you explain why the crowds have gone down, then tell us exactly how to recover the lost revenue to spend in the first place ?

 

Then tell us how many of the successful clubs aren't in debt ? As you appear to think success can be obtained with 1m quid signings or behaving like a nursery club to ManU by loaning their players.

 

The crowds went down because the dontgiveashit overpaid big name wankers that Shepherd liked to sign got us relegated.

 

the crowds went up in the first instance because the club bought overpaid big name wankers that challenged for the title and played in europe regularly. The crowds were still coming to the club when the club went down, minus the overpaid big name wankers the vast majority of who were sold by your man Ashley and replaced by cheaper inferior players.

 

If we're answering questions with questions, can you tell me which top players have their debt because of borrowing for transfers? May I also point out that Jose Enrique, the gem as you call him, was £6m, Colo was £10m, Barton £5m, Smith £6m etc, all signed when Ashley came in Kind of pours cold water onto that argument doesn't it

 

Would you rather big money was still being spent and the clubs finances be allowed to sprial out of control or do you agree that to spend sensibly and balance the books, even if it means taking a step backwards to take a step forwards, is likely to put us in a healthier position to push for top spots in the future?

 

You need to spend money to be successful in football. Fact. The bit in bold, is you living in fairyland I'm afraid, if you think your man has serious ambitions for this football club other than seeing it as a way to make money and an outlet for Sports Direct.

 

 

And at what point, after dropping out of the top 4, spending £50m+ of future income and failing to get back into the top 4, do you step back and realise that you've just spent a lot of money achieved nothing. Do you think we're a big enough club to be able to shrug off £50m and continue to spend. At what point does that spending become reckless? Or because we have a big ground does that mean we can spend unlimited money and nobody ever has to worry about it?

 

what do you think they should have done with the 50m quid? Put it in the bank and looked at it ?

 

 

Pathetic question to respond with because they never had £50m they borrowed it, care to actually answer a question at some point today instead of attempting to counter it with another question?

 

Pathetic of you to not appreciate the best directors we have had at the club for at least 50 years. There is always ways to make money. I repeat. To be successful you need to spend money. Everybody is in debt. Why would you rather we fought relegation battles and lose our best players than qualify for europe ?

 

Shame you are too young to realise what a state this club was in when the Halls and Shepherd saved it, and even bigger shame you are too up your own arse to listen to somebody who knows better than you.

 

I ask where the money would come from and that's your fucking answer? Holy fucking shit leazes. You're a laughing stock. Why don't you buy the club if there's always ways to make money? Go make some! You can appoint Shepherd as your chairman Come on, expand on this and entertain us all.

 

Listen and learn lad. How old are you ? I bet most of them think its you thats talking utter shit by the way

 

Anyway, if its so easy running a football club that qualifies for europe regularly, which is what you clearly think, then why don't YOU do it

 

because I don't have the money to buy one?

 

Yes but if Shepherd was so shit, then surely you could do better ? How come Mikey baby isn't doing any better yet, after all he's 3 years into his "5 year plan"

[Guest]

I think I know what's happened with Leazes. He's lost all sense of realism in regards of money.

 

He doesn't understand that Shepherd didn't spend money, he spent the club's money. Then accuses Ashley for spending the club's money on paying off the club's debt that Shepherd left. As opposed to doing what, Leazes? Getting into more debt? Can you elaborate for me what other options he had, without suggesting that he personally bankroll it, because Shepherd never did that.

 

Can you explain why the crowds have gone down, then tell us exactly how to recover the lost revenue to spend in the first place ?

 

Then tell us how many of the successful clubs aren't in debt ? As you appear to think success can be obtained with 1m quid signings or behaving like a nursery club to ManU by loaning their players.

 

The crowds went down because the dontgiveashit overpaid big name wankers that Shepherd liked to sign got us relegated.

 

the crowds went up in the first instance because the club bought overpaid big name wankers that challenged for the title and played in europe regularly. The crowds were still coming to the club when the club went down, minus the overpaid big name wankers the vast majority of who were sold by your man Ashley and replaced by cheaper inferior players.

 

If we're answering questions with questions, can you tell me which top players have their debt because of borrowing for transfers? May I also point out that Jose Enrique, the gem as you call him, was £6m, Colo was £10m, Barton £5m, Smith £6m etc, all signed when Ashley came in Kind of pours cold water onto that argument doesn't it

 

Would you rather big money was still being spent and the clubs finances be allowed to sprial out of control or do you agree that to spend sensibly and balance the books, even if it means taking a step backwards to take a step forwards, is likely to put us in a healthier position to push for top spots in the future?

 

You need to spend money to be successful in football. Fact. The bit in bold, is you living in fairyland I'm afraid, if you think your man has serious ambitions for this football club other than seeing it as a way to make money and an outlet for Sports Direct.

 

 

And at what point, after dropping out of the top 4, spending £50m+ of future income and failing to get back into the top 4, do you step back and realise that you've just spent a lot of money achieved nothing. Do you think we're a big enough club to be able to shrug off £50m and continue to spend. At what point does that spending become reckless? Or because we have a big ground does that mean we can spend unlimited money and nobody ever has to worry about it?

 

what do you think they should have done with the 50m quid? Put it in the bank and looked at it ?

 

 

Pathetic question to respond with because they never had £50m they borrowed it, care to actually answer a question at some point today instead of attempting to counter it with another question?

 

Pathetic of you to not appreciate the best directors we have had at the club for at least 50 years. There is always ways to make money. I repeat. To be successful you need to spend money. Everybody is in debt. Why would you rather we fought relegation battles and lose our best players than qualify for europe ?

 

Shame you are too young to realise what a state this club was in when the Halls and Shepherd saved it, and even bigger shame you are too up your own arse to listen to somebody who knows better than you.

 

I ask where the money would come from and that's your fucking answer? Holy fucking shit leazes. You're a laughing stock. Why don't you buy the club if there's always ways to make money? Go make some! You can appoint Shepherd as your chairman Come on, expand on this and entertain us all.

 

Listen and learn lad. How old are you ? I bet most of them think its you thats talking utter shit by the way

 

Anyway, if its so easy running a football club that qualifies for europe regularly, which is what you clearly think, then why don't YOU do it

 

because I don't have the money to buy one?

 

Yes but if Shepherd was so shit, then surely you could do better ? How come Mikey baby isn't doing any better yet, after all he's 3 years into his "5 year plan"

 

 

yes I could, but that doesn't make me be able to afford to buy a football club. How stupid are you?

[Asprilla 96]

I can't believe anyone can have gone through the last couple of years of recession and still think you can borrow money indefinitely.

[Jusoda Kid 1]

Getting tiresome this bickering mind, takes a fucking eternity to read the threads due to all the lengthy quotes.

[Guest]

Getting tiresome this bickering mind, takes a fucking eternity to read the threads due to all the lengthy quotes.

 

 

I agree like. You can't have a reasonable debate with him. Answering questions with questions automatically makes it confrontational and into a bickering match. He does it when he can't actually answer the question that's being asked. Pathetic, he wants banning if you ask me.

[LeazesMag 0]

Getting tiresome this bickering mind, takes a fucking eternity to read the threads due to all the lengthy quotes.

 

 

I agree like. You can't have a reasonable debate with him. Answering questions with questions automatically makes it confrontational and into a bickering match. He does it when he can't actually answer the question that's being asked. Pathetic, he wants banning if you ask me.

 

most people realise I contribute knowledge and wisdom to here.

 

I don't have the money either, and I don't own a football club, so I don't know where the money comes from either. How stupid a question is that too ? One thing I can say though, is if the revenue goes down, then he is doing something badly wrong. So can you tell us how the Halls and Shepherd kept revenue up while your man is reversing the situation ?

[Asprilla 96]

most people realise I contribute knowledge and wisdom to here.

[Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0]

most people realise I contribute knowledge and wisdom to here.

Don't forget modesty and humility Leazes.

[LeazesMag 0]

most people realise I contribute knowledge and wisdom to here.

Don't forget modesty and humility Leazes.

 

[peasepud 59]

I'll ask again

 

Do you think we're a big enough club to be able to shrug off £50m and continue to spend? At what point does that spending become reckless? Or because we have a big ground does that mean we can spend unlimited money and nobody ever has to worry about it? If we were to continue spending, where would the money come from?

 

Back in the day, we used to have well paying sponsors (notice how we dont even have a match day sponsor anymore?)

 

Back in the day we pushed out into the Asian market to get some of those far away fans to spend their cash and buy Toon tops not ManUre ones.

 

Back in the day we would supplement the income from the Premiership with millions due to some lucrative thing called the Champions league.

 

Back in the day we wouldnt sell our best players unless the bid was so ludicrous it would be daft not to take it, even then we'd stick in a sell on clause just in case

 

Back in the day we would buy proper players, players with a reputation behind them and within hours of signing them we'd run out of new shirts and the letters that made up their names. A chunk of their massive fee already repaid in merchandising sales.

 

Back in the day we werent looking to erect huge fuck off charver signs selling off gving away our heritage to some scummy company.

 

Back in the day though we werent a laughing stock we were a football club.

[LeazesMag 0]

I'll ask again

 

Do you think we're a big enough club to be able to shrug off £50m and continue to spend? At what point does that spending become reckless? Or because we have a big ground does that mean we can spend unlimited money and nobody ever has to worry about it? If we were to continue spending, where would the money come from?

 

Back in the day, we used to have well paying sponsors (notice how we dont even have a match day sponsor anymore?)

 

Back in the day we pushed out into the Asian market to get some of those far away fans to spend their cash and buy Toon tops not ManUre ones.

 

Back in the day we would supplement the income from the Premiership with millions due to some lucrative thing called the Champions league.

 

Back in the day we wouldnt sell our best players unless the bid was so ludicrous it would be daft not to take it, even then we'd stick in a sell on clause just in case

 

Back in the day we would buy proper players, players with a reputation behind them and within hours of signing them we'd run out of new shirts and the letters that made up their names. A chunk of their massive fee already repaid in merchandising sales.

 

Back in the day we werent looking to erect huge fuck off charver signs selling off gving away our heritage to some scummy company.

 

Back in the day though we werent a laughing stock we were a football club.

 

yep.

 

I knew, or thought, you or someone would explain all of this to him and I couldn't be bothered to do it again.

 

He probably won't understand though or stick to his illogical, small time and short-term thinking.

[Guest]

I'll ask again

 

Do you think we're a big enough club to be able to shrug off £50m and continue to spend? At what point does that spending become reckless? Or because we have a big ground does that mean we can spend unlimited money and nobody ever has to worry about it? If we were to continue spending, where would the money come from?

 

Back in the day, we used to have well paying sponsors (notice how we dont even have a match day sponsor anymore?)

 

Back in the day we pushed out into the Asian market to get some of those far away fans to spend their cash and buy Toon tops not ManUre ones.

 

Back in the day we would supplement the income from the Premiership with millions due to some lucrative thing called the Champions league.

 

Back in the day we wouldnt sell our best players unless the bid was so ludicrous it would be daft not to take it, even then we'd stick in a sell on clause just in case

 

Back in the day we would buy proper players, players with a reputation behind them and within hours of signing them we'd run out of new shirts and the letters that made up their names. A chunk of their massive fee already repaid in merchandising sales.

 

Back in the day we werent looking to erect huge fuck off charver signs selling off gving away our heritage to some scummy company.

 

Back in the day though we werent a laughing stock we were a football club.

 

Aye, players fighting on the pitch, chairmen calling our record signing mary poppins and wor lasses dogs, telling bellers that shearers gonna chin him. We weren't a laughing stock at all under them were we. And you refer to the champions league, presumably the most lucrative of all the things you list, neglecting the fact that we dropped out of it under Shepherd, who realised we needed it to be sustainable, so blew a shit load of borrowed cash trying, and failing to get back into it. If you think a few shirts and a matchday sponsor cushions the hit of a wasted £50m you're as deluded as Leazes mate.

[Guest]

Getting tiresome this bickering mind, takes a fucking eternity to read the threads due to all the lengthy quotes.

 

 

I agree like. You can't have a reasonable debate with him. Answering questions with questions automatically makes it confrontational and into a bickering match. He does it when he can't actually answer the question that's being asked. Pathetic, he wants banning if you ask me.

 

most people realise I contribute knowledge and wisdom to here.

 

I don't have the money either, and I don't own a football club, so I don't know where the money comes from either. How stupid a question is that too ? One thing I can say though, is if the revenue goes down, then he is doing something badly wrong. So can you tell us how the Halls and Shepherd kept revenue up while your man is reversing the situation ?

 

Revenue was up because they used borrowed cash to coax in supporters like yourself with trophy signings. You don't know where the money comes from? So you're ignorant on the subject but criticising them for not spending it? Wow.

[peasepud 59]

Aye, players fighting on the pitch, chairmen calling our record signing mary poppins and wor lasses dogs, telling bellers that shearers gonna chin him. We weren\'t a laughing stock at all under them were we. And you refer to the champions league, presumably the most lucrative of all the things you list, neglecting the fact that we dropped out of it under Shepherd, who realised we needed it to be sustainable, so blew a shit load of borrowed cash trying, and failing to get back into it. If you think a few shirts and a matchday sponsor cushions the hit of a wasted £50m you\'re as deluded as Leazes mate.

 

No you're right, nowadays we have the chairman stating they'll twat the manager before replacing him with an old has been who just happens to drink with the owner. Nowadays we simply prefer to drop a league and take parachute payments rather than attempt to compete. Nowadyas we simply borrow money to repay the owner for his purchase so thats not a problem eh?

 

I do however like the way you slate Shepherd for us dropping out of a competition he got us into in the first place.

[Guest]

Aye, players fighting on the pitch, chairmen calling our record signing mary poppins and wor lasses dogs, telling bellers that shearers gonna chin him. We weren\'t a laughing stock at all under them were we. And you refer to the champions league, presumably the most lucrative of all the things you list, neglecting the fact that we dropped out of it under Shepherd, who realised we needed it to be sustainable, so blew a shit load of borrowed cash trying, and failing to get back into it. If you think a few shirts and a matchday sponsor cushions the hit of a wasted £50m you\'re as deluded as Leazes mate.

 

No you're right, nowadays we have the chairman stating they'll twat the manager before replacing him with an old has been who just happens to drink with the owner. Nowadays we simply prefer to drop a league and take parachute payments rather than attempt to compete. Nowadyas we simply borrow money to repay the owner for his purchase so thats not a problem eh?

 

I do however like the way you slate Shepherd for us dropping out of a competition he got us into in the first place.

 

 

Where did I slate him for dropping out of it, I'm simply stating that him blowing £50m trying to get back into it seriously hinders Ashley's ability to be able to use the clubs finances to show 'ambition'. Are you suggesting that it was his preference to be relegated?

 

So Ashley fucked up royally in his first couple of years as owner where the whole Keegan thing was concerned. But at the end of the day, were his intentions bad? Sure, he was backing Wise and not Keegan, but he was giving Wise a fair wedge of cash to spend. Poor decisions, but not bad intentions at the time imo.

 

Of course the intentions of Shepherd were pretty clear, he stated them in a Spanish brothel. To fleece us, with his £5 shirts and brown ale, and fleece the club, through the clubs questionable purchase of a warehouse. All seems a little bit more dubious than Ashley wanting money back that he's actually invested like, which many would say he's entitled to.

[Kevin 1]

Getting tiresome this bickering mind, takes a fucking eternity to read the threads due to all the lengthy quotes.

 

 

I agree like. You can't have a reasonable debate with him. Answering questions with questions automatically makes it confrontational and into a bickering match. He does it when he can't actually answer the question that's being asked. Pathetic, he wants banning if you ask me.

 

Hey, I got a solution, why don't you go fuck yourself

[Gejon 2]

Oh yeah this topic...

[luckyluke 2]

Is there any need for this to carry on in more than one thread?

[Kevin 1]

Is there any need for this to carry on in more than one thread?

 

They know exactly what they're doing. Until the mods pull there fucking nappy's up and sprout some balls to reban that fuck face thompers this is going to keep happening.

[LeazesMag 0]

Is there any need for this to carry on in more than one thread?

 

They know exactly what they're doing. Until the mods pull there fucking nappy's up and sprout some balls to reban that fuck face thompers this is going to keep happening.

 

no it isn't. I've stated my case in the reply to mancmag in the other thread, and my offer of a bet is on the table. I'm not going to respond to him about this anymore now.

[Gejon 2]

Is there any need for this to carry on in more than one thread?

 

They know exactly what they're doing. Until the mods pull there fucking nappy's up and sprout some balls to reban that fuck face thompers this is going to keep happening.

 

I think you should count yourself lucky that you can still post after making a racist comment tbh.

[Kevin 1]

Is there any need for this to carry on in more than one thread?

 

They know exactly what they're doing. Until the mods pull there fucking nappy's up and sprout some balls to reban that fuck face thompers this is going to keep happening.

 

no it isn't. I've stated my case in the reply to mancmag in the other thread, and my offer of a bet is on the table. I'm not going to respond to him about this anymore now.

 

You're a bigger man than most, kudos.

 

Is there any need for this to carry on in more than one thread?

 

They know exactly what they're doing. Until the mods pull there fucking nappy's up and sprout some balls to reban that fuck face thompers this is going to keep happening.

 

I think you should count yourself lucky that you can still post after making a racist comment tbh.

 

Go suck a bible

[LeazesMag 0]

Is there any need for this to carry on in more than one thread?

 

They know exactly what they're doing. Until the mods pull there fucking nappy's up and sprout some balls to reban that fuck face thompers this is going to keep happening.

 

I think you should count yourself lucky that you can still post after making a racist comment tbh.

 

give over man

[Gejon 2]

Sorry PC gone mad and all that.

[Monroe Transfer 0]

Is there any need for this to carry on in more than one thread?

 

They know exactly what they're doing. Until the mods pull there fucking nappy's up and sprout some balls to reban that fuck face thompers this is going to keep happening.

If the mods "pulled their fucking nappies up and sprouted some balls", you wouldn't be posting here.